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Torquemadras posted:Homura's actions towards the end as well as her true motivations are awesome, make sense and elevate an already incredible movie to a worthy sequel to the series It is pretty much guaranteed to happen, even against Urobuchi's wishes. (He didn't even want to make a sequel movie.)
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AlternateNu posted:It is pretty much guaranteed to happen, even against Urobuchi's wishes. (He didn't even want to make a sequel movie.) Well, if he DOES stay onboard, this would at least guarantee the mean-spiritedness against the characters  I can't imagine another series without Urobuchi, Shinbo or Kajiura - and that's just the people I immediately recognized from their other works. It's still mind-blowing how good almost every single facet of the original series is. That's what worried me about the Rebellion movie, actually. There just seemed to be no room whatsoever for a proper continuation of the story, and the signs of being caught in the usual "unnecessary sequel" trappings appeared pretty soon. In the end, I think they avoided almost all of that (might be Urobuchi was especially aware of that danger?), but I don't think the same trick will work twice. For another series, I hope they find some other way to provide somewhat of a fresh start to avoid sequel baggage. Hell, they already have convenient universe reset / amnesia all around / a new and yet unknown enemy phenomenon... I think a new cast / general cast-cleanup is in order. (Not that I expect or want GRIMDARK KILL'EM ALL...) Let me tell you about my important thoughts about the Madoka franchise *foams at mouth*
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Kellanved posted:Homura owns in this, but people tend to forget that she is bugfuck insane. So don't expect well thought out decisions from her. They did a good job with her crazy eyes
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I'm sorry I pre-judged you, Bebe.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:02
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have you ever noticed that david caruso in csi miami does the same head tilt as the girls in madoka?
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Oct 10, 2015 20:04
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Perhaps the same could be said of all SHAFT shows
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Oct 10, 2015 20:12
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csi miami is my favorite anime is the thing
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Torquemadras posted:Well, if he DOES stay onboard, this would at least guarantee the mean-spiritedness against the characters It was kind of a double-whammy, actually. Not only did Urobuchi not intend to write a sequel movie, when he submitted the first script for Rebellion, it was supposed to end with Madoka being released and taking Homura with her to Magic Girl Valhalla. Shinbo and Kajiura didn't want it to end there, so they told him to add more. When Uro asked what the hell else they wanted because thematically, it wouldn't end right any other way unless Homura becomes Madoka's enemy. So, they told him to go with that, and that's what we got.
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a cartoon duck posted:csi miami is my favorite anime is the thing Take your gaijin garbage back to miami
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Oct 11, 2015 00:07
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CSI Mami
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AlternateNu posted:It was kind of a double-whammy, actually. Not only did Urobuchi not intend to write a sequel movie, when he submitted the first script for Rebellion, it was supposed to end with Madoka being released and taking Homura with her to Magic Girl Valhalla. Shinbo and Kajiura didn't want it to end there, so they told him to add more. When Uro asked what the hell else they wanted because thematically, it wouldn't end right any other way unless Homura becomes Madoka's enemy. So, they told him to go with that, and that's what we got. I thought I had read the opposite, that Urobuchi decided on the Homura loving over Madoka ending being the more appropriate ending without being directed by Shinbo et al
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Jesus christ the relevant interview is piss easy to google why are you going with half-remembered rumors. http://feral-phoenix.livejournal.com/685568.html quote:What kind of story did you think up at first?
