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Burkion posted:So, the Doctor got his Scottish from Amy That phrase still irritates me to no end.
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And More posted:The Fisher King never really turned into a proper character, though. I agree mainly cause of the two awesome voices they sourced for him.
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Oct 11, 2015 00:56
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That was alright. I like a quiet thoughtful story like that. The Fisher King looked really good.
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Oct 11, 2015 01:59
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I honestly loved it, and would already place these two episodes in my top ten of the series. I haven't had that reaction in a very long time.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:18
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DONT DIE ON ME DOCTOR, NOT NOW! yo, he regenerates. shut up.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:22
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God I hope the series hasn't peaked.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:22
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The cold open was loving fantastic. The rest, ESPECIALLY the beat-you-over-the-head obvious reprisal of the cold open at the end, was considerably less so.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:26
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Dude just calls the Doctor out for treating O'Donnell like a test subject, that he only cares about saving clara because she's close to him. His answer is that he's saving Clara, not himself.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:27
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DoctorWhat posted:The cold open was loving fantastic. The rest, ESPECIALLY the beat-you-over-the-head obvious reprisal of the cold open at the end, was considerably less so. I was expecting the cold open to go somewhere, but its only purpose was to be called back to, it was fun but had no purpose in the episode. The whole concept had no purpose in the episode really, apart from to point out that the Doctor gave himself the idea in an infinite loop with no starting point. But if they're not going anywhere with it, why bother to point it out? The characters just shrug and the episode ends. It was weird.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:44
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2house2fly posted:I was expecting the cold open to go somewhere, but its only purpose was to be called back to, it was fun but had no purpose in the episode. The whole concept had no purpose in the episode really, apart from to point out that the Doctor gave himself the idea in an infinite loop with no starting point. But if they're not going anywhere with it, why bother to point it out? The characters just shrug and the episode ends. It was weird. 4 or 5 seasons from now it will be teased in the marketing as an old unanswered question that's going to get revisited; and then ultimately mean next to nothing.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:47
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jivjov posted:4 or 5 seasons from now it will be teased in the marketing as an old unanswered question that's going to get revisited; and then ultimately mean next to nothing. Honest question, so what was the point/reason/answer of/to the Silence. Because I don't remember that poo poo at all.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:50
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A bit rough around the edges, but I enjoyed it. It feels like there were a few missing scenes in the past, where they go back into time half an hour, the Doctor says "gently caress it, I can save Clara" and then O'Donnell dies again anyway, even though we apparently don't see it. and the Doctor's off getting snarking with the Fisher King. Even though it technically was a causal loop and the Doctor didn't really change anything, it would've been nice to see that bit tied up a bit more. Of course, it could've been, and I just missed it.
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Oct 11, 2015 02:52
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squarerandom posted:Dude just calls the Doctor out for treating O'Donnell like a test subject, that he only cares about saving clara because she's close to him. His answer is that he's saving Clara, not himself. This bit especially fell flat because the Doctor makes an attempt to keep O'Donnell on the TARDIS. The subsequent "YOU, DOCTOR, ARE THE REAL MONSTER!" bit felt like the least earned one yet. This felt like it could have been a single episode. There was definitely not ninety minutes of material in here. The resolution with the ghosts was lame, the village was so boring that even the production crew realized it and said, "Dunno, put up some Russian signs or something," and the last minute, "Oh, they're in love!" falls flat. Definitely Whithouse's worst script. Come to think of it, the Russian bit feels like it was cribbed from The Curse of Fenric, which is also where Whithouse took the ending of The God Complex from.
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squarerandom posted:Honest question, so what was the point/reason/answer of/to the Silence. Because I don't remember that poo poo at all. I think that was just Moffat making it up as he went along. The whole "Oh yeah, remember the cracks? That's actually Gallifrey in a pocket universe!" "Silence will fall? Alien species for the opening two parter that will hardly ever get mentioned again"...Moffat can do a decent enough season arc, but not a mulit-season one.
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The cracks weren't Gallifrey in a pocket universe, Gallifrey was using the cracks to try to get back
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2house2fly posted:The cracks weren't Gallifrey in a pocket universe, Gallifrey was using the cracks to try to get back Clearly the Doctor and the Master were their two leading experts at bullshit dimensional technobabble, or they'd already be back.
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Oct 11, 2015 03:08
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So.... "Minister of War", blatant foreshadowing or throwaway 'make it sound future-y' reference? And if the former, odds that it's Michelle Gomez in a trouser-suit? Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 03:18
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That episode was extremely my jam. Loved the opening, loved the horror movie bit with Cass. Did not love O'Donnel dying, but these things need stakes don't they? All in all that was really good.
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Oct 11, 2015 03:25
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Oh yeah, that other guy who went back with the Doctor did nothing in the whole episode except for be something for the Doctor to give expostion to about time travel (a hand puppet would have served that purpose), and O'Donnell's only contribution was to get killed. If I'm ever in a situation where the Doctor is saying to me "you should probably leave but if I employ a bit of reverse psychology you might decide to stay" I'm just going to leave.
