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Toozler posted:So the Amazon bundle won't actually let you level past 55 until the 27th, am I reading this correctly? Exactly. EA! 
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Am I better off getting back into this before the expansion drops, or should I just wait until all of the nice quality of life stuff is in? I mean I already have my main parked at 60 but I'd like to have a Republic character, too, and playing alts is always fun.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:39
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Rincewind posted:Am I better off getting back into this before the expansion drops, or should I just wait until all of the nice quality of life stuff is in? If you already have the expansions and are willing to sub, the 12x XP is good to get classes up you haven't yet.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:48
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I am behind an expansion pack, will the new one coming out include previous expansions?
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Oct 10, 2015 03:50
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I said come in! posted:I am behind an expansion pack, will the new one coming out include previous expansions? Yeah, but it doesn't currently so you can only get up to 55.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:52
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, but it doesn't currently so you can only get up to 55. I'm gonna wait then. Very busy with other games and life stuff anyways but excited for the upcoming expansion, it looks really good.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:56
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Aphrodite posted:If you already have the expansions and are willing to sub, the 12x XP is good to get classes up you haven't yet. Oh, I didn't know the 12x XP was still going! Looks like I'll be subbing as soon as I have some time to play. (i.e., after I finish Undertale  )
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Oct 10, 2015 03:59
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It's ending soon, but you still got two weeks or so left. Plenty of time to level a character, or maybe two or three depending how much free time you want to waste. Subbing before the expansion hits gets you a mount too, so hey.
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Oct 10, 2015 04:22
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Asimo posted:It's ending soon, but you still got two weeks or so left. Plenty of time to level a character, or maybe two or three depending how much free time you want to waste. I think I'll level my agent, since I really want to see the agent storyline but don't feel like sitting through all of the shared imperial quests again. I also want to eventually get my smuggler to 60, but since I haven't seen any Republic content past level 25 or so I'd be okay with not zipping past it all. EDIT: Although TBH I'm not even 100% sold on smuggler, anyway. What Republic classes have the best storylines? The smuggler seems extremely.... Star Warsy, and she gets to constantly complain about being paid, both of which are things I like a lot, but at 12x XP I'd be willing to give something else a try.
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Oct 10, 2015 04:28
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Rincewind posted:I think I'll level my agent, since I really want to see the agent storyline but don't feel like sitting through all of the shared imperial quests again. I also want to eventually get my smuggler to 60, but since I haven't seen any Republic content past level 25 or so I'd be okay with not zipping past it all. Smuggler is the least awful Republic story imo. Your character is such a smug little prick who you want to punch which is exactly how I feel a smuggler should be.
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Oct 10, 2015 05:04
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Eimi posted:Smuggler is the least awful Republic story imo. Your character is such a smug little prick who you want to punch which is exactly how I feel a smuggler should be. I have a friend who diverged from goon opinion and actually liked the Trooper storyline the most because he felt it succumbed the least to Star Wars cliches.
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Oct 10, 2015 06:28
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Fojar38 posted:I have a friend who diverged from goon opinion and actually liked the Trooper storyline the most because he felt it succumbed the least to Star Wars cliches. The Trooper, if anything, is the most cliche mary sue-ish story out of the bunch on top of being so one-dimensional as far as the story is concerned.
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Oct 10, 2015 06:56
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Trooper was kinda fun for Commander Shepard's Republic Commando but it ran out of steam after the first act
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Oct 10, 2015 07:01
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Honestly, all the storylines are alright, everyone is going to have their own tastes. Like, some goon the other page thought the sith inquisitor was the best thing ever, and that's been my least favorite play through so far. Though the only objective truth is the agent storyline is the best.
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Oct 10, 2015 07:04
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A lot of the stories sag in Act 2, but get better when the final adversary you face off with at the end of Act 3 shows up. The Trooper's enemy, though, doesn't really measure up. Between that and the schizophrenic tone of the story, I didn't care for it much. Still better than BH, though, because I wasn't left wondering why I kept doing jobs for these idiots.
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Oct 10, 2015 07:05
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It's weird for me, the blistering pace of the 12x story quests has perhaps made these other class stories that much more forgettable for me, like I'm just bouncing around like a pinball and I also am not talking to any of my companions because I think someone in the other thread said not to do that to max affection or something. I did do Agent first a long time ago so they all pale in comparison anyway, I guess.
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Oct 10, 2015 07:08
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Back Hack posted:The Trooper, if anything, is the most cliche mary sue-ish story out of the bunch on top of being so one-dimensional as far as the story is concerned. I've only played the first planet of trooper, but I agree that it avoids a lot of Star Wars cliches... by embracing the cliches of some other thing that is not Star Wars. By the Ironclad Laws of Star Wars troopers are there to get mowed down in the background. They shouldn't be... doing things! It's unnatural.
