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Melian Dialogue posted:Christ, the military is the only organization that so loving fetishes its processes to the point that this is the way to go because its "military values". God i hate the Military so loving much, its 90% manchildren and weird fetishists all the way up. Pretty sure this is the only way we can convince the rest of the country that we're "taking the problem seriously" after General Tommy made those off-colour comments this summer.
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Oct 3, 2015 00:11
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No, y'know what's going to change the system? loving charge parades. A lot of them. "You sexually harassed a subordinate? Immediate reduction in rank." "You did it again? Congrats on your Big Chicken Dinner." You sexually harass a co-worker in ANY OTHER FIELD and you wanna bet how fast your rear end would be on the unemployment line? But because it's HOOAH ARMY STRONG there's some leeway. No. gently caress that.
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Oct 3, 2015 00:16
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Someone on this page has never been to Ottawa. Nobody gets charged for poo poo here.
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Oct 3, 2015 00:47
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flakeloaf posted:Someone on this page has never been to Ottawa. Nobody gets charged for poo poo here. The hub of our top heavy military doesn't receive the same quantity of charges everyone else does? Wowza 
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Oct 3, 2015 00:52
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acumen posted:loving 2 CFFTS, 15 Wing Moose Jaw.
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Oct 3, 2015 01:28
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Every air force unit. At every level. Jeezus, I'm getting tired of reading these order sets.
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Oct 3, 2015 04:22
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I guess that's what happens when the order states that EVERY commander needs to write their own, specific orders relating to the CDS direction, orders that needed to be blessed by several (many) layers above before being further promulgated. I'm holding out for the sweet wristbands that will be in an offensive shade of pink, be a mandatory purchase, come out in 2019 due to procurement issues, and be made by some factory in Quebec that existed solely to fulfil the contract to make the lovely things in the first place. #NoTIMMYCF
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Oct 3, 2015 09:22
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Don't forget about how shoddy they'll be made and probably give rashes and cancer.
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Oct 3, 2015 18:41
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Oh for gently caress's sake. Athabaskan blew an engine. Again.
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Oct 7, 2015 14:20
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Apply more duct tape.
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Oct 7, 2015 14:36
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Why even pretend to have a navy? We need funding to even have the illusion of sovereignty.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:54
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Anyone know anything about EGS tech?
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Oct 7, 2015 17:53
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Has anyone here ever had to do another swim test after BMQ (other than changing trades, etc).
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Oct 8, 2015 00:10
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BIG NORTH posted:Has anyone here ever had to do another swim test after BMQ (other than changing trades, etc). I'd heard that it was part of the JTF-2 qualification until they tossed it cause they were losing too many good assaulters in the pool.
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Oct 8, 2015 02:22
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If you are posted to a ship you will re-qualify for sea survival periodically (in the pool), and you have to do a sea survival course if you are aircrew (in the ocean, and pool). Both are mostly just floating though, not swimming as such. Also getting dragged behind boats in the air force one. Other circumstances, I dunno, but there is no general annual swimming re-qualification for Forces members.
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Oct 8, 2015 02:54
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We did them almost every year in 3RCR.
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Oct 8, 2015 05:22
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I remember it was required for pers interested in CSOR. But if they removed the need for JTF2 they might have done the same for CSOR.
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Oct 8, 2015 10:26
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Yeah, back in the infantry mo days we did it on our BIQ/DP2 cause of the boat stuff, and then anytime we had guys going out on a boat they had to be swim tested (within a year I think?)
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Oct 8, 2015 12:34
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We did swim testing at 1 CER once before a unit sponsored canoe trip under the guise of adventure training. It would have been great but the canoe with all of our beer flipped and people kept trying to vulture my whiskey. I miss the army sometimes. I mostly miss being able to tell people who need to shut the gently caress up to shut the gently caress up and not have them get all sensitive about it. Sometimes you just need to shut the gently caress up it's no big deal I ain't mad.
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Oct 9, 2015 04:56
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BIG NORTH posted:Has anyone here ever had to do another swim test after BMQ (other than changing trades, etc). As part of training for the Ironman.
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Oct 9, 2015 22:28
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For some dumb river-crossing exercise. We had a guy too fat to climb out of the pool unaided. Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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Oct 9, 2015 22:45
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Samu I hope the idiot that dumped that boat was found hanging from his nuts the next morning Also you gotta spread that precious cargo between boats.
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Oct 12, 2015 04:55
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Graduating next April and was considering going DEO, but it seems like NCM get to do more cool poo poo but I'd like to tell myself i got a degree for a good reason dammit
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Oct 14, 2015 19:43
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SuperSix posted:Graduating next April and was considering going DEO, but it seems like NCM get to do more cool poo poo It was to get paid more money, have a better pension, and be entitled to a better quality of life at literally every stage in your career.
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Oct 14, 2015 19:55
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I thought "Don't Enlist with a Degree" was the unofficial motto of GiP. e: Started dating a RCAF O. She gets paid x3 more than me to supervise two people and present a power point once a week.
