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Nintendo Kid posted:OK, lunatic yes i'm crazy for not taking at face value the word of a career politician. totally wild stuff.
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Lotka Volterra posted:its easy to reconcile when you realize that people with MDs are as much biologists as construction workers are physicists Construction workers don't diss Newton
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JFairfax posted:I have a hard time reconciling the fact that someone is neurosurgeon with that very same person saying that charles darwin was possessed by a spooky ghost doing the devils work.
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Sudo Echo posted:yeah bud this is the part that I have trouble believing I wish I could believe that Hillary isn't against Medicare for All, or that she wouldn't throw Edward Snowden to the dogs, or that she wouldn't take a hawkish stance on Iran and Syria, or that she wouldn't carry water for Wall Street, or that she actually will Legalize Weed, or that she will make college tuition free instead of preserving the massive tuition costs and predatory student loans system.
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Hillary did well enough. The one big slip I'd hit her for is that "proudest enemy" question at the end: saying "the far right-wing" would've been a lot better answer than "Republicans". Bernie was Bernie and was awesome. I love you, Bernie. O'Malley is begging to be VP. Jim Webb is the last living Blue Dog, and no longer matters. I did love his "I killed a guy, lol" response, though. Lincoln Chafee needed a big giant hook to drag him offstage, or a gong, or a bucket of slime, or anything to just make him stop talking. "It was my first day" is not a good excuse for anything.
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GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:I guess but who's to say when she'll flip her opinion? She'll flip it when it's convenient to flip it, hopefully it's in alignment with when I want her to flip (i.e. marijuana, soon).
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Oct 14, 2015 06:22
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lincoln chafees campaign slogan is horns.aiff
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Sudo Echo posted:yes i'm crazy for not taking at face value the word of a career politician. totally wild stuff. You went quite a bit beyond that
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rezatahs posted:he is a brain surgeon and a highly skilled one at that but he is also somehow super retarded on anything outside brain surgery this isn't that weird if you interact with a lot of doctors, and I'm not just talking about GP's, I know a speciality MD who watchs the O'Reilly factor nightly and believes in that kid who said he died and went to heaven or whatever, assorted other craziness etc.
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Sudo Echo posted:yes i'm crazy for not taking at face value the word of a career politician. totally wild stuff. A former mayor and current senator isn't a career politician though?
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Oct 14, 2015 06:25
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Construction workers don't diss Newton good point, construction workers probably have a greater understanding of the world around them
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I felt like Bernie Sanders could have done better in tonights debate, but at the same time I wonder how many people felt the same way I did about Hillary. Which is that everything she said was a sidestep to a question or a canned pre-programmed robotic response/talking point. It was like watching a commercial where the spokesperson is a really bad actor. edit: My stream was shoddy, but did Sanders ever call Hilary out on the fact that she's taking millions of dollars in campaign donations from big banks?
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I wonder if any of the bottom 3 will pull out of the margins of error?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A former mayor and current senator isn't a career politician though? He didn't break a million as a politician so he's a public servant thanks for trying
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Oct 14, 2015 06:26
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Nintendo Kid posted:I wonder if any of the bottom 3 will pull out of the margins of error? o'malley will hit 10% if god loves him more than jesus
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Oct 14, 2015 06:27
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A former mayor and current senator isn't a career politician though? Yeah Bernie Sanders has been doing politics for a living longer than any one else on that stage lmbo
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Nintendo Kid posted:You went quite a bit beyond that really? explain it for me
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Ace of Baes posted:this isn't that weird if you interact with a lot of doctors, and I'm not just talking about GP's, I know a speciality MD who watchs the O'Reilly factor nightly and believes in that kid who said he died and went to heaven or whatever, assorted other craziness etc. poo poo most people probably have that one oddball in their family who holds a "smart" job at a high level of rank/renown/accomplishment but is a crazed moron otherwise. Mine is a Freeper despite everything on paper about them suggesting they'd not be a lunatic outside of their profession but 
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Sudo Echo posted:really? explain it for me It's interesting how you pretend not to remember your own stupid words.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yeah Bernie Sanders has been doing politics for a living longer than any one else on that stage lmbo Yes because when people express dissatisfaction in career politicians it's just the length of time served that is the problem and not the approach to the job or ties to special interests that anyone cares about
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Oct 14, 2015 06:29
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i just saw the chaffee clip and holy gently caress
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Oct 14, 2015 06:29
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Ban fishmench please.
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Oct 14, 2015 06:30
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's interesting how you pretend not to remember your own stupid words. Hilary is the establishment candidate in this election I am certain of it.
