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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I have witnessed all of the my liberal friends talking about how much they were impressed with MoM. Well he is the only one to have a character in The Wire created after him. As long as you don't ask which character, that almost sounds really good.
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smg77 posted:Jim Webb killed a man to be on that stage. This is why I love this place.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Feel the Bern: I can't think of a more useless metric than google searches.
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Yeah they have a known bias against the metric system.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:41
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I can't think of a more useless metric than google searches. What is it supposed to measure? What kind of idiot googles Hillary Clinton?
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You need to aggregate data from both Google and The Google if you want to capture the entire age spectrum of interests in the candidates vis a vis internet searches
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Oct 14, 2015 04:46
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XyrlocShammypants posted:You need to aggregate data from both Google and The Google if you want to capture the entire age spectrum of interests in the candidates vis a vis internet searches Also, searches mistakenly typed into facebook entry fields by the elderly.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:49
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I want to know which person got more tweets
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Oct 14, 2015 04:54
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VirtualStranger posted:I still don't know who those other 3 losers are or why they're allowed to be onstage when they're all polling under %1. Martin O'Malley is a backup Clinton, in case she and presumably Sanders are struck by a meteor.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:54
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Martin O'Malley is a backup Clinton, in case she and presumably Sanders are struck by a meteor. That's a weird way to spell Joe Biden
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Oct 14, 2015 04:55
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I can't think of a more useless metric than google searches. Internet searches for boobs was 5,000 and nailin Palin was at around 2.8M.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:56
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zoux posted:What is it supposed to measure? What kind of idiot googles Hillary Clinton? well if Sander's goal for the debate was to gain visibility then people going "well who IS this crazy grandpa, he sounds interesting" is a good metric.
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Oct 14, 2015 04:56
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Trabisnikof posted:That's a weird way to spell Joe Biden The Republicans already lost one establishmentarian and another is sinking beneath the waves, what if that happened to the Democrats? 
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Oct 14, 2015 04:57
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Zeroisanumber posted:
Pretty sure Sanders mentioned carbon taxes. Either him or O'Malley
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Trabisnikof posted:I want to know which person got more tweets Trump
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pretty sure Sanders mentioned carbon taxes. Either him or O'Malley He absolutely said democratic socialist
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Oct 14, 2015 04:59
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TPP was mentioned by Hillary several times to differentiate herself from Obama.
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Oct 14, 2015 05:01
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Clinton gave the kind of performance you'd expect given her history. Very much the calm, practiced delivery of acceptably "centrist" answers and applause lines, in control of her presence almost the entire time. The few times she wasn't were interesting, but not the "flub" kind of interesting that the press cares about (mainly I'm thinking of her unsuccessfully trying to jump in a few times, her staring daggers in the beginning, and the few flat denials when people tried to engage her where she didn't want/plan to) Webb was god awful. I was actually pulling for him because I thought his anti-hawk position would be good to air out but he tossed that over the side and then just gave a horrible performance. Chaffee was bad but no worse than most of the GOP right up until that answer, my god that was terrible. Just holy cow. O'Malley wasn't great but still better than most of the Republican field, really stressed "in my state I did" with about everything; also worth noting that if you subscribe to the idea he is running for a cabinet position then he did very well. Sanders gave, for what little the subjective statement this is is worth, a very authentic performance. His style of dress for the evening and body language came across as un-polished as Clinton (or O'Malley if you want a better analog) were polished, which I suspect was a deliberate choice to serve as a contrast (which would make is very polished when you think about it). If there had been as many eyeballs on this as the GOP or an insurgent at >30% should get it could have been a breakthrough, but as it wasn't either of those the bar for breakthrough was higher and he didn't clear it. Like Clinton, very on-message and delivered his applause lines well. Also gave the line that will probably be repeated the most both sides of the press both in covering the debate and the emails. He is going to be in for a while longer I still would have liked Lessig up there, as he couldn't have been any worse than Webb and more focus on the corruption of power going on now is always good.
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Does anyone else think that Hillary skidded and burnt out in the final words of the debate when speaking after Bernie? All she had to do is say that money was a corrupt influence in politics, just make one non-vague reference to any issue, and she failed to do so. Bernie Sanders rocked it. I'm interested to see what happens to his campaign after tonight.
