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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:still my favorite caricature artist - but can't remember her name now! That's Ann Telnaes I believe.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:35
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Might as well meekly live under occupation forever, then Fighting and dying uselessly to satisfy the revolutionary jollies of keyboard leftists who are not and never will be affected by or effect your struggle is bullshit, and calling for it is the worst sort of narcissism.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:36
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R. Mute posted:I mean, it's not just that it isn't going to happen, but it also wouldn't really be that much of a comfort seeing as things would at most go from very bad and getting worse to fairly bad and slowly getting worse. That's better though. Even if I agreed with this sentence, which I don't, you are saying "this is objectively better and that's bad." To find a satisfactory solution, we need to put a government in place in Israel that could possibly ever think of letting the UN or whoever negotiate a two-state solution, and that won't happen as long as Netanyahu is still in play and this kind of poo poo is red meat for him. Y'know what won't solve the problem? Small-time domestic terrorism that does nothing but get people killed and further cement Likud in power for all eternity
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Zeroisanumber posted:Fighting and dying uselessly to satisfy the revolutionary jollies of keyboard leftists who are not and never will be affected by or effect your struggle is bullshit, and calling for it is the worst sort of narcissism.
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majormonotone posted:
I actually really like this one. It looks like Boehner is 2 seconds away from putting that cigarette out in that guys eye.
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loquacius posted:That's better though. Even if I agreed with this sentence, which I don't, you are saying "this is objectively better and that's bad." I mean, it's not like Israel hasn't had non-Likud governments before. All signs point towards both intifada and a non-right wing government being just about as effective on this front. e: I realise you didn't specifically say a non-right wing government, btw, but a government that might do something to negotiate a two-state solution or whatever, but tbh that's not that far from hoping the intifada will work in terms of realism R. Mute fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I don't think that is actually why Palestinians are fighting. They should be careful tho, might be a warcrime
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D.N. Nation posted:I always go back to this w/r/t Latuff: Ha. He reminds me of some guy I saw take to the audience of a black lives matter protest to advocate his socialist club. Like he's really committed to fighting the good fight but he fits the problems all into a very narrow vision of THE PEOPLE versus THE OPPRESSORS and tries to clumsily fit nuanced and complicated situations into his narrow schema, even when that only sometimes works (although to be fair, when it works, Latuff's comics are pretty good).
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Palestinians are in a lose-lose situation here. If they commit violence it gives Bibi ammo to scare us more. But if they stay put and do nothing Bibi gets to say that there's been little terrorism under his watch. Maybe they're hoping to show us that Bibi can't protect us and his policies cause more violence. I don't know if it'll work, and if it works, if his replacement will be better or worse for the Palestinians. But expecting them to just do nothing with all this (legitimate) anger they have is pretty dumb.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:44
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Stabbing people is bad. As is shooting protestors.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:46
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Stabbing people is bad. As is shooting protestors.
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R. Mute posted:I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's not much comfort. Right in that post you quoted. It hasn't in a while (Kadima doesn't really count and was certainly not leftist), and those Oslo accords were the result of one of them if you'll recall. What exactly are you imagining will be the result of an intifada that is so much better than "a government willing to solve the problem"  e: just saw your edit quote:e: I realise you didn't specifically say a non-right wing government, btw, but a government that might do something to negotiate a two-state solution or whatever, but tbh that's not that far from hoping the intifada will work in terms of realism Again: I know  An intifada will definitively not work, though, while taking us even farther from my dream of a leftist-run Israel, so yeah still rootin' against it loquacius fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 17:48
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R. Mute posted:Allow me to disagree, Unless you can do it in the form of a cartoon that we can all argue about for another hour, don't bother.