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Boomstick Quaid posted:Yes because when people express dissatisfaction in career politicians it's just the length of time served that is the problem and not the approach to the job or ties to special interests that anyone cares about Hey consider this: say the thing you supposedly meant the first time, instead of being a gently caress up? Also lol at whining at special interests like some stooge.
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Oct 14, 2015 06:31
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crazy eights posted:fishmench heh
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's interesting how you pretend not to remember your own stupid words. most people would interpret my posts as "i feel bernie sanders is more trustworthy than hillary clinton" but I want to hear your take on it
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Oct 14, 2015 06:32
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Nintendo Kid posted:Hey consider this: say the thing you supposedly meant the first time, instead of being a gently caress up? why must you do this, why can't you use your powers on someone who deserves it?
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Ace of Baes posted:I felt like Bernie Sanders could have done better in tonights debate, but at the same time I wonder how many people felt the same way I did about Hillary. Which is that everything she said was a sidestep to a question or a canned pre-programmed robotic response/talking point. It was like watching a commercial where the spokesperson is a really bad actor. From what I remember, if he did it wasn't directly. I think he said in his closing statement that he was averaging 30 bucks a donor, so I guess you could interpret that as an indirect dig. Hillary's tendency to go for canned responses was especially awful during her closing statement, which was so vague and rehearsed it sounded like the kind of speech a Popular Politician makes in pulp fiction. The way she exploited her gender for substance was especially offensive. Having a woman as Chief Executive lost any substantive appeal in itself after Thatcher and Merkel.
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Ace of Baes posted:I felt like Bernie Sanders could have done better in tonights debate, but at the same time I wonder how many people felt the same way I did about Hillary. Which is that everything she said was a sidestep to a question or a canned pre-programmed robotic response/talking point. It was like watching a commercial where the spokesperson is a really bad actor. Bernie is what he is, I don't think the man has an ounce of guile in him. His answers tonight were mostly straight out of his stump speeches. Right now everyone is mostly playing nice, but once the margin of error guys disappear and Hillary's camp starts hitting at Bernie the gloves will come off.
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crazy eights posted:Ban fishmench please. fishmensch indeed
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Sudo Echo posted:most people would interpret my posts as "i feel bernie sanders is more trustworthy than hillary clinton" but I want to hear your take on it No they wouldn't and you know it
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crazy eights posted:Ban fishmench please. nah
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Boomstick Quaid posted:Yes because when people express dissatisfaction in career politicians it's just the length of time served that is the problem and not the approach to the job or ties to special interests that anyone cares about if that's the case then don't disparge politicians by using a word that expressly implies that them having spent their career in politics is "the problem"
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Ace of Baes posted:I felt like Bernie Sanders could have done better in tonights debate, but at the same time I wonder how many people felt the same way I did about Hillary. Which is that everything she said was a sidestep to a question or a canned pre-programmed robotic response/talking point. It was like watching a commercial where the spokesperson is a really bad actor. All he said was that he's the only candidate with no Super PAC. He doesn't go on the offensive, it's not his style.
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The accusations of "Hillary plants" in the crowd are ridiculous to me but I think you would have to be deaf not to notice she had the majority of support in the room. I'm a Sanders supporter but you can bet if Hillary wins the nomination I will be supporting her and voting for her. I think it's funny there's a guy pretending she is horrifically bad in this thread as if President Donald J. Trump or a third Bush would be the better alternative. There are always people willing to toss their votes away in the election though I guess. FWIW I'm still not sure Sanders will have even registered for the vast majority of people who didn't know who he was before the debate. Hillary didn't bomb and I think that's what your mothers/grandparents are going to walk away from this with. Webb's "my greatest enemy was the guy who grenaded me, glad he's not around today" answer was stone cold badass and again lol at the guy who said it wasn't badass because "we shouldn't have been in Vietnam." Maybe Rambo shouldn't have killed so many people too but he's still loving badass. Also if someone threw a grenade at you and he wasn't your greatest enemy I would wonder just how many people you've pissed off and what those other people did to you to put them higher.
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Nintendo Kid posted:No they wouldn't and you know it if I didn't then why would i make that post god you're dumb
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Aliquid posted:i just saw the chaffee clip and holy gently caress i think i'll be laughing at that moment until the election is over
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skaboomizzy posted:Bernie is what he is, I don't think the man has an ounce of guile in him. His answers tonight were mostly straight out of his stump speeches. the crucial difference is this, Hilary believes in the American Empire, she's been a part of it on the inside in the 'war on terror' etc etc, she's bought into the military industrial complex lock stock and barrel. She wants to be a strong leader of an imperial power. Sanders, as far as I can tell, sees that this road is dangerous and feels that American might is not always right.
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