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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Yeah, I'm not sure where people are getting that sort of recommendation. Even the shelters usually say 6 months and make you sign a form agreeing to bring them back for the procedure if you adopt a puppy younger than that. It stems from that self same cultural obligation that you're cheering, man. People take poo poo to extremes.
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i dunno after living in a country where everyone has intact dogs except in cases of medical problems like testicular/ovarian cancer that also somehow miraculously has such a low shelter population that rescues have to import foreign strays to meet with demands, i really just dont buy that the average dog owner is literally incapable of keeping intact dogs without it roaming or getting knocked up maybe, just maybe shelters and vets presenting spay/neuter as the only option if you want to be a Good Dog Owner TM is partially responsible for the total lack of understanding regarding how to keep intact dogs Fluffy Bunnies posted:It stems from that self same cultural obligation that you're cheering, man. People take poo poo to extremes. seriously. the shelters here all do pediatric neutering, its hosed up as hell
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After living in a country with mandatory spay/neuter of every animal that is not registered for breeding purposes, super heavy fines, sometimes jail time for neglect, forced registration of every animal, and all the stuff the HSUS would like to see and realizing that the shelters still look like this:  And they still euthanized trashcan full after trashcan full of dogs, cats, kittens and puppies every single week? Spaying and neutering does not stop shelter overpopulation. Responsible pet ownership does. And just because you spay or neuter? Doesn't make you a responsible pet owner. E: That's the Ozato Animal Control Station in Okinawa, Japan. Japan has some of the strictest policies in the world on dog and cat ownership, importation and all that poo poo. And their euth kennels still look like that, day in and day out, every year, every week, every day. There's strays loving everywhere, most of them spayed and neutered. Cats, dogs, even birds. Some of it is the fault of the military, but plenty is the fault of the locals too. Should you spay/neuter? Sure. There's lots of great reasons to spay/neuter. But spaying and neutering doesn't decline pet populations in shelters. It just means that they usually show up spayed and neutered. Fluffy Bunnies fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 17:49
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Dyna Soar posted:Hey guys, I'm not getting a crate, period. It's not something we do here, never has been never will. Can we ban this person just from PI because they literally never loving listen or shut the gently caress up.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:51
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wtftastic posted:Can we ban this person just from PI because they literally never loving listen or shut the gently caress up. Lots of people brought up crating as a solution and it's like, illegal here so uhh I'm not sure what else I could have responded. Also pretty funny how you think I should be banned but those couple of users who just shitposted the thread for a few pages are a-ok, hah. That said, I think I've been mostly civil and contructive in helping others as well as asking for help. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 17:58
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^^You never really explained why you can't use a pen. Unless you're living in some sort of tinyhome, you should have room for a small pen.Fluffy Bunnies posted:After living in a country with mandatory spay/neuter of every animal that is not registered for breeding purposes, super heavy fines, sometimes jail time for neglect, forced registration of every animal, and all the stuff the HSUS would like to see and realizing that the shelters still look like this: Jesus, that's horrible. I guess the reality is that the massive overpopulation comes from the handful of assholes who would willfully ignore required spaying/neutering and let their dogs run unsupervised anyway. I guess the "must spay" thing essentially boils down to "we have to do something!" because I'm at a loss as to how else you could deal with the number of dogs that are left in the streets to fend for themselves.
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We don't have strays here because the long and cold winter almost always kills them before spring. Some cats but next to no dogs.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:^^You never really explained why you can't use a pen. Unless you're living in some sort of tinyhome, you should have room for a small pen. The pen thing is primarily my problem along with constantly talking poo poo after either asking for advice or discussing problems you are having. Ex pens aren't illegal nor are loving baby gates, but all by all means bitch about how the advice and suggestions you get are terrible and we're all mean or whatever. You don't know poo poo and are consistently rude as hell.
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Dyna Soar posted:Lots of people brought up crating as a solution and it's like, illegal here so uhh I'm not sure what else I could have responded. Also pretty funny how you think I should be banned but those couple of users who just shitposted the thread for a few pages are a-ok, hah. and those of us who also raised puppies in countries where crating is illegal gave you plenty of other ways to deal with your puppy destructive tendencies only to be met with "thats not an option" if you cant do something as simple as keeping your dog from destroying your poo poo, maybe you shouldnt be handing out advice
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wtftastic posted:The pen thing is primarily my problem along with constantly talking poo poo after either asking for advice or discussing problems you are having. Ex pens aren't illegal nor are loving baby gates, but all means bitch about how the advice and suggestions you get are terrible and we're all mean or whatever. You don't know poo poo and are consistently rude as hell. I don't really see why I'd need to explain why a particular solution isn't viable in my situation. I did end up getting a baby gate, though as I posted. Also are you kidding me, I'm the rude one here? Do you actually read this goddamn thread at all? The people I was rude at were the ones who have been consistently doing nothing than making GBS threads up the thread or making fun of first time dog owners for being ignorant. Triangulum posted:and those of us who also raised puppies in countries where crating is illegal gave you plenty of other ways to deal with your puppy destructive tendencies only to be met with "thats not an option" Uhh, I have stopped it now thank you with it, partly thanks to this thread. I've also raised a dog who's well behaved and am doing fine with our new one. Also I'd say if you can't actually give advice without first making fun of the person asking for a few pages maybe you shouldn't, either. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Triangulum posted:and those of us who also raised puppies in countries where crating is illegal gave you plenty of other ways to deal with your puppy destructive tendencies only to be met with "thats not an option" "excuse me EX PENS are JUST NOT A POSSIBILITY", the foreign goon screamed while wading through rivers of destroyed items, "ALL OF THIS COST SO MUCH MONEY HOW CAN I KEEP THIS DOG FROM RUINING IT".
