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various cheeses posted:If that guy is supposed to be your gotcha then lol. That guy is an absolute piece of poo poo and deserves to be removed from society and does not represent me at all. I don't leave my house unlocked like bait in a trap. I'm minding my own business in my locked home, not lying in wait like a trapdoor spider. I don't think they're bloodthirsty murderers, generally, I think they're largely cowards with fantasies of getting to kill someone, since it makes them feel strong.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:What the hell? Effectronica posted:So all they have to do to get in is set up a honey trap and steal all your stuff while you're still scrambling to untangle your pants. Or just shoot you, as all criminals do, while you're attempting coitus interruptus. Very smart move on your part.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:22
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The only way to be really safe is to shove the gun up your rear end whenever you need to be naked, and have it in your hands, safety off, whenever you're on the toilet. The pro-gun dweebs in this thread are pikers.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:23
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Rent-A-Cop posted:This is why I have practiced until I can draw a hammerless j-frame from my own rectum in one smooth motion. a hammerless j-frame is a weird thing to call an argument dude
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Oct 13, 2015 22:23
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Effectronica posted:The only way to be really safe is to shove the gun up your rear end thousands of red-blooded flag waving americans do this every year, but the anus is inconveniently located and far from the brainstem, so they tend to use their mouths instead
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Oct 13, 2015 22:24
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Literally The Worst posted:hey lemme you in on something: he wasn't about to shoot you for fun Hmm sounds rational, except he did actually take a shot at me as I was running away Funny how criminal gun owners get the benefit of the doubt, but lawful gun owners are just waiting to commit murder
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Oct 13, 2015 22:25
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Popular Thug Drink posted:thousands of red-blooded flag waving americans do this every year, but the anus is inconveniently located and far from the brainstem, so they tend to use their mouths instead They're the real heroes here, frankly, and I salute them.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:25
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Where do you keep yours? I don't have a gun, I don't need one since I live in a country where they are largely and rightly considered unnecessary and dangerous.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:25
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SedanChair posted:Funny how criminal gun owners get the benefit of the doubt, but lawful gun owners are just waiting to commit murder well, statistically,
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Oct 13, 2015 22:27
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SedanChair posted:Hmm sounds rational, except he did actually take a shot at me as I was running away i promise you, he wasn't just like "you know what'd be cool? upgrading robbery to murder". he did it because you ran and he thought you had more on you, i guarnatee it was not "for kicks"
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Oct 13, 2015 22:27
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I've rechambered an AR-15 for .50 BMG so that in case a roving gang of crooks tries to ram my house, I can shoot out their engine block and then pop them all one-by-one as they run out.
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Literally The Worst posted:i promise you, he wasn't just like "you know what'd be cool? upgrading robbery to murder". he did it because you ran and he thought you had more on you, i guarnatee it was not "for kicks" well i mean if you were holding out on the robber then yeah, you had it coming
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Oct 13, 2015 22:28
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Effectronica posted:The only way to be really safe is to shove the gun up your rear end whenever you need to be naked, and have it in your hands, safety off, whenever you're on the toilet. The pro-gun dweebs in this thread are pikers. I also keep an M72 under the bed in case it turns out my partner was really a BMP-2 the whole time. Fool me once...
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Oct 13, 2015 22:29
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Literally The Worst posted:i promise you, he wasn't just like "you know what'd be cool? upgrading robbery to murder". he did it because you ran and he thought you had more on you, i guarnatee it was not "for kicks" hahaha he did it because I had more on me "what a lovely drop" he muses to himself as he rifles through my corpse's pockets
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Oct 13, 2015 22:30
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Rent-A-Cop posted:
Again this is a question coming from a genuine place, but isn't that true for Castle Doctrine laws and such too, then? I mean, both are saying 'this guy did this thing, he's worth less as a human and can be killed without problem'. Why does a citizen doing it make the act more legitimate than the state?
