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Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
They needed clones modified to be unquestionably loyal to Palpatine so he could do his little coup. I think the basic plot thread with Palpatine could be solid if the execution wasn't hosed up.

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Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

It's going to be pretty hard for someone to come up with a childhood idea for the star wars prequels that's not better than what we actually got.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Elukka posted:

They needed clones modified to be unquestionably loyal to Palpatine so he could do his little coup. I think the basic plot thread with Palpatine could be solid if the execution wasn't hosed up.

but in real life they've done that without clones...

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



A better story would have used clones instead of droids for the separatists. The Republic would have had to muster an army of normal people bolstered by the Jedi. Over the course of the films the Jedi would be obviously superior and the normal rabble grew resentful of their arrogance etc. Sheev uses the populist disgust about the over class to foster a coup and install the Empire.

A soviet film.

cram me sideways
Apr 26, 2015
reminder that disney is a huge loving weiner that flushed literal decades of EU filled with stupid poo poo like knee-sabers and gay hutts because they couldn't handle having that stupid poo poo loving up their richass official canon

that's like buying your old hometown and murdering everyone there so nobody will ever know about that time you poo poo yourself in gym trying to do a pullup

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
if I had the choice of flushing the eu or the prequels I think i'd rather flush the prequels tho

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Acne Rain posted:

if I had the choice of flushing the eu or the prequels I think i'd rather flush the prequels tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3u70WELSEg

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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cram me sideways posted:

reminder that disney is a huge loving weiner that flushed literal decades of EU filled with stupid poo poo like knee-sabers and gay hutts because they couldn't handle having that stupid poo poo loving up their richass official canon

that's like buying your old hometown and murdering everyone there so nobody will ever know about that time you poo poo yourself in gym trying to do a pullup

getting dangerously close to caring about canon itt

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

cram me sideways posted:

reminder that disney is a huge loving weiner that flushed literal decades of EU filled with stupid poo poo like knee-sabers and gay hutts because they couldn't handle having that stupid poo poo loving up their richass official canon

that's like buying your old hometown and murdering everyone there so nobody will ever know about that time you poo poo yourself in gym trying to do a pullup

....How did you know? poo poo, now I need to kill everyone who read this post.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

cram me sideways posted:

reminder that disney is a huge loving weiner that flushed literal decades of EU filled with stupid poo poo like knee-sabers and gay hutts because they couldn't handle having that stupid poo poo loving up their richass official canon

that's like buying your old hometown and murdering everyone there so nobody will ever know about that time you poo poo yourself in gym trying to do a pullup

Did they actually formally say that none of it counts or just that they're ignoring it? Because I can understand not wanting to try and make new movies that fit in with thirty years of poo poo from Kevin J loving Anderson and company.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Fil5000 posted:

Did they actually formally say that none of it counts or just that they're ignoring it? Because I can understand not wanting to try and make new movies that fit in with thirty years of poo poo from Kevin J loving Anderson and company.

Yeah, though apparently some of the new novels have already started reinserting stupid garbage for idiots from the old eu

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


any eu is terrible.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Clonebiwan. :c00lbert:

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Improbable Lobster posted:

Yeah, though apparently some of the new novels have already started reinserting stupid garbage for idiots from the old eu
Can you name some examples? I haven't read any of the new novels and I'm genuinely curious.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Xenomrph posted:

Can you name some examples? I haven't read any of the new novels and I'm genuinely curious.

I know that the Imperial Mutiny, basically the Moffs fighting one another, defecting, or running off to the Outer Rim, does happen between RotJ and Force Awakens and that the First Order descends from that.

Star Wars: Uprising supposedly even hints that the First Order gets their start out on Hoth.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

silvergoose posted:

Clonebiwan. :c00lbert:

OB-One Clone-OB

Trollologist
Mar 3, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I remember when the prequels were first announced and I thought Darth maul was going to be the new Darth Vader and I was psyched to seem him whip rear end with a double saber for three movies, only to see him bite it in his first big showdown.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Rad Lieutenant posted:

I remember some guy in high school insisting that the prequels were going to reveal obiwan as a clone because "dude, obiwan = OB-One. He's just the first version of a bunch of Jedi clones :aaa:"

Clone Obi-Wan was an idea Zahn wanted to use in his Thrawn trilogy but Lucas wouldn't let him. That's where most of that comes from.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


So do any of you use the Star Wars card trader app? It's a p sweet and dumb app to look at cool star wars pics all day

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I do, hit me up if you want to trade cards and poo poo. Username is Xenomrph. I only recently started messing with it so I only have a few hundred cards, but I've been checking it daily so I grab a few packs a day with the free daily credits.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Same. I started about a week and a half ago and luckily managed to get/trade for the whole grey modern set. :3: I'll message you in-game if I can find it.

Even though I can just view any card on the app at any time it still tickles my collector and I've been trading for cool looking inserts

Just sent you a trade for my ESB illustrated. I don't collect them but I like some of the cool looking extras you had

Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 5, 2015

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Mr.Pibbleton posted:

It's going to be pretty hard for someone to come up with a childhood idea for the star wars prequels that's not better than what we actually got.

I just wanted Yoda to fight Palpatine. And it was about what I expected.

