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wooger posted:But why are any apps which aren't audio players / messaging / VoIP apps, or used very recently, even running in the background at all?
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wooger posted:But why are any apps which aren't audio players / messaging / VoIP apps, or used very recently, even running in the background at all? How do you think things like push notifications work?
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Oct 13, 2015 16:41
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I was having great Doze experience until I decided to use a live wallpaper (Shape Swap LWP to be exact): battery life cratered yesterday but the battery graph didn't even list it. I uninstalled it last night and went back to a static wallpaper and today has been good thus far.  ?
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tvgm2 posted:I was having great Doze experience until I decided to use a live wallpaper (Shape Swap LWP to be exact): battery life cratered yesterday but the battery graph didn't even list it. I uninstalled it last night and went back to a static wallpaper and today has been good thus far. Pretty sure Live Wallpapers are only active when you're actively looking at them on your homescreen(s). I've used live wallpapers since like 2009 and have never had my battery life suffer in any meaningful way because of them. Some other app/process probably went rogue I'm guessing.
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Pretty sure Live Wallpapers are only active when you're actively looking at them on your homescreen(s). I've used live wallpapers since like 2009 and have never had my battery life suffer in any meaningful way because of them. Some other app/process probably went rogue I'm guessing. I thought as much, but it just seemed too coincidental. The big culprit was Android OS. TVGM fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 17:03
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tvgm2 posted:I thought as much, but it just seemed too coincidental. The big culprit was Android OS. Live wallpapers show up in the battery stats screen as what they are, not Android OS IIRC. Sounds like something else was going crazy in the background.
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Oct 13, 2015 17:19
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People have been asking about the new Nexus reviews. This video popped up today and it's the first person I've seen who actually unboxed the device. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv3DhQKral8
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Oct 13, 2015 20:32
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He unboxed the 5X as well - confirms you don't get a USB A-to-C if there was any doubt. This channel has various videos shot on both devices too.
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Oct 13, 2015 20:40
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Got my Diztronic 5x case today. Almost identical in width to the Moto X 2014, about a centimeter taller. The camera only sticks out by a couple of millimeters, it's much shallower than it looked in pictures of the phone. Weirdly there's little slits above and below (while looking at it flat on a desk) the power and up/down volume button bump outs, and the material is a little white there like it's been stressed. My Nexus 4 and X 2014 cases didn't have that, is that something they've started doing or a manufacturing defect?
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Oct 13, 2015 20:51
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EDIT: Nevermind, it was some other update. It was optimizing for a good 15 minutes straight, so I was sure it was Marshmallow. Disappointed now.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:07
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Mnemosyne posted:EDIT: Nevermind, it was some other update. It was optimizing for a good 15 minutes straight, so I was sure it was Marshmallow. Disappointed now. Check again for updates. There's a security patch that came right before my Marshmallow update.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:25
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Audio quality on the recordings is much better on the 6p if that is important to anyone.
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Oct 13, 2015 21:43
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Does anyone know why both the 6P and 5X are for sale in stores in India weeks before they've even started shipping in the US?
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Super Dude posted:How do you think things like push notifications work? What *needs* to send push notifications other than the app types I mentioned? But besides, I thought push worked via a Google services API, and can wake up the app for you when you respond, very similar to the system Apple has always used on iOS.
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wooger posted:But besides, I thought push worked via a Google services API, and can wake up the app for you when you respond, very similar to the system Apple has always used on iOS. Best practice to. Supposed to. But not mandatory. Plenty of apps still use their own message notification system either through polling or trying to maintain a constant connection.
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wooger posted:But why are any apps which aren't audio players / messaging / VoIP apps, or used very recently, even running in the background at all? Apps are free to run background services and schedule jobs to do processing tasks and things like syncing, usually so they can be up to date and responsive when you need them, provide notifications for certain events, whatever. I can't really find any detail, but I think Doze is more about forcing apps onto the 'be considerate' scheduling system they introduced with lollipop. The idea was you could specifically mark your jobs as flexible, and the system could batch them together and do everything at a suitable time. This seems to be along the same lines, but being much more aggressive about deferring unused apps and making them low priority At the end of the day it's up to the apps themselves what they do with the system (some stuff is important and needs to be able to run whenever it wants). I reckon Google needs to add a name and shame system to be honest - it's all very well saying apps shouldn't use priority stuff if they don't need it, but users need to be able to tell what's misbehaving
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baka kaba posted:I reckon Google needs to add a name and shame system to be honest - it's all very well saying apps shouldn't use priority stuff if they don't need it, but users need to be able to tell what's misbehaving Agree completely. It doesn't help that the battery usage page has gotten less and less useful over the last two android releases, while at the same time google *stuff* has been showing up higher and higher in the battery usage lists. I'd say also that in addition to per app permissions,I'd welcome the addition of iOS style flags to disable background updates / activity per app. My Twitter app fetching updates on some schedule is fine. Facebook or a game doing anything is not.
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Red Warrior posted:Got my Diztronic 5x case today. Almost identical in width to the Moto X 2014, about a centimeter taller. The camera only sticks out by a couple of millimeters, it's much shallower than it looked in pictures of the phone. Are they making a case for the 6p? Are there any cases on Amazon that don't screw up the camera? Super Dude fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Oct 13, 2015 23:45
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wooger posted:I'd say also that in addition to per app permissions,I'd welcome the addition of iOS style flags to disable background updates / activity per app. My Twitter app fetching updates on some schedule is fine. Facebook or a game doing anything is not.