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Oct 13, 2015 22:30
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Snowman Crossing posted:well i mean if you were holding out on the robber then yeah, you had it coming the least he could have done was to give the address of the dude he was delivering to, because said dude, expecting pizza, would have opened his door with cash in his hands
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Oct 13, 2015 22:30
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Life is basically Dungeons and Dragons, and the urban/suburban encounter table reads 1-19: Criminals 20: Law-abiding citizen
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Oct 13, 2015 22:31
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SedanChair posted:hahaha he did it because I had more on me Tatum Girlparts posted:Again this is a question coming from a genuine place, but isn't that true for Castle Doctrine laws and such too, then? I mean, both are saying 'this guy did this thing, he's worth less as a human and can be killed without problem'. Why does a citizen doing it make the act more legitimate than the state?
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Oct 13, 2015 22:31
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rent-a-cop doesn't it make you self-conscious that your j-frame doesn't have a hammer I've got the model 649, that means if it ever comes down to you and me dueling at 160 yards over the last can of dinty moore on earth, I've got an advantage
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Snowman Crossing posted:well i mean if you were holding out on the robber then yeah, you had it coming this is not what i'm saying at all dipshit SedanChair posted:hahaha he did it because I had more on me that is in fact why, yes, unless you think all criminals are just itchin for a chance to face murder charges
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Oct 13, 2015 22:31
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Because it's less likely to get caught, and you have more time to remove valuable items from the premises? The courts have generally ruled that if you are home, you do not need to have a personal weapon completely disassembled and locked in a safe in a secret room down a hidden passage which requires you to negotiate a gauntlet of obstacles to get to.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:32
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"That guy cut me off because he wanted to rape me." "He did not cut you off because of that." "Oh, so he was right to cut me off? Huh? Huh?"
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Oct 13, 2015 22:33
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-Troika- posted:The courts have generally ruled that if you are home, you do not need to have a personal weapon completely disassembled and locked in a safe in a secret room down a hidden passage which requires you to negotiate a gauntlet of obstacles to get to. it's a good thing its possible to store a gun safely without doing that then
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Oct 13, 2015 22:33
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SedanChair posted:rent-a-cop doesn't it make you self-conscious that your j-frame doesn't have a hammer gently caress roaming the wasteland battling bandits for rat meat. I'll just sit back, crack a beer, and let the nukes fall where they may.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:34
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-Troika- posted:The courts have generally ruled that if you are home, you do not need to have a personal weapon completely disassembled and locked in a safe in a secret room down a hidden passage which requires you to negotiate a gauntlet of obstacles to get to. It's a shame that they haven't rendered an opinion criminalizing dishonesty, because then you'd be in for a hell of a time.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:34
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Rent-A-Cop posted:ITT Richie Rich and friends richsplain to us poor slobs how if we don't want to get murdered we should hire Blackwater. I mean I would think if you cared about it enough to equip yourself with deadly force you would do some other stuff too but also I would think getting a gun and learning how to use it effectively would cost you more than some window bars and a door reinforcement kit but maybe I'm wrong
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So hey another question because I just remembered an event I was at a while back. It was a gun event, one of those 'we're here to talk about self defense but also totally sell you on a gun/nra membership' type things, and the dude running it, I don't remember if he said he was from the NRA or anything but he had a hat and poo poo which I'm told by King of the Hill is basically a badge here in Texas. Anyway, his whole thing on home defense was that you get your gun, lock your door, call the cops, and tell the invader that you called the cops and are armed, and wait for the cops to show up. This is what all you guys are talking about when you talk about using a gun to defend yourself, right? I mean, in most cases of gun self defense the gun isn't even fired, so, you guys working into a froth here are all planning to, as plan A, use your gun as a threat deterrent before a weapon, right?