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Namtab posted:If we're talking symbolism tho then mami should have been the melon and not cheese  Space Flower posted:I hope Ume showed up in a metapod suit 
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Sayaka is a pivotal character and without her arc the story wouldn't be as memorable or intense. She embodies the typical human experience, trying to bury our selfish desires and rationalize the desires that float to the surface. Her flaws and fall are important, showing us how being dishonest and trying to maintain a perfect image and ruthlessly hold yourself to an unrealistic moral code can wear at a person. A lot of people have called her the most human of the characters because of this. We all have desires that we keep locked up, and others that we try to rationalize as a good thing. If you've ever tried to hold yourself to a more virtuous conduct, you probably had to deal with breaking that conduct and felt bad about it. If you didn't break it, you probably felt constrained by it, frustrated by it. Sayaka's a very understandable character and--in some ways--becomes a person we don't want to be. People have called her a bitch for that. Stupid. Weak. That's why I like her. She's the most relatable because she fails. The story resonates better with the audience because Sayaka is there to show us from start to finish how the good fall, how those with good intentions suffer. Also Sayaka is just cool and awesome and has a million swords and a loving cape do you realize how cool that is a loving cape and she runs and fights and is awesome thanks.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Also Sayaka is just cool and awesome and has a million swords and a loving cape do you realize how cool that is a loving cape and she runs and fights and is awesome thanks.
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Blaziken386 posted:Sayaka is best girl. Plus, in Rebellion, her Magical Girl Transformation involves her freakin' breakdancing. she loving breakdances and then when homura takes over sayaka is the only one who fights back and is gonna be fuckin important god drat sayaka why are you so cool e: remember when she stopped homura from stopping time by whipping out her sword and jamming the time shield gently caress sayaka you're the coolest
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Oct 25, 2015 08:42
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sayaka's self-destruction was honestly harder for me to watch than even episode 10 because i've seen friends ruin their own lives out of anger and self-loathing like that irl i mean they didn't murder anyone on public transport or turn into giant orchestra monsters but the rest of it hit pretty close to home
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I've said it once, I'll say it again Sayaka has the greatest scene in all of Madoka: Kyubi tells her about the possibility of not feeling pain by detaching your soul from your puppet body, and later on she gets stabbed to hell by the shadow tree witch and she does just that, proceeding to rip that witch apart while yelling "HE WAS RIGHT I DON'T FEEL ANYTHING AHAHAHAHA" That scene is peak Urobuchi, right there. Goddamn that guy does despair so well. I was almost sad that they brought Sayaka back for the movie since she had such a perfectly encapsulated tragedy in the series, especially since she had the flimsiest excuse to revive, but it's nice to see her character turn over a new leaf. Curious where this could go next.
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Oct 28, 2015 03:17
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Infinite universes, checkmate.
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Oct 28, 2015 03:40
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Kyoko and Sayaka would both watch and enjoy Kill La Kill. 
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Oct 28, 2015 03:45
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Command Ant posted:Kyoko and Sayaka would both watch and enjoy Kill La Kill. Which Kill la Kill would Sayaka be?
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PerrineClostermann posted:Which Kill la Kill would Sayaka be? Unless we're going by design, in which case she's either Ryuko or Mako.
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Blaziken386 posted:Nonon. They both have a music motif, and they're both slightly crazy. They also have the same English VA.
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Hommando posted:They also have the same English VA. Gross
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So I finally watched the series after years of seeing references to it everywhere.  I wasn't ready I'm in the middle of watching Beginnings and Eternal right now, then on to Rebellion so I can be further emotionally distraught. Why am I doing this to myself? Why am I crying over a loving magical girl anime? (Also Kyouko best girl)
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Subtuna posted:So I finally watched the series after years of seeing references to it everywhere. Kyouko worst. Sayaka best.
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rebellion is the best, homura is the best, chaos reigns imo I hope they leave it where it is
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PerrineClostermann posted:Kyouko worst. Sayaka best.  However Sayaka second best.
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I will not stand for this discord. All the Madokas are good.
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Oct 31, 2015 08:45
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Except Hitomi.
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Hitomi acted in a completely reasonable manner given she was completely ignorant of Sayaka's extenuating circumstances and literally did nothing wrong. And even if you think she did, she ended up getting the short end anyway, trying to get together with someone as devoted to their career prospects as Kyousuke is a relationship that is doomed to crushing failure. Sayaka dodged a bullet.
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Oct 31, 2015 10:10
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Hitomi is a homophobe Also Homura is best Madoka obviously
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Just a few more pages until lord justice is free!
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