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Tunga posted:You can disable per-app background data usage in Settings -> Data usage -> <app>. But will that prevent it from trying?
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Super Dude posted:Are they making a case for the 6p? Are there any cases on Amazon that don't screw up the camera? There are some at store.google.com. I did find that if you preorder a 6p and sign up for Project Fi, they will send you a 50% off coupon for a case. Still probably cheaper ones at Amazon, but if you want to be sure it works correctly, go with the Google ones for now.
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Eventually the battery stats screen will only have one thing listed and it will simply be title "Battery Drain" and we'll all reminisce about the days of the past while telling our children stories of battery stats breakdowns of yesteryear.
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Silly Burrito posted:There are some at store.google.com. I did find that if you preorder a 6p and sign up for Project Fi, they will send you a 50% off coupon for a case. Still probably cheaper ones at Amazon, but if you want to be sure it works correctly, go with the Google ones for now. The case is estimated to get here after the phone. 
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XIII posted:Eventually the battery stats screen will only have one thing listed and it will simply be title "Battery Drain" and we'll all reminisce about the days of the past while telling our children stories of battery stats breakdowns of yesteryear. Wasn't this the plot of NBC's Revolution?
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Apple-iPhone-6s-review-Solid-and-compelling-performance There we have it folks. Apple has been dethroned in camera quality. They make the top ten, but just by rounding out ranks 8,9, and 10. Android is now the camera king.
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How do I get Hangouts messages to react to priority settings the same way it treats SMS messages? For instance, at 11pm, notifications turns to priority and it works for calls and SMS, but regular Hangouts messages are still coming from everyone: even though I use the hangouts app for both.
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beerinator posted:Does anyone know why both the 6P and 5X are for sale in stores in India weeks before they've even started shipping in the US? 
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India is closer to where they're made, so they probably dropped them off on the way!
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I updated my N5 to M, and updated Hangouts to 5.0. Now my loving texts all come in at once like every three hours. I have a job where I schedule with multiple employees, and am sometimes getting cancellations mere minutes in advance. This is unacceptable to me. I suspect it's because of the new Doze thing? This is one of the few times I've actually been pissed off at an Android update. Can I fix this by switching to Messenger, or some system setting?
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nocal posted:I updated my N5 to M, and updated Hangouts to 5.0. Now my loving texts all come in at once like every three hours. I have a job where I schedule with multiple employees, and am sometimes getting cancellations mere minutes in advance. This is unacceptable to me. I suspect it's because of the new Doze thing? This is one of the few times I've actually been pissed off at an Android update. Settings > Apps > gear icon > Battery optimization > Not optimized pulldown > All apps > Hangouts > Don't optimize Hoping this convoluted selection fixes my "must receive texts in a timely manner" edge case.
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beerinator posted:Does anyone know why both the 6P and 5X are for sale in stores in India weeks before they've even started shipping in the US? Also why is there just one dude's rushed unboxing video? Camera comparisons, battery life, and information on whether the 810 makes the phone explode in flames would be great.
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Tunga posted:You can disable per-app background data usage in Settings -> Data usage -> <app>. Only works for mobile networks, does nothing when you're on WiFi.
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One more small thing that's come out of that Indian preview event, you can open the camera on the new Nexuses with the wrist twist action as well as the previously known double tapping power. Nice to see Google bringing over that shortcut from Motorola. I'd love it if it had the tomahawk chop flashlight action as well. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...e-power-button/
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Red Warrior posted:One more small thing that's come out of that Indian preview event, you can open the camera on the new Nexuses with the wrist twist action as well as the previously known double tapping power. Nice to see Google bringing over that shortcut from Motorola. I'd love it if it had the tomahawk chop flashlight action as well. Bringing over the 2-3 things I'd actually miss from my Moto X to the 6p makes me happy
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Just flashed the 6.0 factory image with a complete wipe, and as part of the setup, I went about setting each app (and several contacts) to have their own custom sounds just as I had with 5.1.1. The problem is that the phone is just playing the default system-wide notification sound for everything, even though the setting seems to "stick" (i.e., when I go back into the settings for each app, it still has my custom choice set as the sound for that app and/or contact). This is happening with Gmail and Hangouts, but ringtones seem to work fine. Anyone else run into this problem?
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bull3964 posted:http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Apple-iPhone-6s-review-Solid-and-compelling-performance that list is kind of silly. the Nexus 6, for example, might under certain conditions take pictures similar in quality to an iPhone but there is a marked difference in real-world usability between them. Hardly a 82/78 comparison.
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this_is_hard posted:that list is kind of silly. the Nexus 6, for example, might under certain conditions take pictures similar in quality to an iPhone but there is a marked difference in real-world usability between them. Hardly a 82/78 comparison. It really isn't though if you are going to objectively look at the hardware. Here's a little secret, most people out there are terrible photographers. I've certainly seen my share of out of focus, noisy, blown out, or motion blurred iPhone photos on my Facebook feed. The camera software does help people take better pictures sometimes, but it's not a panacea. When we get to the level of hardware we are at across the board for flagship camera phones, it's time to start looking at the loose nut behind the lens and realize that ANY of these models should give you top notch results.
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I'm out of Android and sold my Nexus 6. So buy my Tylt Vu, wireless charging-ailures!  http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3746277&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post451315776
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