655321
Mar 25, 2004

I just finished reading this thread and i no longer know what to do with myself. So much terrible garbage that makes me feel better about my life and decision to never go near the EU, and now.... If I want to find more horrors of the EU, I have to... go find them.... myself..... no.....

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



The vast majority of the EU is garbage, but there's some things that are legitimately fun and cool (the Wraith Squadron books, a bunch of the video games) that you shouldn't deprive yourself of just because "ugh, Star Wars EU".

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Problem is, people include the terrible Thrawn trilogy In there as some paragon of genre fiction. Wraith squadron was great cuz it retained the campy feel of the movies and didn't contribute to the Mary Sue "my characters are better than yours" crap that started with Thrawn. I mean lol an even ~more brilliant~ admiral that learned everything from art pieces? :allears: great idea but horrible execution

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Chill la Chill posted:

Problem is, people include the terrible Thrawn trilogy In there as some paragon of genre fiction. Wraith squadron was great cuz it retained the campy feel of the movies and didn't contribute to the Mary Sue "my characters are better than yours" crap that started with Thrawn. I mean lol an even ~more brilliant~ admiral that learned everything from art pieces? :allears: great idea but horrible execution

The Thrawn TIE Fighter presented was cool. Just a competent military leader who wasn't involved in the internal politics of the Empire. He didn't have magic tactical powers, he just played to his enemy's weaknesses, didn't stick to Imperial doctrine at all times and ended up getting in a neat little "gently caress You" against Zaarin at the very end.

The Thrawn the books gave us was just a really bad Space Rommel

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Oh god imagine if they had made a series of books about a Super-Veers that the 501st could incorporate

(IMO those 501st guys are really just cowards who don't want to don a real SS uniform for "reenactments" )

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



You mean like Star Wars costuming guys? I'm pretty okay with it, but I'm mildly biased. A friend recruited me to dress up as a TIE Fighter pilot for a Halloween festival in Queen Creek a few years back, there were like 30 of us dressed up as random Star Wars storm troopers and pilots and scout troopers and poo poo. Having small children run up to you and shout "STAR WARS!!!!" and hug your leg while you can barely see out of the helmet is hilarious and adorable. :3:

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.

Chill la Chill posted:

(IMO those 501st guys are really just cowards who don't want to don a real SS uniform for "reenactments" )

What's wrong with dressing up as a Stormtrooper? One of my friends is a member and I wouldn't call him a Nazi-wannabe by any stretch. They are chill guys, by my experience. Don't want to fight about it, just curious.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Yeah I've got several friends who are 501st costuming group members, and a lot of them are crazy talented creatively and mechanically. They do charity events, visit sick children in the hospital, etc.

All in all I think they're good people. :shobon:

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


sleepy.eyes posted:

What's wrong with dressing up as a Stormtrooper? One of my friends is a member and I wouldn't call him a Nazi-wannabe by any stretch. They are chill guys, by my experience. Don't want to fight about it, just curious.

I've met a few who were into the "Wehrmacht"/southern pride/rebel flag poo poo and it seemed p cowardly of them to not just go whole hog with it

655321
Mar 25, 2004

Xenomrph posted:

The vast majority of the EU is garbage, but there's some things that are legitimately fun and cool (the Wraith Squadron books, a bunch of the video games) that you shouldn't deprive yourself of just because "ugh, Star Wars EU".

True, I have actually wanted to pick those up recently, and I probably will. I've played quite a few of the video games and have enjoyed them, I just had never considered that they were EU.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Chill la Chill posted:

I've met a few who were into the "Wehrmacht"/southern pride/rebel flag poo poo and it seemed p cowardly of them to not just go whole hog with it
Oh well that's hosed up, for sure.

I mean I'm sure there's some shitheads in the 501st, but in my experience they're largely stand-up people.

655321 posted:

True, I have actually wanted to pick those up recently, and I probably will. I've played quite a few of the video games and have enjoyed them, I just had never considered that they were EU.
Yep, if it's not a movie, it's EU.

It happens less often, but some of more mainstream EU (novels, comics) reference stuff from the games.

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax

Xenomrph posted:

Having small children run up to you and shout "STAR WARS!!!!" and hug your leg while you can barely see out of the helmet is hilarious and adorable. :3:
Someone is campaigning hard for mod/admin I see.


Sure Thrawn trilogy has a ton of silly problems it did bring us Pellaeon who is easily the best character in the whole universe behind Wat Tambor

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Chill la Chill posted:

I've met a few who were into the "Wehrmacht"/southern pride/rebel flag poo poo and it seemed p cowardly of them to not just go whole hog with it

That's what you get for talking to those Southern 501st/RL/Mando Mercs guys. They're weirdos.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Cyberball 2072 posted:

Someone is campaigning hard for mod/admin I see
Wait what?

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

Xenomrph posted:

Yep, if it's not a movie, it's EU.

It happens less often, but some of more mainstream EU (novels, comics) reference stuff from the games.

IIRC, the official stance on games (at least before Disney) is that the stories are canon but the gameplay is not, which makes sense considering how many times major movie events have come up in games and they are played nothing like the movies themselves.

It leads to some pretty hilarious :spergin: to try and make the games fit in with other events.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


You can't make me feel bad for liking the Thrawn trilogy

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

FuturePastNow posted:

You can't make me feel bad for liking the Thrawn trilogy

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luuke_Skywalker

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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:holymoley:

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