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Oct 13, 2015 22:40
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I think you're supposed to also work up to a half chub in the meantime thinking about what happens if the criminal breaks in.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:42
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So hey another question because I just remembered an event I was at a while back. It was a gun event, one of those 'we're here to talk about self defense but also totally sell you on a gun/nra membership' type things, and the dude running it, I don't remember if he said he was from the NRA or anything but he had a hat and poo poo which I'm told by King of the Hill is basically a badge here in Texas. Anyway, his whole thing on home defense was that you get your gun, lock your door, call the cops, and tell the invader that you called the cops and are armed, and wait for the cops to show up. maybe
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Oct 13, 2015 22:43
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Monkey Fracas posted:I mean I would think if you cared about it enough to equip yourself with deadly force you would do some other stuff too but Most people end up paying between $500 and $1200 for window bars, depending on where they live. A reinforced door and frame (no point having one without the other) runs more than that. This is assuming you actually own your home and arn't just renting, in which case welp too bad you probably can't do any renovations. A Glock 17, one of the more popular handguns in the US, generally runs between $400 and $600 bucks. e: Also a home security system can run anywhere between $300 and $1800 on average.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:44
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So hey another question because I just remembered an event I was at a while back. It was a gun event, one of those 'we're here to talk about self defense but also totally sell you on a gun/nra membership' type things, and the dude running it, I don't remember if he said he was from the NRA or anything but he had a hat and poo poo which I'm told by King of the Hill is basically a badge here in Texas. Anyway, his whole thing on home defense was that you get your gun, lock your door, call the cops, and tell the invader that you called the cops and are armed, and wait for the cops to show up. Yeah I posted a link to this effect and it was superbly ignored by the new heroes of our time. http://www.crimedoctor.com/homeinvasion.htm
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Oct 13, 2015 22:44
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Charles Bronson would never hide behind a door.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:46
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-Troika- posted:Most people end up paying between $500 and $1200 for window bars, depending on where they live. A reinforced door and frame (no point having one without the other) runs more than that. This is assuming you actually own your home and arn't just renting, in which case welp too bad you probably can't do any renovations. you can get a knife for fifty bucks, or a dog for free, and both of those are equally effective at murdering, as i've been told by people who say how restricting access to guns won't stop mass murders not that i want to restrict gun ownership of course, too many americans exercise their rights every year for me to stand in their way. i'm just looking out for your bottom line in these hard times
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-Troika- posted:
The subtle but unmistakable hint that you will not be practicing an ounce of responsibility regarding your firearm ownership. Sweet.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:48
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So hey another question because I just remembered an event I was at a while back. It was a gun event, one of those 'we're here to talk about self defense but also totally sell you on a gun/nra membership' type things, and the dude running it, I don't remember if he said he was from the NRA or anything but he had a hat and poo poo which I'm told by King of the Hill is basically a badge here in Texas. Anyway, his whole thing on home defense was that you get your gun, lock your door, call the cops, and tell the invader that you called the cops and are armed, and wait for the cops to show up. Actually, that's when you press the remote that detonates the TV while playing the "Welcome to prime time, bitch!" clip from Nightmare on Elm Street. Or the one that rolls down shutters and floods your home with deadly levels of carbon dioxide whole you sit snug in SCBA gear until they're dead.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:49
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So hey another question because I just remembered an event I was at a while back. It was a gun event, one of those 'we're here to talk about self defense but also totally sell you on a gun/nra membership' type things, and the dude running it, I don't remember if he said he was from the NRA or anything but he had a hat and poo poo which I'm told by King of the Hill is basically a badge here in Texas. Anyway, his whole thing on home defense was that you get your gun, lock your door, call the cops, and tell the invader that you called the cops and are armed, and wait for the cops to show up. That's what you do in this state if you want to completely indemnify yourself from possible criminal charges if you use deadly force against the intruder, yes.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:This is what all you guys are talking about when you talk about using a gun to defend yourself, right? I mean, in most cases of gun self defense the gun isn't even fired, so, you guys working into a froth here are all planning to, as plan A, use your gun as a threat deterrent before a weapon, right? Effectronica posted:Actually, that's when you press the remote that detonates the TV while playing the "Welcome to prime time, bitch!" clip from Nightmare on Elm Street.
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Oct 13, 2015 22:53
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I can't speak for anyone else, but yeah Plan A is lock the door, call the cops, and hope they decide to actually show up. are you talking about a home invasion scenario or the far more common self-directed self defense
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Oct 13, 2015 22:55
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Popular Thug Drink posted:are you talking about a home invasion scenario or the far more common self-directed self defense
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Literally The Worst posted:i promise you, he wasn't just like "you know what'd be cool? upgrading robbery to murder". he did it because you ran and he thought you had more on you, i guarnatee it was not "for kicks" Yeah sedanchair. Shame on you for making that poor criminal's job harder by not giving him ALL of your money. Truly the world is mad when we flock to the Internet to defend people committing armed robbery.
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