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Oct 14, 2015 19:59
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Holy poo poo, never enlist with a degree. Jesus christ, don't be stupid and caught up in the "glamour" of being badass or whatever. As an NCM: we're all loving stupid retards who think our "salt of the earth" shtick makes our common sense better than an actual education or logic or any other modicum of thought. Unless you're interested in a technical NCM position and don't want to be in a leadership role right away, go DEO.
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Oct 14, 2015 20:08
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Melian Dialogue posted:Holy poo poo, never enlist with a degree. Jesus christ, don't be stupid and caught up in the "glamour" of being badass or whatever. Oh god okay thank you all for convincing me it's a bad idea. Although the reason isn't far off what I posted. The technical aspects of my degree (Geography/GIS) is pretty much only applicable to Geo tech, and Algonquin doesn't sound so bad considering I'm from Ottawa originally. Otherwise I'd have to pursue my pirating dreams and apply for MARS or LogO because my vision is no bueno by like a fraction so I wouldn't actually qualify to do actually cool/boring poo poo like combat arms SuperSix fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 20:20
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I hear GeoTech isnt bad because the trades training system in it sounds fantastic* (in that its run by an actual real school and not some bullshit "Centre of Excellence" run by mouth breathing retards in standards teaching off a master plan from the 1930s) and that you get a diploma afterwards. But, I can't comment on the actual working culture is like there. I imagine though if you did lots of GIS in your degree then the 2 year diploma they do might be below what you already know (though I can't say for certain). Algonquin has the details of the course on their website. *Can you imagine if Int had a 5A that was run by an actual university or college too? Holy christ, you'd actually get training that was useful than "lets sketch over a digitized map with coloured markers even though we have an entire trade who could literally check a checkmark off in arcGIS and print you an overlay" Melian Dialogue fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 20:38
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I was an infantry NCM and got to do a whole bunch of really cool poo poo, learned a lot about myself, gained a lot of confidence, and had excellent work experience that landed me a great job civilian side. ymmv I guess
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Oct 14, 2015 20:44
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Melian Dialogue posted:I hear GeoTech isnt bad because the trades training system in it sounds fantastic* (in that its run by an actual real school and not some bullshit "Centre of Excellence" run by mouth breathing retards in standards teaching off a master plan from the 1930s) and that you get a diploma afterwards. stop it you're triggering me
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Oct 14, 2015 21:16
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It was more a response to his first comment than anything else. I'm aware pretty much every other enlisted trade does sweet gently caress all. Degrees mean jack poo poo nowadays though and we had tons of NCMs in my unit with them - work/life experience is much more meaningful. VV I'm a police dispatcher acumen fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 22:05
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What kind of sweet civvy job did infantry get you?
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Oct 15, 2015 01:42
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acumen posted:
Sure, I agree objectively life experience and work experience can be much more meaningful, but you can't say a degree is worth poo poo when so many jobs have that as a bare minimum for application or competitiveness. Sure, a degree doesnt guarantee you a sick job, but lots of sick jobs require a degree.
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Oct 16, 2015 04:44
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The complaints about another Decade of Darkness have already started.  I wonder what "Traditions" the Tories would have brought back if they stayed in charge. Now that all 3 services have unique ranks and insignia, I was afraid Side/Peaked caps might make a come-back. One of my buddies unironically bitched that he probably won't get "trigger time" in Iraq or Syria now.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:24
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I'm getting those too. Even when I left the regs four years ago they were receiving catastrophic budget cuts. That same year we didn't even have enough .338 ammo to run annual quals on the C14's. Anyone know if Leslie's got a shot at becoming Minister of National Defense? I'm still hoping he just bips NDHQ.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:41
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acumen posted:I'm getting those too. Even when I left the regs four years ago they were receiving catastrophic budget cuts. That same year we didn't even have enough .338 ammo to run annual quals on the C14's. I can't imagine anyone else in the Liberal party with the kind of pedigree that Leslie would have as MND. Definitely one of the most positive aspects of the election as far as I'm concerned. Leslie was spot-on about his assessment of the top-heaviness of the CAF and its endless array of HQs and Captains making $90k doing a Corporal's job
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Oct 21, 2015 00:07
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Conventional wisdom says that he won't be MND, because as a very recent ex-general he'll be seen as too close to the CAF to be objective.
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Oct 21, 2015 02:43
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I don't think we have to worry about a dude whose last report can be summed up with "Burn it all down" being too close to the establishment. Besides, we had ex Brigadier Gordon O'Connor as MND and everyone taught what a fine idea that was.
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MA-Horus posted:Samu I hope the idiot that dumped that boat was found hanging from his nuts the next morning It was the loving troop commander and troop warrants canoe. Don't get me wrong everyone brought their own booze but the personal stuff lasted like 2 nights. They didn't want us to have the beer because they thought we'd just get blotto'd, which was true, but don't flip the canoe. The warrant kept joking about how all the beer was weighing down their canoe without realising the beer was weighing down their god drat canoe.
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