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OriginalPseudonym posted:I just got my first “do the needful” in the wild, from a qa person. I laughed, thinking they were making a joke, and they looked confused. So I guess this is an actual thing now, not just an engrish ticket phrase. I got one, from a bloke on my own team, that I'm team lead of. I think we need to have a chat with him. This wasn't an email to me, it was sent to a client ISA. So ashamed.
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Why be ashamed? It's a perfectly cromulent phrase - it's a concise way of saying "I may not necessarily know or care about the mundane details of how you make x happen, just do what you have to do to unfuck this situation"
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Mutar posted:Why be ashamed? It's a perfectly cromulent phrase - it's a concise way of saying "I may not necessarily know or care about the mundane details of how you make x happen, just do what you have to do to unfuck this situation" Mainly because the word needful is an adjective, not a noun. It's offensively bad grammar and annoying as gently caress because it's almost always associated with tech organizations outsourced to certain south Asian countries.
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AlexDeGruven posted:Mainly because the word needful is an adjective, not a noun. It's offensively bad grammar and annoying as gently caress because it's almost always associated with tech organizations outsourced to certain south Asian countries. At least it makes sense when you look at it, unlike a lot of bad grammar phrases.
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AlexDeGruven posted:Mainly because the word needful is an adjective, not a noun. Okay Mr. Linguistic Highground, would you care to articulate what happened to the presumptive subject/verb pair proceeding "mainly because" in this sentence? You wouldn't have happened to just leave them out because you think that it's circunstantially appropriate to elide implied parts of a sentence, would you? ilkhan posted:Mentally replace needful with needed and shut up. "Needed" is a verb of the past participle. Your predilection to use it as a noun (which is appropriate) is exactly the same as the one that caused the British to use "needful" as a noun 200 years ago, when they were teaching the Indians the King's speech at gunpoint. Eikre fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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We have done it. We have finally reached the point where someone has defended do the needful. The thread is officially tainted.
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Shut it down, ban OP, gas the thread, we'll never speak of this again.
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Sickening posted:We have done it. We have finally reached the point where someone has defended do the needful. The thread is officially tainted. Sounds like it's time for a new thread OriginalPseudonym posted:Shut it down, ban OP, gas the thread, we'll never speak of this again. t 
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Sickening posted:We have done it. We have finally reached the point where someone has defended do the needful. The thread is officially tainted. kensei do the needful
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re: re: a ticket came in - doing the needful is a curse, not a noun
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Entropic posted:Yes, with a flathead screwdriver and some gentle leverage. Sadly, I don't think back-alley lobotomizing people is OK to do.
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Sickening posted:We have done it. We have finally reached the point where someone has defended do the needful. The thread is officially tainted. Empty quoting this. Do the needful is an abomination.
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It's not that I like the phrase, I just think it's easier to decipher most of the bullshit "English" that people use today. Poor English is the rule today, not the exception.
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ilkhan posted:Mentally replace needful with needed and shut up. No, people need to learn to use proper English grammar like an adult. Anyone that falls back on "bad English is the norm now", especially to continue using lovely, lazy grammar, deserves to be laughed at like the idiot they are. If someone can't even bother to spell properly or put a sentence together, why should a job NOT throw their resume in the garbage where it belongs? Do you really think I'm going to pay attention to an email from someone who writes like a drat 6 year old?
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my bad
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Empty quoting this. Do the needful is an abomination. This isn't an empty quote Ozz81 posted:No, people need to learn to use proper English grammar like an adult. Anyone that falls back on "bad English is the norm now", especially to continue using lovely, lazy grammar, deserves to be laughed at like the idiot they are. If someone can't even bother to spell properly or put a sentence together, why should a job NOT throw their resume in the garbage where it belongs? Do you really think I'm going to pay attention to an email from someone who writes like a drat 6 year old? Areas of Expertise -Data Integrity/Disaster Recovery -Risk Assessment / Impact Analysis -Contingency Planning -The Needful -Team and Project Leadership Mattavist fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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I'm still laughing at someone using the word cromulent. I can't help but imagine a couple rich dudes with monacles, sipping tea and talking about how the market is "very cromulent, indeed."