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Jim Webb's enemy is a man he killed. His ghost still haunts him. His first act as President is going to be to invade the afterlife.
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Does anyone else think that Hillary skidded and burnt out in the final words of the debate when speaking after Bernie? Anderson Cooper: "Secretary Clinton do you want to respond?" Hillary Clinton: "No."  It's the sequel of "Please Proceed, Governor".
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Jim Webb's enemy is a man he killed. His ghost still haunts him. I'd be interested to hear Dick Cheney's view on this, what with his role as a liminal entity straddling the thin boundary between life and death.
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:Does anyone else think that Hillary skidded and burnt out in the final words of the debate when speaking after Bernie? I wouldn't say she burnt out, but her performance in the later half of the debate, including her closing statement, were definitely indicative of her ultimately milquetoast positions in comparison to Sanders. I was still impressed by how polished she was (no poo poo, she's a national politician who's done this for years), but Sanders is also definitely going to be around for quite a bit longer and that makes me really happy.  (In short I agree with Fried Chicken.)
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fade5 posted:I think Democratic Socialist came up at the very start of the debate. "I represented Wall Street" is a dream line for anyone cutting an attack ad.
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zoux posted:Their moms, sisters, wives, daughters and mistresses are women. They aren't terrified by women. Those women know their place and are the 'good ones.'
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Oct 14, 2015 05:20
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Lprsti99 posted:"How will your presidency be different than just a third Obama term?" I dunno, she name-dropped Obama enough that I began to believe she was trying very hard to create that association. Also, Webb: in addition to acting like a ninny about equal time, why did he keep bringing up Vietnam?
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Went to a Bernie debate watch and every one there hated Clinton. No one knew who O'malley was at the being but by the end he was the second favorite. Chafee had a good start but then turned embarrassing during the second round. Webb got some praise but was generally boring. He is much to war hawkish as well for a Dem.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I dunno, she name-dropped Obama enough that I began to believe she was trying very hard to create that association. The timing legitimately wasn't fair, for anyone. Hillary definitely wanted to talk more than the others (which is good), but she didn't really have a choice either. Sanders same.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pretty sure Sanders mentioned carbon taxes. Either him or O'Malley I was drinking and kinda gave up when it looked like I was going to fill in every square.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:I dunno, she name-dropped Obama enough that I began to believe she was trying very hard to create that association.
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Pretty much everyone saw in that debate what they wanted to see. Both Clinton and Sanders gave decent performances. Webb bitching in the debate about not getting enough speaking time came across to me as kinda whiny. I mean we've got 3 candidates who are lucky when a poll comes out with 5 points between them combined. The idea that they should get 60% of the speaking time at the debate seems wrong. Now I'm not suggesting they should go 60/35/2/2/1 in their time division, but if Webb or Chafee or O'Malley get half as much speaking time as Clinton or Sanders I don't think that's unreasonable. They should still be given an opportunity to make a splash and get noticed, but equal time is a dumb rule.
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So is the Freedom Caucus' position on the debt ceiling still "only if we also defund PP" or has it switched to "Debt? Debt! DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBT!"
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Jackson Taus posted:Pretty much everyone saw in that debate what they wanted to see. Both Clinton and Sanders gave decent performances. Yeah but wasn't there an entire span between commercials where Chafee got no time at all? I mean that's merciful in a way but still.
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Lincoln Chafee man, what a horrible answer. He totally undermined his opening and closing statements in one terrible, terrible gaffe.
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Kobayashi posted:Lincoln Chafee man, what a horrible answer. He totally undermined his opening and closing statements in one terrible, terrible gaffe. Strategically targeting the weenie contingent.
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Anyone got a link or summary of what Chafee did to gaffe so badly for those who didn't watch the debate?
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Anyone got a link or summary of what Chafee did to gaffe so badly for those who didn't watch the debate? He blamed a poor vote on Glass-Steagall on it being "his first day" and that his dad had just died.
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Anyone got a link or summary of what Chafee did to gaffe so badly for those who didn't watch the debate?
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Pick posted:He blamed a poor vote on Glass-Steagall on it being "his first day" and that his dad had just died. Wow. Good job, Chafee. 
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