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Damnit, I am sure that Israel was just about to stop the decades-long occupation on its own. Trust the dumb Palestinians to go and ruin it.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Damnit, I am sure that Israel was just about to stop the decades-long occupation on its own. Trust the dumb Palestinians to go and ruin it. Well they sure as hell won't with Netanyahu at the helm, and we'll just see how this affects his political standings (hint: it will help them)
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So what do you guys think about gun control? Personally I
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loquacius posted:Again: I know
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R. Mute posted:I'm not sure you're all that committed to actually finding any sort of resolution to the whole conflict.
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Xander77 posted:I'm sure you are. Any luck so far?
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Never thought I'd find a comic that's both uplifting and depressing at the same time, but here I am.
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Oh, I get it now. It's a cookbook!
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Latuff is like when you're a teen and realize how cool and edgy it is to be anti-establishment (and with at least some good reason, since the establishment does suck), but you haven't figured out nuance or how complicated the world is yet, so while some of your ideas have merit and the establishment you're anti is indeed bad in a lot of ways, usually you just sound like a jackass.
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Oct 14, 2015 18:13
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Is this about Twitter? Or am I just PBFing it and it's about wanting a distraction in general?
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Twitter distracts humanity from real problems. An Opiate Of The Masses Cartoon.
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Wanamingo posted:Seriously. Hell, even I can tell you that's a bullshit argument, and I actually like that sort of dynamic. I should be the target audience here, but I'm not, because the guy's a motherfuck. It's just such a false parallel to begin with. Submission doesn't mean a lout in a wife beater yells at his sister-bride about bacon; it means the wife agrees to follow her husband's guidance and the husband promises to use this authority to see to her care. But what happens when a husband fails on his side of the deal? What resources are there for abuse victims? What would Adam tell that sister-wife up there to do about her obviously abusive situation? Nothing, because her and people like her don't exist for Adam. There are only people following the right path and people following the wrong one, and the people on the wrong one just need to get more Jesus in their lives so as to be rewarded in the afterlife.
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Monkey Fracas posted:That's Ann Telnaes I believe. She used to work at Disney or something, didn't she? Buckets of talent, she's got.
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LordSaturn posted:Is this about Twitter? Or am I just PBFing it and it's about wanting a distraction in general? It's about simple goodness 
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Xanderkish posted:Ha. He reminds me of some guy I saw take to the audience of a black lives matter protest to advocate his socialist club. Like he's really committed to fighting the good fight but he fits the problems all into a very narrow vision of THE PEOPLE versus THE OPPRESSORS and tries to clumsily fit nuanced and complicated situations into his narrow schema, even when that only sometimes works (although to be fair, when it works, Latuff's comics are pretty good). He's basically Reg Shoe.
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alnilam posted:Latuff is like when you're a teen and realize how cool and edgy it is to be anti-establishment (and with at least some good reason, since the establishment does suck), but you haven't figured out nuance or how complicated the world is yet, so while some of your ideas have merit and the establishment you're anti is indeed bad in a lot of ways, usually you just sound like a jackass.  Except 46 years old, and might have had one or two threesomes.
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Birds are neat, the only good cartoon that has ever been posted here and ever will be. Anyway, we all know the Adam4D guy hates gays and Atheists, but did you know he also hates Christens who are doing Christianity in ways slightly different than the ways he approves of? (probably, because he's made comics like this one before):     Does your faith make you feel happy and confident on a personal level? Are you able to be inspired by the Bible without having to guilt or shame others who think differently from you? gently caress you you're doing it wrong.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:gently caress you you're doing it wrong.
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There's a part of my brain that's sure that Adam 4d doesn't like the prosperity gospel because some African-American preachers are its worst practitioners.
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"Can't we do a shorter Bible quote?" "No. We must tell those Prosperity Gospelites what's what."
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Xander77 posted:As a militant atheist: prosperity gospel is a heretical abomination that must be cleansed with fire. As someone who doesn't go to church but really likes the Sermon on the Mount: Prosperity Gospel is some evil poo poo, and A4D's stated reasons for hating it are legitimate.
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