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Please tell me more about how dialectical differences are 'bad English'.
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Ozz81 posted:No, people need to learn to use proper English grammar like an adult. Anyone that falls back on "bad English is the norm now", especially to continue using lovely, lazy grammar, deserves to be laughed at like the idiot they are. If someone can't even bother to spell properly or put a sentence together, why should a job NOT throw their resume in the garbage where it belongs? Do you really think I'm going to pay attention to an email from someone who writes like a drat 6 year old? You sound like a right laugh at parties.
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Actually,
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vOv posted:Please tell me more about how dialectical differences are 'bad English'. Maybe the dumbest argument in all of this subforum.
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You guys are making me feel really good about my life right now.
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I don't know about you guys, but I went and updated my LinkedIn to include "The Needful" on my list of skills.
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Ozz81 posted:No, people need to learn to use proper English grammar like an adult. Anyone that falls back on "bad English is the norm now", especially to continue using lovely, lazy grammar, deserves to be laughed at like the idiot they are. If someone can't even bother to spell properly or put a sentence together, why should a job NOT throw their resume in the garbage where it belongs? Do you really think I'm going to pay attention to an email from someone who writes like a drat 6 year old? Sure, if their resume is filled with poo poo toss it in the bin. And if their ticket is unreadable put it on the bottom of the pile. But it still needs to be taken care of at some point. Saying you aren't going to do the job because they misspelled a word is a good way to be out on your rear end looking for a new one. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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My personal problem with do the needful is it quite often comes from a an email with recursive fwd:s and re:s, every single entry either impossible to understand or with no relevant information, then it gets dumped in your inbox/queue cc'd to your manager as if it is your responsibility. Please revert on the same.
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ooh ooh ooh ooh here let me be the one to say it criticising non-NAmerican/EU people for saying "do the needful" is racist and you should check your privilege 
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Re: Re: A ticket came in: Someone did the needful
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Re: Re: A ticket came in: Autism won
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:criticising non-NAmerican/EU people for saying "do the needful" is racist and you should check your privilege this but unironically Some people in here have badly misinterpreted this shiboleth and think that the ticket to being alpha goon forums posters is to characterize "The Needful" as outright degeneracy instead of just some stupid cliché. One guy was even like, "it come from a ~certain asian country~" like he wants us to connect the dots on it being the product of a lesser culture.
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Brits and Americans used to use "do the needful" plenty in the early 20th century. It's just outdated, not incorrect.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:ooh ooh ooh ooh here let me be the one to say it Criticizing others for their privilege is pretty privileged
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Eikre posted:this but unironically "do the needful" is a product of a lesser culture though, that culture is just british
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Languages are living, they mean what we agree that they mean, multitudes of exceptions, perfectly cromulent, etc etc etc. It was interesting to have to explain to my parents what "please do the needful" meant, though.
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What's with all these defenders coming out of the woodworks all of a sudden?  Everyone's been in agreement for 690 pages and a bunch of other threads that it's an obnoxious phrase iconic of lovely bosses.
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Volmarias posted:Languages are living, they mean what we agree that they mean, multitudes of exceptions, perfectly cromulent, etc etc etc. By that very definition 'do the needful' is a bad phrase to use, then, because the vast majority of us agree that it is dumb and wrong.
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Sounds like this thread needs a toxx for a certain phrase  Mods, Kindly do the needful. 
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I just submitted the following ticket to my ISP:quote:You have something weird going on with your geo-location. When I go to google maps on my laptop, it's defaulting me to Athens. When I go on Tinder on my phone, it's showing me a bunch of Greek women. They're very attractive but also very far away. I hope whoever answers gets a smile out of it at least.
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NZAmoeba posted:I just submitted the following ticket to my ISP:
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