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Oct 10, 2015 07:09
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Back Hack posted:The Trooper, if anything, is the most cliche mary sue-ish story out of the bunch on top of being so one-dimensional as far as the story is concerned. I mentioned Star Wars cliches specifically. I love the Smuggler storyline but it's an excellent example. You get on the not-Millenium Falcon and get gear that makes you look like not-Han Solo, and along the way you pick up a not-Chewbacca companion and go on adventures with not-Princess Leia who is also the love interest for men. For how one-dimensional the Trooper narrative is it doesn't have perfect 1:1 representation with something in the movies, and is probably the only Republic class that doesn't.
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Oct 10, 2015 07:10
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Berke Negri posted:Honestly, all the storylines are alright
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Oct 10, 2015 07:20
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Hey any of you guys know if the chest piece this NPC has is a thing you can get: It's really similar to the Death Claw/Republic Squadron Commander chest but the NPC version doesn't have the things draped over the shoulder pads and I want it.
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Oct 10, 2015 08:17
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Eimi posted:Smuggler is the least awful Republic story imo. Your character is such a smug little prick who you want to punch which is exactly how I feel a smuggler should be. I think the saving grace of the smuggler is that the smuggler's jokes and wisecracks are actually funny (for a video game), or at the very least, amusing. I haven't played the male smuggler, but having done all eight classes I'd say the voice actor for the female smuggler probably does the best out of all of the voice actresses at actually giving her lines character. The Agent still has the best story, but I'd say the smuggler story has the best written character dialogue. My list would go Agent, Smuggler, Warrior, Inquisitor, Bounty Hunter, Knight, Consular, Trooper.
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Oct 10, 2015 10:46
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Reveilled posted:My list would go Agent, Smuggler, Warrior, Inquisitor, Bounty Hunter, Knight, Consular, Trooper. I will fight you. The Consular is everything I ever wanted out of a Jedi story, one that really embraces the Jedi PC as a wise mystic and diplomat like how Jedi are supposed to be in my mind, not a space samurai.
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Oct 10, 2015 11:13
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Honestly, if you want to seriously "rank" the class stories, you'd probably want to have multiple categories, each with their own ranking. Since stuff like good dialogue (Smuggler, BH), fun companion interaction, story relevance (knight), and so on matter even if the overall arc isn't the "best" one. Probably important to consider individual acts too, since some classes have really strong opening acts but fall apart hard later (Trooper).
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Oct 10, 2015 11:42
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Cythereal posted:I will fight you. The Consular is everything I ever wanted out of a Jedi story, one that really embraces the Jedi PC as a wise mystic and diplomat like how Jedi are supposed to be in my mind, not a space samurai. The thing is, if you were to summarize the Consular story in about six lines, you would have a great Star Wars story. It's the fine detail work in the execution that leaves a lot to be desired. On the other hand, in broad strokes, Trooper sucks. But a few details are nice.
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Oct 10, 2015 11:46
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Cythereal posted:I will fight you. The Consular is everything I ever wanted out of a Jedi story, one that really embraces the Jedi PC as a wise mystic and diplomat like how Jedi are supposed to be in my mind, not a space samurai. I think one of the real problems with Jedi, particularly old republic Jedi, is the supression of emotions. As such Jedi stories have very little emotive impact and their voice acting tends to be flat, at least if you are playing mostly light-sided. I like the Jedi as wise mystics, too, but honestly I think in the Star Wars setting Jedi actually work better as secondary characters rather than protagonists. The consular's story wasn't bad, and maybe on reflection I'd put it higher up than the Knight, but the Consular's supporting characters were largely unmemorable, and the diplomacy stuff felt kinda like window dressing in Act 2, since Liberate Balmorra and Stop the White Maw are pretty much what every character does in the planetary storylines on those worlds. Don't get me wrong, I still liked it overall, but I couldn't see myself every playing through it again for fun the way I have with the Agent, Smuggler and Sith.
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Reveilled posted:I think one of the real problems with Jedi, particularly old republic Jedi, is the supression of emotions. As such Jedi stories have very little emotive impact and their voice acting tends to be flat, at least if you are playing mostly light-sided. It's a problem yeah. Thankfully I offset it slightly by having my Consular have a ruthless side with armed enemies, Sith, but not the Empire, and Hutts/The Cartel as a whole. Still a good Jedi, just prone to snarling at Hutts. 
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Thyrork posted:It's a problem yeah. Thankfully I offset it slightly by having my Consular have a ruthless side with armed enemies, Sith, but not the Empire, and Hutts/The Cartel as a whole. Still a good Jedi, just prone to snarling at Hutts. The Consular can also point out that how dogmatically the Jedi have adhered to the Jedi Code is something that's varied over the centuries. At present in TOR the Jedi are very conservative about the Jedi Code, but during the reconstruction of the Order after the Jedi Civil War the Code was interpreted as guidelines and Jedi were encouraged to love and marry. It's one of the things I like about the Consular. You can politely disagree with many parts of Jedi dogma without immediately going dark side. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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Oct 10, 2015 12:58
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Isn't post 4.0 they story xp boost gonna be pretty much permanent anyway? I want to sit out to then.
