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Rygar201 posted:Clinton's raw and sustained contempt of the press is one of her best qualities, to be frank. You know who else had raw and sustained contempt for the press? That's right. Richard M. Nixon.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I just slammed a gun into a locker. A (gun) locker is an excellent place for a gun, but please be gentle.
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Sucrose posted:Biden can't win? Why not? If Hillary can win, Biden can most certainly win, he's better liked. And the Republican side is all jokers. Biden ran for President in 1988 and got wiped out by a big plagarism scandal (which would still effect him in 2016, but isn't talked about at all at the moment). His 2008 campaign was a trainwreck of gaffes (which are charming when you occupy a ceremonial political position but pretty bad when you're running to be Commander in Chief) and he didn't even make 1% in the Iowa caucus. And he has literally no campaign infrastructure right now. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's only past presidential campaign was able to go toe-to-toe with Barack Obama, an amazingly capable politician. And she has a shitton of campaign infrastructure and PAC money in all the early states. And she has more flexibility with regard to connecting herself to Obama (see her denying the TPP) while Biden will pretty much have to own Obama's record as his own.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:You know who else had raw and sustained contempt for the press? And he's got a great twitter! Swell guy, that Nixon/
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ComradeCosmobot posted:You know who else had raw and sustained contempt for the press? The last liberal president? Sounds like a good quality to have then.
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Oct 12, 2015 02:42
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Nintendo Kid posted:I just slammed a gun into a locker. Is it too early to think about Clinton running mates? Clinton/ VP for life Diamond Joe? Clinton / Castro? Clinton / Bloomberg?
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Oct 12, 2015 02:49
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Biden should of course be Vice President For Life, and the first third and fourth term VP ever. He just doesn't need to run a failed presidential campaign to get that.
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it doesn't make a lot of sense for lots of reasons i guess but I'd be happy voting for a Clinton/Sanders ticket 
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What if Castro could turn Texas blue though?
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Y'all need to watch this here 60 Minutes interview with Barrack Obama The Bear is Loose and it is Good.
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Ron Jeremy posted:What if Castro could turn Texas blue though? I don't think that would happen, there are enough Hispanic voters there but their turnout is very low and from my understanding the Texas Democratic party is very inept. I think there would need to be a serious, coordinated and well run effort to get these voters registered if they want to actually turn Texas blue rather than just talking about it.
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Ron Jeremy posted:What if Castro could turn Texas blue though? No, but it'd be really cool. Also Biden is a cool guy but the only times he's different than Clinton it's usually him going to the right of her. There's a reason he has never even come close to being a real candidate until The Woman was an option and made some power player's assholes clench.
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Ron Jeremy posted:What if Castro could turn Texas blue though? If Castro can cripple or execute enough Texas Republicans int he right ways at the right times to do that for 2016, then I say he should get a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Oct 12, 2015 03:07
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Rygar201 posted:Y'all need to watch this here 60 Minutes interview with Barrack Obama Kraft is a real dick here. There's this weird sort of aggressive tone to him as if he's attacking instead of interviewing. It doesn't help that Obama has a very calm, measured, slow way of talking (probably to keep him from speaking without thinking), which runs counter to how most people want him to answer questions. I'm so used to hearing GOP candidates talk like a machine gun. I was looking at Twitter during the airing this evening, and it was, predictably, split right down between people who hate Obama and think he's evil/a monster/an idiot, and people who think that Obama is cool. After the interview, there was a story about Glen Ford, who was on Death Row for 30 years before new evidence came out that showed he was innocent. The DA who put him there was very remorseful and will probably think about what he did for the rest of his life, but the current DA, who let him out, is a world-class rear end in a top hat who thinks we need to kill more people in prison, and that innocent people being locked up get justice when they get out, so there's no need to compensate them. Ford was owed $300,000 for his imprisonment, and was denied it because the DA claims he was aware of the robbery that happened the night of the murder he didn't commit, so he didn't deserve it. They did, however, give him a $20 gift card on his way out for his troubles. He got a nice meal of fried chicken, and then a short while later got diagnosed with lung cancer and passed away 3 weeks after he was interviewed for this bit. He died penniless, and his funeral was paid for by donations from his church. The DA has a history of being terrible, he was featured in a New Yorker article earlier this year. Basically he works in a super racist area, and wants to kill everyone he can who gets convicted of a proper crime, because society is disintegrating. What a fucker.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Why's he going to do any better in this primary campaign? Especially waiting until like 3 weeks before the first democratic primary deadlines to start running? Between this and the last primary he won both the VP debates, which were both a pretty big deal. If anything, he's a fighter. And he's already proven that. Job Truniht fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:What if Castro could turn Texas blue though? He can't as a vice president, but running for president after two terms as vice president? 
