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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

LOAD "*",8,1 to play Beach Head on C64

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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

TotalLossBrain posted:

Who remembers the dreaded sound of a failing floppy disk?

It was only a few months ago I was trying to install winXP on old motherboards/systems with a SATA hdd.
Either the only fdd I had was bad, or every old floppy I had drivers on was bad. Either way, nothing but toasted Floppies came out of that drive :(
Ended up finding a IDE drive just to install XP and test systems.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk

Cracked_Gear
Nov 4, 2013

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

This is a weird thing to say, but one of the reasons I hate the move to SD is that the cards are so goddamn versatile. Leave one in a machine while a transfer is running and get up to take a piss? That thing is gone, formatted, and already in someone's tablet, audio player, laptop, etc. I don't think I've ever had a problem with someone stealing my tapes while working video production, but SD cards go missing all the goddamn time.

Micro SD is even worse. Drop one on the floor and in five seconds it's gone. I wonder how many micro SD cards have been sucked up by vacuum cleaners, are resting in ventilation ductwork or hiding in couches?

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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Kinda sounds like the C64 version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV6jZ-wDU-U

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Phanatic posted:



Two words: Trumpet. Winsock.

AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


Seriously, though. I kind of know what he means. I fondly look back on those days and remember them as being better. Partly because you had to work a little more to do anything, so you appreciated the rewards more.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Phanatic posted:

"No fancy-pants everything-is-integrated type stuff" sometimes meant that each game came with its own custom memory manager. Which almost certainly didn't want to play nice with anything else you wanted to do with your PC.

Wasn't there a game that crashed every time on shutdown with an error message from its memory manager, and because the developers couldn't figure out how to fix it they just patched the binary so that the message said "Thank you for playing"?

e: Wing Commander

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Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXQpJgZklk

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007


that is catchy as heck

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Even worse than failing floppies: Having to adjust the read head on your Commodore 1530 Datasette before it would load a program without errors. :suicide:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
My friend's C-64 had a balky SCSI drive that would give you read errors if you made any noises or vibrations while it loaded from the floppy. For a game like Ultima 4, that meant about 5 minutes of introspective study of the included cloth map.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Imagined posted:

There won't ever be again. In fact, this is quite possibly the last generation of traditional gaming consoles as we've known them.

The closest thing now will be the evolution of things like the Occulus Rift which have big room for improvement.

I still remember the mall nearby having some old VR game in the arcade in the 90s - graphics that were blocky, a big platform to stand in with a helmet, and the choppy gameplay. Now just shy of 20 years later we have all that with better realism, smaller and more powerful hardware, and more game variety. And compared to then, you don't have to take out a second mortgage to afford it - poo poo blows my mind.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Ozz81 posted:

I still remember the mall nearby having some old VR game in the arcade in the 90s - graphics that were blocky, a big platform to stand in with a helmet, and the choppy gameplay. Now just shy of 20 years later we have all that with better realism, smaller and more powerful hardware, and more game variety. And compared to then, you don't have to take out a second mortgage to afford it - poo poo blows my mind.

I remember seeing something like that at the Stratosphere in Las Vegas when I was a kid, and they were running Duke Nukem 3D on it for some reason.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

I'll see your Ghostbusters and raise you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNmpTIMxmrU

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Fun fact, the "Ghostbusters" voice sample in that game was only possible thanks to manufacturing defects in the Commodore 64's sound chip.

wikipedia on MOS Technology SID posted:

Due to imperfect manufacturing technologies of the time and poor separation between the analog and digital parts of the chip, the 6581's output (before the amplifier stage) was always slightly biased from the zero level. By adjusting the amplifier's gain through the main 4-bit volume register, this bias could be modulated as PCM, resulting in a "virtual" fourth channel allowing 4-bit digital sample playback. The glitch was known and used from an early point on, first by Electronic Speech Systems to produce sampled speech in games such as Impossible Mission (1983, Epyx) and Ghostbusters (1984, Activision).

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

So something I purchased drunk arrived today. A Sony Walkman Casette player.



I'm assuming the drive belt has melted because it won't drive the cassette and the headphone jack needs to be re-soldered because the right headphone is pretty quiet right now compared to the left. Expected some stuff like that as I didn't have $300 magically appear on my credit card bill and these things have become a hot commodity for whatever reason. I am fairly impressed with the build quality compared to electronics today though, feels very solid and well built. The buttons are way nicer than anything on the market right now and have a real mechanical feel. It also uses brushed metal, which I find is always an indication of good quality.



The neat thing about this one that I completely didn't realize until I tried to put a cassette in and it didn't fit is that the form factor is almost as small as a cassette. in order to fit the cassette the walkman actually slides open to accommodate the height of the cassette.