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Oct 10, 2015 13:14
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cheesetriangles posted:Isn't post 4.0 they story xp boost gonna be pretty much permanent anyway? I want to sit out to then.
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Oct 10, 2015 13:36
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Oct 10, 2015 16:04
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12x is only for subscribers, it hasn't been mentioned whether it'll still be post expansion. Considering EA is nickel and diming this poo poo, I'd tend to say yes.
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Oct 10, 2015 16:07
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Jan posted:12x is only for subscribers, it hasn't been mentioned whether it'll still be post expansion. I don't see them nickel and diming at all. You get access to everything if you subscribe. The expansion is completely free. There's nothing additional you have to buy as a subscriber. If you want to be free to play, yes, you're going to have a miserable time and will be prompted to spend money frequently. Shockingly they want to make money.
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Oct 10, 2015 16:57
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Paywalls are unreasonable garbage no matter what, and TOR has one of the worst. There's better more successful ways to make money in F2P MMOs, but I guess if this works for EA then more power to them. Although considering their past history with MMORPGs I bet this isn't even doing that well for them, EA loves shooting themselves in the foot.
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Oct 10, 2015 17:51
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Can someone remind me how SWTOR's taunt works (in pve)? The tooltip says it forces the enemy to attack you for 6 seconds; does it also bump you to the top of the threat table, or is it literally just the 6 seconds that it gives you? I'm assuming that taunts in this game are "oh poo poo, i lost aggro" buttons, and that I shouldn't be using them as part of my normal threat-building rotation if things are otherwise going well? I know that in some MMOs, taunts just build a bunch of aggro points, but iirc SWTOR isn't like that.
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Medullah posted:I don't see them nickel and diming at all. You get access to everything if you subscribe. The expansion is completely free. There's nothing additional you have to buy as a subscriber. The F2P model is hostilely nickel and dime. And as long as they keep the UI restrictions (customization, max 2 hotbars -- it used to be 1!!), nothing will make me say otherwise. Basic functionality is not something you should lock behind a paywall. I'm perfectly satisfied paying to be a subscriber, mind you! But they really went about it completely the wrong way when they first went F2P. I think Guild Wars 2 has the right idea -- pay for the game, add completely cosmetic pretty princess microtransactions but don't limit gameplay otherwise. Anyway, that's old hat now.
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Oct 10, 2015 18:01
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Ainsley McTree posted:Can someone remind me how SWTOR's taunt works (in pve)? The tooltip says it forces the enemy to attack you for 6 seconds; does it also bump you to the top of the threat table, or is it literally just the 6 seconds that it gives you? Taunt puts you at 30% more threat than the highest threat on a target. If a target has no threat (i.e. you use it to open a fight) it'll add nothing. Edit: in opening a fight you should taunt after you use you're two most threatening attacks. For Sins this would be Force Pull->Shock->Taunt. No DPS can generate enough threat to counter that giving you an excellent cushion. During the fight Taunt should be used on CD unless an aggro drop or swap mechanic is present. DrunkenGarbageCan fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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Oct 10, 2015 18:02
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DrunkenGarbageCan posted:Taunt puts you at 30% more threat than the highest threat on a target. If a target has no threat (i.e. you use it to open a fight) it'll add nothing. Or if your DPS is terrible and you're able to maintain threat without taunting. 
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Oct 10, 2015 18:20
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DrunkenGarbageCan posted:Taunt puts you at 30% more threat than the highest threat on a target. If a target has no threat (i.e. you use it to open a fight) it'll add nothing. Thanks. I definitely wasn't using it that way, haha. That explains some things that happened in KP last night. What would be a good opener for a jugg then? Aegis > Crushing blow > Backhand > Taunt, maybe?
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Oct 10, 2015 18:22
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Reveilled posted:I think the saving grace of the smuggler is that the smuggler's jokes and wisecracks are actually funny (for a video game), or at the very least, amusing. I haven't played the male smuggler, but having done all eight classes I'd say the voice actor for the female smuggler probably does the best out of all of the voice actresses at actually giving her lines character. The Agent still has the best story, but I'd say the smuggler story has the best written character dialogue. The Smuggler is the best character, closely followed by the Inquisitor. Their stories are kind of week but still fun to play because they're great.
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General Maximus posted:That's only for subscribers though, right? As far as I know everybody gets the new quests in 4.0. Right now even if you're free2play you still get every waypoint unlocked and 12 commendations from class quests. Quickbars, the credit cap and no bank are the only serious problems with free and you're heavily encouraged to at least go to preferred to unlock those.
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