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Job Truniht posted:Between this and the last primary he won both the VP debates, which were both a pretty big deal. If anything, he's a fighter. And he's already proven that. Winning Vice Presidential debates against two of the dumbest VP candidates in Republican history is no sort of evidence he can win against anybody but Webb in the current primary.
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Oct 12, 2015 03:21
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Ron Jeremy posted:What if Castro could turn Texas blue though? Castro is the classic Clinton pick because it shores up her weaknesses and leads directly into a Young Hispanic President which the GOP have no answer for.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Winning Vice Presidential debates against two of the dumbest VP candidates in Republican history is no sort of evidence he can win against anybody but Webb in the current primary. agreed. in many ways Paul Ryan did worse than Palin did during the debates, which is definitely rather hilarious considering they all pretend he's some sort of ~intellectual heavyweight~
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I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe
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nachos posted:I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe Ratings
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nachos posted:I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe Hating Hillary, Headlines.
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nachos posted:I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe computer parts posted:1. Horserace
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nachos posted:I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe You answered your own question there.
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Oct 12, 2015 03:34
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hangedman1984 posted:Anyone know somewhere that will be streaming the debate tuesday? CNN is streaming the whole thing on their website. It's free and there will be no need to verify you have cable or anything like that.
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Oct 12, 2015 03:49
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computer parts posted:Castro is the classic Clinton pick because it shores up her weaknesses and leads directly into a Young Hispanic President which the GOP have no answer for. Really I genuinely think all that dude needs to be a top level guy is a shot in the arm from something like the Clinton machine, so yea if he can ride that to success rock on Castro.
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Sucrose posted:So is Biden gonna jump into the race or what? Also, why isn't everyone and their mother pushing Biden to enter the race?
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FlamingLiberal posted:The NYT desperately wants him to run. They've run about one front page article per day the last 3-4 weeks about how 'Clinton's people are scared of a potential Biden run' and 'Biden's advisors putting out feelers for a run' and very vague things like that with sources that are all off-the-record. To be fair the NYT just wants Literally Anyone But Hillary to run. I genuinely wouldn't be shocked if during the election proper they straight up endorsed the republican.
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nachos posted:I don't know why the media is so loving obsessed with Joe Biden running when they've spent the last 8 years calling him the gaffiest gaffe to ever gaffe
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Tatum Girlparts posted:To be fair the NYT just wants Literally Anyone But Hillary to run. I genuinely wouldn't be shocked if during the election proper they straight up endorsed the republican.
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While I still doubt Biden winds up jumping in, bear in mind one thing: The person who leaked Joe and Beau's death bed conversation (where Beau urged him to run) was Joe. You don't do that if you're sure you won't jump in.
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Rygar201 posted:Ratings This. Hillary's answers to presser questions are stuff that won't ever give the news anything to gawk at on the morning/sunday shows. They're tailored expertly to be as inoffensive and bland as possible while taking an actual position (e.g. not like Walker's "I'll punt on that one" poo poo) while the news channels need some kind of controversy or horse race to get eyeballs on commercials. There's no way they could ever squeeze viewer interest out of following Hillary but they know people will tune the gently caress in if they are told there might be an upset. Hence all of the stuff about Bernard and Biden and emails.
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FAUXTON posted:This. Hillary's answers to presser questions are stuff that won't ever give the news anything to gawk at on the morning/sunday shows. They're tailored expertly to be as inoffensive and bland as possible while taking an actual position (e.g. not like Walker's "I'll punt on that one" poo poo) while the news channels need some kind of controversy or horse race to get eyeballs on commercials. There's no way they could ever squeeze viewer interest out of following Hillary but they know people will tune the gently caress in if they are told there might be an upset. Hence all of the stuff about Bernard and Biden and emails. Can't blame Hillary for not wanting to be an exhibit in the dog and pony show yet, though. There's less than no points to be won this far out.
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The funniest part is that the media is accepting that no one will take the other 3 Democrats actually running seriously.Epic High Five posted:Why does the press hate Hillary so much? She knows how to play them from Bill's career. And that gets them so mad.
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Epic High Five posted:Why does the press hate Hillary so much? "The Press" is varied on her, with a lot of their problems being kinda hilarious entitled 'she doesn't let us in 24/7' stuff. The New York Times hates literally anyone with the last name Clinton to the point where I'm positive if given a chance they'd run a George Clinton hit piece.
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Nintendo Kid posted:The funniest part is that the media is accepting that no one will take the other 3 Democrats actually running seriously. I no joke can't name the third unless you're counting Sanders.
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Epic High Five posted:Why does the press hate Hillary so much? She's the reason Bill got that blowie.
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