It makes a certain amount of sense with the FM functionality but apparently Sony made a stand alone cassette slide out version. I don't exactly understand the appeal of something designed to have a smaller form factor except for when it has to become bigger for its only functional use.

I can post some photos of the internals when I get round to repairing it if anyone is interested.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
These things were so cool when they were new. I don't think they lost that cachet for me until I saw my first Discman, and then that became the coolest portable music device.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Dick Trauma posted:

These things were so cool when they were new. I don't think they lost that cachet for me until I saw my first Discman, and then that became the coolest portable music device.

Did your school have a lil cold war around grade 7-8 where everybody was trying to outdo everyone else by having the thinnest discman? I still remember the day my friend came to school with a cd player that had those loving gumstick batteries. impossibly thin. Mine was a really fat one but it played MP3s and nobody really understood why that was so cool or why I only had one CD.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Collateral Damage posted:

Even worse than failing floppies: Having to adjust the read head on your Commodore 1530 Datasette before it would load a program without errors. :suicide:

Yeah, I only had a datasette with my c64. Heaps of trial and error loading cassettes, especially when some were copied using peoples various double cassette players. But also had problems with bought games to depending on manufacturer.
The process was try to load, wait to see if it fails, adjust and try again, see if it fails sooner, then adjust the azimuth the other way, repeat.
I remember at the time there was an aftermarket datasette with an external knob to adjust, and LED read out showing something like signal strength so you could adjust on the fly. E: It was called "load-it!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5tIyjNHfY
I always wanted one, but never bought one because a fdd made more sense. In the end I bought neither.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Fo3 posted:

I always wanted one, but never bought one because a fdd made more sense. In the end I bought neither.
Same here. I knew about the Load-It, but I never got one.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Collateral Damage posted:

Same here. I knew about the Load-It, but I never got one.

If I still had my c64 I would make my own. While searching for the name of the load-it I found some interesting things.
First was one using an analogue meter for signal strength in a commodore branded datasette, so obviously home made. The second thing I found was someone using a cassette to 3mm headphone jack adapter - (the type people used to play discmans/mp3 devices in their old car cassette player), and loading games via an mp3 file from their phone straight through the cassette adapter into the datasette.
The guy using the cassette adapter for discmans/mp3 devices said head adjustment was required to use that and load games from his phone.
The whole concept was just awesome to me, as while floppies die, sound based loaders can last forever.
How cool is that? If you had the hardware you could just download MP3 files to play the games.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

Did your school have a lil cold war around grade 7-8 where everybody was trying to outdo everyone else by having the thinnest discman? I still remember the day my friend came to school with a cd player that had those loving gumstick batteries. impossibly thin. Mine was a really fat one but it played MP3s and nobody really understood why that was so cool or why I only had one CD.

Around grade 7-8 for me was 1978-79, so instead of personal electronics we were playing games with Star Wars trading cards. If you want a really '80s moment I saw my first Walkman in 1980 at a department store, and when I tried on the headphones the radio station was playing "While you see a chance" by Stevie Winwood. Fell in love with that song as well as listening to music on headphones. It's still my favorite way to listen to music.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

1500quidporsche posted:

these things have become a hot commodity for whatever reason.

My guess is it's a combination of the proximity to Halloween and the recent release of the film Guardians of the Galaxy, in which the main character has a walkman. Lots of people are looking for costume accessories right now and the film was a pretty big hit.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Efexeye posted:

that is catchy as heck

Yeah Huey Lewis and the News was a great band.

doodlebugs
Feb 18, 2015

by Lowtax
The Rhino, a 1950s all terrain vehicle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XABpd8IXBPI

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

doodlebugs posted:

The Rhino, a 1950s all terrain vehicle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XABpd8IXBPI

Why the gently caress didn't they call it the Hippo instead of Rhino?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I like to call it The Warthog.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

doodlebugs posted:

The Rhino, a 1950s all terrain vehicle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XABpd8IXBPI

Oh my GOD I want one of those where can I get one of those give me one NOW.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Jerry Cotton posted:

Yeah Huey Lewis and the News was a great band.

Nice.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

thespaceinvader posted:

Oh my GOD I want one of those where can I get one of those give me one NOW.

You might also want to consider the Soviet screw drive vehicles:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDe5dEu07I

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Computer viking posted:

You might also want to consider the Soviet screw drive vehicles:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDe5dEu07I

If you want the hell fined out of you for destroying the road.

big parcheesi player
Apr 1, 2014

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

Did your school have a lil cold war around grade 7-8 where everybody was trying to outdo everyone else by having the thinnest discman? I still remember the day my friend came to school with a cd player that had those loving gumstick batteries. impossibly thin. Mine was a really fat one but it played MP3s and nobody really understood why that was so cool or why I only had one CD.

