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I can't believe I forgot about the "taking candy from a baby" line. That poo poo is gold. I also like how even in the worst Sonic games, Eggman is still consistently amazing.
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That song, by the way, is "Entrance of the Gladiators" by Julius Fucik, a remarkably appropriate name for this game.
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Oct 14, 2015 06:59
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I can't believe Shadow is less humane than Akuma.
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Oct 14, 2015 07:07
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It's really bothering me that shadow's good power is basically never useful for anything except the neutral path.
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Oct 14, 2015 13:22
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Augus posted:I also like how even in the worst Sonic games, Eggman is still consistently amazing. Eggman's voice actor Mike Pollock is a blessing upon the Sonic series. I'm glad the executives at Sega were smart enough to keep him even after several cast overhauls.
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Oct 14, 2015 23:45
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Mike Pollock is the only VA who started on Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic X to still be with the series today, and I think that's pretty telling.
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Oct 15, 2015 00:57
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I really love the contrast of Sonic still being as earnest and 90's-kid-cool as he's always been in this game trying so hard to be dark and edgy.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:41
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So... uh.... I guess we just forgot all about the ongoing alien invasion? Now we're getting the stolen rings back from Eggman's illegal casino? Is that... going to matter when the monster calling itself BLACK DOOM literally destroys the world??
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Oct 15, 2015 05:55
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Oct 16, 2015 02:46
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Wait, why does Disney's Cinderella show up at that cutscene at the end there? Why does Shadow know her? What's going on here? I'm so confused. (Also watching this LP puts me to sleep. Like, I have to switch to another tab and just listen to stay awake, the gameplay is that boring.)
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Oct 17, 2015 20:44
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Xenoveritas posted:Wait, why does Disney's Cinderella show up at that cutscene at the end there? Why does Shadow know her? What's going on here? I'm so confused. There's a bunch of Stupid Lore poo poo going on here but the short version is that Disney's Cinderella is Eggman's cousin with some kind of nebulous degenerative disorder which is slowly killing her but doesn't make her look sickly at all because she has to be pretty even though she's like 13 and I can think of zero non-creepy reasons to insist a 13-year-old look pretty when she's sick and dying, and literally everything even remotely related to Shadow and his existence is either equipment for or a byproduct of Gerald's experiments to cure her; a bit like how, in Portal, if you follow the chain of decisionmaking far back enough, the Portal gun somehow arose from developing a better shower curtain.
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Oct 17, 2015 22:19
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Xenoveritas posted:Wait, why does Disney's Cinderella show up at that cutscene at the end there? Why does Shadow know her? What's going on here? I'm so confused. she's gerald's daughter and they used to hang out cause they lived on a weird space station together
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Oct 17, 2015 22:39
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Fortunately Maria was never killed by her undisclosed terminal illness, because she was gunned down by random soldiers instead
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Oct 18, 2015 01:36
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Augus posted:Fortunately Maria was never killed by her undisclosed terminal illness, because she was gunned down by random soldiers instead Random unnamed soldier is a hero, fighting disease like that. Some say he went too far. I say he didn't go too far enough.
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Mr Tastee posted:I can't believe Shadow is less humane than Akuma. Hey, Shadow would steal candy from a baby and that's totally cool because babies shouldn't be having sugar anyway, but I don't think he'd be doing "karate" combos on them like everything else.
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Oct 18, 2015 07:02
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shadow the hedgehog fanart: my life's work
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Oct 18, 2015 07:13
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alcharagia posted:Mike Pollock is the only VA who started on Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic X to still be with the series today, and I think that's pretty telling. Sega knows Eggman is the best character in the series and Mike Pollock has made him more popular than ever before, so replacing him would be pretty terrible.
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Eggman was awesome in Sonic Unleashed. He's just having so much fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqHxGoFERZw
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BioEnchanted posted:Eggman was awesome in Sonic Unleashed. He's just having so much fun! Don't forget his sandwich button. I wish I had one of those.
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Oct 18, 2015 08:24
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The most meticulously modelled sandwich in video game history. I wanna eat that sandwich. Than again all the food in that game looked loving amazing. That icecream...
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Oct 18, 2015 08:35
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corn in the bible posted:she's gerald's daughter and they used to hang out cause they lived on a weird space station together Granddaughter, but yes.
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Her name is also the default password to everything in GUN and the space station. Not the letters, the syllables.
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PhazonLink posted:Her name is also the default password to everything in GUN and the space station. Well to spell the name 'Maria' in Japanese you would only use three letters: マリア. So this one thing actually makes sense. (The syllabary, not that top secret military computers use a three-character password without numbers or special characters.)
