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So Michigan has objectively some of the worst roads in the country. Seriously, the road to and from Detroit Metro Airport looks like it belongs in some third world poo poo hole. Our legislature's solution was to have the people of Michigan vote on an increase in the sales/gas tax to pay for road repairs. It was rejected by an overwhelming margin. The general message to Lansing was "do your f***ing job". Let's see how its going: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/10/13/gov-snyder-michigans-road-funding-talks-impasse/73869510/ Oh 
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FAUXTON posted:No that was/is "Red Eye." Red Eye was fun to watch when you were drunk/stoned and wanted to watch something deplorable at 2 am. This was also when Greg Gutfeld was the host. I swear, that dude is a singularity of rear end in a top hat. He will also always be awesome because he let this happen like 10 times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwnHaslci9E
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Eschers Basement posted:For the current atmosphere? That's just stupid. "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." Remember the things the tea party wants and refuses to compromise over are effectively a series of measures to shut down the government one way or another. Reagan is the godfather of today's political climate, though perhaps not its tactics.
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SquadronROE posted:Is there a thread for the debate? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3746531
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computer parts posted:Also arguably the Fairness Doctrine would be used today for things like Climate Change Denial or Creationism. Technically the former has that benefit (equal coverage) and the latter isn't exactly maligned either.
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computer parts posted:No, still a pretty good example unless you think parties vote in lockstep. I cited it as an example about how switching party control doesn't end previous policies because of that kind of problem, so yeah, it still isn't showing what you think it does The Iron Rose posted:We aren't Canada, we, by design, have significantly weakened party discipline. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst, but it's unarguably more democratic. Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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So 3 former republicans, 1 independent, 1 guy who pissed off every element of the base. Welcome to the democratic debate! I always forget how much Lincoln Chaffee looks like Senator Palpatine in the prequels
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:So Michigan has objectively some of the worst roads in the country. Seriously, the road to and from Detroit Metro Airport looks like it belongs in some third world poo poo hole. A flat tax on gas basically takes the money for fixing the roads right out of the pockets of the middle and lower-middle class. I want the roads fixed, bad, but I wasn't voting for that.
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Sucrose posted:A flat tax on gas basically takes the money for fixing the roads right out of the pockets of the middle and lower-middle class. I want the roads fixed, bad, but I wasn't voting for that. Yeah, same. They tried to sweeten it by bringing back the EITC but that wasn't enough to justify my vote. I'm glad that a lot of the people I know were fussing about "why can't businesses pay more, it's the drat semis tearing up the roads".
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USPOL October: "Do you want to respond?" "No"
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Fried Chicken posted:I cited it as an example about how switching party control doesn't end previous policies because of that kind of problem, so yeah, it still isn't showing what you think it does I used your example as a tangent to talk about separation of powers.
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computer parts posted:I used your example as a tangent to talk about separation of powers. Then this whole bit is my exhausted rear end talking past you and missing the point. Apologies.
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Fried Chicken posted:USPOL October: "Do you want to respond?" "No" USPOL October: "I didn't know what I was doing."
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euphronius posted:They all laid the seeds of the modern GOP. They are the founding fathers. But much our actual founding fathers, they ignore what they actually believed and just project onto them
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I think Hillary "won" that debate. Bernie really improved in the second half, but still.
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FourLeaf posted:I think Hillary "won" that debate. Bernie really improved in the second half, but still. Hillary did very well at rallying her base and generally betting good at debating but I noticed a handful of really easy soundbites that will be taken out of context and used in attack ads.
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Hillary won the debate, not by a huge margin but she dismissed some of the issues that have dogged her and made a good case for her candidacy. While Bernie also did well, he really didn't provide the outstanding performance he needed to overcome Clinton dominance. I will, however, be interested in seeing if Bernie gains any minority supporters from his statements tonight. Then there was the clownshow in the background.
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What in the gently caress was Lincoln Chafee doing there. Have you ever seen someone who's fumble-loving up so bad that you are so embarrassed for them you just want it to be over so you don't have to see them fumble-loving up anymore? That was him every single time he spoke; I was just mumbling "shutupshutp" and wishing he could get off camera and not get called on again. Was he aware there was a debate tonight, or did he get told about it an hour before the cameras came on? 
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QuoProQuid posted:Hillary won the debate, not by a huge margin but she dismissed some of the issues that have dogged her and made a good case for her candidacy. While Bernie also did well, he really didn't provide the outstanding performance he needed to overcome Clinton dominance. I will, however, be interested in seeing if Bernie gains any minority supporters from his statements tonight. It looks like "enough with the drat emails" is going to be the takeaway line in the media covering the debate, so that may give him a visibility boost.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Hillary did very well at rallying her base and generally betting good at debating but I noticed a handful of really easy soundbites that will be taken out of context and used in attack ads. "How will your presidency be different than just a third Obama term?" "Well, I think that's pretty obvious, a woman president would be different!"
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I still don't know who those other 3 losers are or why they're allowed to be onstage when they're all polling under %1.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:14
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God drat, imagine your entire life as a politician reduced to a punchline.
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I love shootin guns
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JonathonSpectre posted:What in the gently caress was Lincoln Chafee doing there. Have you ever seen someone who's fumble-loving up so bad that you are so embarrassed for them you just want it to be over so you don't have to see them fumble-loving up anymore? That was him every single time he spoke; I was just mumbling "shutupshutp" and wishing he could get off camera and not get called on again. Was he aware there was a debate tonight, or did he get told about it an hour before the cameras came on? But the metric system! 
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JonathonSpectre posted:What in the gently caress was Lincoln Chafee doing there. Have you ever seen someone who's fumble-loving up so bad that you are so embarrassed for them you just want it to be over so you don't have to see them fumble-loving up anymore? That was him every single time he spoke; I was just mumbling "shutupshutp" and wishing he could get off camera and not get called on again. Was he aware there was a debate tonight, or did he get told about it an hour before the cameras came on?  "Why did you vote for this awful thing?" "Well you know I just got there and my dad died..."Christ that was painful. I wish Cooper would've just asked him to leave because that was some comically bad excuse-making.
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VirtualStranger posted:I still don't know who those other 3 losers are or why they're allowed to be onstage when they're all polling under %1. The media demands a horse race. Sanders doesn't count, because he's not a centrist.
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It's like Jeb Bush fumble-loving up that Iraq question again, and again, and again. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN I'D BE ASKED ABOUT THIS, CURSES!
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JonathonSpectre posted:What in the gently caress was Lincoln Chafee doing there. Have you ever seen someone who's fumble-loving up so bad that you are so embarrassed for them you just want it to be over so you don't have to see them fumble-loving up anymore? That was him every single time he spoke; I was just mumbling "shutupshutp" and wishing he could get off camera and not get called on again. Was he aware there was a debate tonight, or did he get told about it an hour before the cameras came on? 
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foobardog posted:But the metric system! Is here to stay
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That debate was pretty terrible honestly. Hillary and Bernie both gave very mixed, shaky performances, and the other three were just annoying background noise.
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VirtualStranger posted:I still don't know who those other 3 losers are or why they're allowed to be onstage when they're all polling under %1. Jim Webb killed a man to be on that stage.
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I have witnessed all of the my liberal friends talking about how much they were impressed with MoM. O-MENTUM HAS BEGUN!
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Someone on facebook just called CNN the Communist News Network and they weren't being ironic. I love America.
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smg77 posted:Jim Webb killed a man to be on that stage. Well at least he has the gumption to be on that stage.
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Disappointed the thread title isn't "I'm a block of granite!". 
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