My parents bought me the below CD player around that age bracket that using atrac file formating, I could have a CD that had all of Metallica's discography on it up to St. Anger and the album structure remained intact. So I was able to listen to The Black Album on repeat if I wanted to. Then jump to a different album.



Was also fun to push the button inside that registered that the lid was closed to open it while the disk was spinning and hold a sharpie to the cd to draw spiral designs on the disks.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Samizdata posted:

If you want the hell fined out of you for destroying the road.

Where we're going we don't need roads. :science:

Battle Rockers
Aug 3, 2008

i wanna witness ur slit

Computer viking posted:

You might also want to consider the Soviet screw drive vehicles:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDe5dEu07I

Didn't realize the Shagohod was real.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
'Playboy' To Stop Publishing Nude Images

quote:

Its executives admit that Playboy has been overtaken by the changes it pioneered. 'That battle has been fought and won,' said Scott Flanders, the company's chief executive. 'You're now one click away from every sex act imaginable for free. And so it's just passé at this juncture.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/b...WT.nav=top-news

quote:

The magazine will adopt a cleaner, more modern style, said Mr. Jones, who as chief content officer also oversees its website. There will still be a Playmate of the Month, but the pictures will be “PG-13” and less produced — more like the racier sections of Instagram. “A little more accessible, a little more intimate,” he said. It is not yet decided whether there will still be a centerfold.

Its sex columnist, Mr. Jones said, will be a “sex-positive female,” writing enthusiastically about sex. And Playboy will continue its tradition of investigative journalism, in-depth interviews and fiction. The target audience, Mr. Flanders said, is young men who live in cities. “The difference between us and Vice,” he said, “is that we’re going after the guy with a job.”

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Hate to say it, but it makes sense. Competing with free pornography online is a race to the bottom and damages their non-nude content, which still has some value.

That said, nudie mags are an obsolete and failed technology until an EMP pulse fries all of our electronics and people are trying to rub one out to Everyday with Rachel Ray.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Krispy Kareem posted:

Hate to say it, but it makes sense. Competing with free pornography online is a race to the bottom and damages their non-nude content, which still has some value.

That said, nudie mags are an obsolete and failed technology until an EMP pulse fries all of our electronics and people are trying to rub one out to Everyday with Rachel Ray.

As long as we have truck drivers we'll have nudie mags.

Playboy has always had decent non-nude content, but at this point "I read it for the articles," is more believable than anything else because who gives a poo poo about porn ('stunt' shoots with washed up stars notwithstanding, people get weird about their naked celebs). I'm just curious if this shift is a decade too late or perfectly timed. Considering the magazine landscape, anything between those two times would've been foolish.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

Kaizoku posted:

As long as we have truck drivers we'll have nudie mags.

Playboy has always had decent non-nude content, but at this point "I read it for the articles," is more believable than anything else because who gives a poo poo about porn ('stunt' shoots with washed up stars notwithstanding, people get weird about their naked celebs). I'm just curious if this shift is a decade too late or perfectly timed. Considering the magazine landscape, anything between those two times would've been foolish.

Even truck drivers browse pornhub now that you can get mobile internet and free WiFi in a lot of places. Nudie Mags really are a dying breed

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Shai-Hulud posted:

Even truck drivers browse pornhub now that you can get mobile internet and free WiFi in a lot of places. Nudie Mags really are a dying breed

They do and it is, but they also end up parked in rest areas w/o wifi that don't get signals from whatever operator. It's certainly a rapidly changing market, but you also have to consider most of those mags aren't the reason the content is being produced anymore--the porn is being made and primarily offered over the internet, so they just have to take the images they've already produced and plug them into a magazine template they've already produced--the only real costs are printing and distribution, maybe a copywriter (I doubt this is the sole or primary duty of any employee). In addition, they don't all have personal laptops and don't necessarily want to be limited by the size of the screen on their phone.

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Kaizoku posted:

They do and it is, but they also end up parked in rest areas w/o wifi that don't get signals from whatever operator. It's certainly a rapidly changing market, but you also have to consider most of those mags aren't the reason the content is being produced anymore--the porn is being made and primarily offered over the internet, so they just have to take the images they've already produced and plug them into a magazine template they've already produced--the only real costs are printing and distribution, maybe a copywriter (I doubt this is the sole or primary duty of any employee). In addition, they don't all have personal laptops and don't necessarily want to be limited by the size of the screen on their phone.

Look, man, static porn imagery is, I don't know, so last 3 am. Why shouldn't I be able to get my porn in motion?

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