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Lemma posted:Well to spell the name 'Maria' in Japanese you would only use three letters: マリア. So this one thing actually makes sense. (The syllabary, not that top secret military computers use a three-character password without numbers or special characters.)
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FractalSandwich posted:That might be the most realistic and believable thing in the whole Sonic series - there are all kinds of stories from the real world about people in sensitive positions making serious security mistakes. There's a great story in Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! about physical combination locks at military installations - "Safecracker Meets Safecracker". It's also fairly believable that the government would purge a research station by murdering everybody on board but then not take the proper time to dispose of the floating weapon of mass destruction that's pointed at the earth at all times and instead just turning it off and leaving it in orbit. Also believable that they still wouldn't do anything to dispose of it after the first time someone reactivated it and tried to blow up the United States with it.
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FractalSandwich posted:That might be the most realistic and believable thing in the whole Sonic series - there are all kinds of stories from the real world about people in sensitive positions making serious security mistakes. There's a great story in Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! about physical combination locks at military installations - "Safecracker Meets Safecracker". For the longest time, the password on our nuclear warheads, preventing just any chucklehead from arming them and firing them wherever they want, was 00000000.
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Xenoveritas posted:For the longest time, the password on our nuclear warheads, preventing just any chucklehead from arming them and firing them wherever they want, was 00000000. the story is much more complicated than that. the reason it was all 0s was so that it'd be quick to input the code if things got to the point of actually needing to launch anything. there were many, many, many failsafes to prevent an unauthorized launch. unless the "chucklehead" who was going to arm them was somehow both the president and the head of the joint chiefs of staff at once he wasn't going to be arming any nukes. people who recite that as proof that america was BAD AT SECURITY are loving morons.
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Well, yes, you'd have to get to the physical missile in the first place. But the concept was less to prevent random people from firing them off and more to prevent the people who had physical access from firing them - essentially to prevent a Doctor Strangelove scenario where a rogue general goes and nukes some random country. Setting the codes to 00000000 absolutely prevented them from being useful - it's an example of the US first creating a security system and then explicitly avoiding using it.
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corn in the bible posted:the story is much more complicated than that. the reason it was all 0s was so that it'd be quick to input the code if things got to the point of actually needing to launch anything. there were many, many, many failsafes to prevent an unauthorized launch. unless the "chucklehead" who was going to arm them was somehow both the president and the head of the joint chiefs of staff at once he wasn't going to be arming any nukes. people who recite that as proof that america was BAD AT SECURITY are loving morons.
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Oct 20, 2015 08:13
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In any case interceptors flew patrols with live nukes at the pilot's disposal.
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There's an oft-mangled quote from...Ben Franklin, possibly, that basically paraphrases "you can have freedom or security, but not both." It takes a special kind of effort to have neither, for no other reason than that you don't actually understand security.corn in the bible posted:the story is much more complicated than that. the reason it was all 0s was so that it'd be quick to input the code if things got to the point of actually needing to launch anything. there were many, many, many failsafes to prevent an unauthorized launch. unless the "chucklehead" who was going to arm them was somehow both the president and the head of the joint chiefs of staff at once he wasn't going to be arming any nukes. people who recite that as proof that america was BAD AT SECURITY are loving morons. You know, I mean, President Skroob never pretended it was a GOOD code, he just told someone to change it. So take that how you will.
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On the other hand, it does ruin the plot to wargames so its unforgivable.
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SelenicMartian posted:In any case interceptors flew patrols with live nukes at the pilot's disposal. Don't look up Broken Arrow incidents, God knows how many the Soviets had, but it is a terrifying thought looking at the ~35 reported incidents from America alone
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Dr. Strangelove is a really good movie that everybody should watch at least once
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 Update Time! Being a hero is hard work. After all, sloth is a deadly sin and a hero never sins! The Shadow the Hedgehog developers took this to heart and decided to make the second-to-last level of the Hero path one of the most difficult levels in the game. We have to earn our happy ending! And it's not even a very good ending, either.  
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Augus posted:Dr. Strangelove is a really good movie that everybody should watch at least once Gentlemen, please! No fighting in the war room!
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Ugh watching those elevators rise uuuup sloooowly is infuriating
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Oct 20, 2015 23:39
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I am the ultimate hedgehog the most powerful hedgehog it is who i am the ultimate chog
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I have to imagine in that last ending that Black Doom is just standing off to the side in his final boss arena like "uh, Shadow? Shadow? Are we not- I mean you came all this way- are you just going to beat up the blue thing and leave? ...Well okay, back to taking over the world, I guess."
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