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Oct 11, 2015 03:39
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Gaz-L posted:So.... "Minister of War", blatant foreshadowing or throwaway 'make it sound future-y' reference? Given that she mentioned Harold Saxon in the same breath, I took Capaldi's response to it as kind of a playful jab at RTD's hamhanded arc words. It could be a genuine attempt at them, though.
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Oct 11, 2015 03:44
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Rochallor posted:Come to think of it, the Russian bit feels like it was cribbed from The Curse of Fenric, which is also where Whithouse took the ending of The God Complex from. Isn't Whithouse the one that never watched the classic series?
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Oct 11, 2015 03:56
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I can't believe that after they cast Maisie Williams and the woman who plays Cass not a single person on the production team said "They should play younger and older versions of the same character" because I mean:
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Oct 11, 2015 05:33
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I don't know why, but calling out to the deaf person is the most perfectly human thing I've seen on television.
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Kilo147 posted:I don't know why, but calling out to the deaf person is the most perfectly human thing I've seen on television. When she was calling out to her I was saying to the TV,"You idiot, she's deaf!" and then she pretty much said to herself,"Oh you idiot, she's deaf!" It was great 
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Oct 11, 2015 05:55
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I think the answer to the Doctor's question is the Time Lords. That is sort of the job of the average Time Lord - resolve paradoxes, snip off divergent timelines, etc. His question at the end seemed to imply that they were still a factor in the universe.
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Oct 11, 2015 05:59
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I don't think there was meant to be answer or a teaser for some deeper explanation, it was more the Doctor enjoying pointing out the paradox to Clara and the fact that he did not (and could not) know if he came up with the idea to save himself or was always relying on the loop to give him the idea. Of course maybe it'll turn out that isn't the case at all, but he seemed more playful teacher/grandfather figure there to me than somebody positing a problem in search of an actual solution.
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Jerusalem posted:I don't think there was meant to be answer or a teaser for some deeper explanation, it was more the Doctor enjoying pointing out the paradox to Clara and the fact that he did not (and could not) know if he came up with the idea to save himself or was always relying on the loop to give him the idea. Plus I don't think the show has ever really made it a mystery that the Time Lords job was basically to snip strands of time paradox. Didn't Nine say as much in Father's Day? Paradoxes once in a while aren't terrible, but that's because the Time Lords were around to keep poo poo cleaned up?
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Classtoise posted:Paradoxes once in a while aren't terrible, but that's because the Time Lords were around to keep poo poo cleaned up? In Hide the professor protests the notion of time travel and starts to talk about paradoxes, and the Doctor just irritably cuts him off with,"tend to resolve themselves!" But as we've seen with the show, the complexity or otherwise of time travel and how it "works" changes based on the story they're doing at the time and usually (and rightfully) takes a secondary position to dramatic effect.
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Oct 11, 2015 06:18
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This had me giggling like an idiot when it happened.  Also because of this episode I've now learned how to swear in ASL. Thanks, Cass!
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Oct 11, 2015 06:51
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The love stuff was really hamfisted, but otherwise I really liked that episode. Also The Doctor is going to forget to erase the words from the guy so don't worry that awesome costume will be back. Also this was hilarious. Why would you make his body zoom offscreen, just let the wave go over him. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 06:56
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So for those that can sign what did the "don't need to translate that one" actually say?
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GonSmithe posted:The love stuff was really hamfisted, but otherwise I really liked that episode. Water is non compressive. That much water, that fast, would kick you head over heels. It reminds me a little of Fires of Pompeii, with the doctor causing the disaster.
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Oct 11, 2015 07:17
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Darth Brooks posted:Water is non compressive. That much water, that fast, would kick you head over heels. It reminds me a little of Fires of Pompeii, with the doctor causing the disaster. I really don't care about water physics in my time traveling spaceman show, I care that it looks like they removed a Looney Tunes sound effect from it (they learned their lesson from Deep Breath).
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Oct 11, 2015 07:43
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The Doctors fourth wall breaking monologue to the camera was a littlw strange, until I realised there is no reason it can't fit into continuity of the episode. If the camera zoomed out a little bit as the Doctor picked up the guitar we'd probably see O'Donnell looking all fangirl excited with the other dude just sitting there going  .Kind of sad that didn't happen, the Doctor hamming it up for O'Donnell would have built up the idea of her being a potential companion and given her death more weight.
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Senor Tron posted:The Doctors fourth wall breaking monologue to the camera was a littlw strange, until I realised there is no reason it can't fit into continuity of the episode. If the camera zoomed out a little bit as the Doctor picked up the guitar we'd probably see O'Donnell looking all fangirl excited with the other dude just sitting there going Talking to the audience is kind of Twelve's thing. He did it at the start of Listen as well.
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Oct 11, 2015 08:22
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Pretty sure it was meant to Clara.
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