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Jesus, that's horrible. Germany vs Japan= dogs are really, really liked and people will do most anything to keep their pets vs "oh hey the dog got out again. Eh. I guess we can go get another one from Japan petsmart". It isn't a population thing so much as it's really, sincerely, honestly, I swear to gently caress, a state of mind as to how important it is to take care of your animals. You literally see it around military bases all the time- people get rid of their animals as soon as they're told they have to move, so every year there's two giant population booms. If we could teach people how to deal with animals that are "problems" (ie: oh look the dog isn't potty trained at 4 months because you have no idea what you're doing) and make pets a priority instead of an accessory in this country, our shelters would dry up within a generation. Spayed or not spayed. Neutered or not neutered. Thank you and good night.
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Dyna Soar posted:I don't really see why I'd need to explain why a particular solution isn't viable in my situation. I did end up getting a baby gate, though as I posted. no i'm serious. telling someone who has lived in a country where crating is illegal (because apparently europeans can't loving figure out how to use crates in a way that doesn't encourage animal hoarding or puppy mills) that their alternative solutions d8dn't make sense while throwing a massive tanty was "wonderful". v. respectful. i read this thread often enough to remember the other stupid poo poo you've come in here to bloviate on.
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Dyna Soar posted:I don't really see why I'd need to explain why a particular solution isn't viable in my situation. I did end up getting a baby gate, though as I posted. You are dumber than my dog's atrophied left testicle, dude. And I try very hard to keep my temper with you but you're just so loving painfully ignorant and assholish that I don't even care what your dog eats anymore. I just feel bad for having such a moron for an owner. We offered you multiple possibilities and crating may be not normal but who the poo poo is gonna call the cops on you.
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Dyna Soar posted:I maybe could use a baby gate to shut him in the uhhhh vestibule? (google translate gave this word, basically small hall) but still i'm sure he'd be abled to gently caress something up if he wanted. We'll see. you guys maybe missed this post, lol. It's been going really well! But yeah, my problem was that my 1-year old dog, so not really a puppy one day decided to destroy a bunch of my stuff. He never did it before and hasn't now that I actually took advice from this thread and shut him in a room with nothing to destroy (well he did jump up and somehow managed to get a pair of gloves from a shelf nearly 2 meters high. How the gently caress did he do that?). How exactly am I being ignorant here? Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Dyna Soar posted:you guys maybe missed this post, lol. It's been going really well! i'm glad it only took you a giant melt down to loving figure out exactly what like 5 people suggested you do was reasonable
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Truly, puppy ownership is serious business.
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citybeatnik posted:Truly, puppy ownership is serious business. if you've seen some of the stupid poo poo we've seen over the last 4-5 years you'd feel the same way
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i could maybe do something, maybe. it wont work tho yeah i cant imagine why people didnt take that as actually attempting to rectify the problem Dyna Soar posted:I don't really see why I'd need to explain why a particular solution isn't viable in my situation. I did end up getting a baby gate, though as I posted. we arent rude just because people are newbies. no ones jumped down extreme insertions throat because he actually considers advice given instead of acting like a huge pissbaby people get rude when people like you come in, ignore all advice given, and then a few weeks/months later come in and cry that the totally predictable thing that everyone warned would happen happens (see: taking pit bulls to dog parks)
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wtftastic posted:i'm glad it only took you a giant melt down to loving figure out exactly what like 5 people suggested you do was reasonable Actually only 1 suggested a baby gate, 1 a pen and the rest just said don't be an idiot crate your loving dog. Constructive advice there!
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Dyna Soar posted:you guys maybe missed this post, lol. It's been going really well! Because you never said you did that, and you never explained why a pen wasn't an option which meant people couldn't give you other suggestions that would fit your situation. Which makes it seem like you wanted to argue for no reason. edit: And seriously, I came in as a potential pitbull disaster story, actually engaged in dialogue with everyone, and aside from a couple salty oldtimers everyone was reasonable and just wants to know about my cool rear end dog rather than shitpost at me.
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Triangulum posted:
Have I actually done that though? I'm pretty sure I haven't. The only thing I asked advice for was that one thing and I acted on the first piece of advice that was feasible. But hey, I guess this is your little playground and you make the rules.
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no. crating, penning, baby gates, locking the dog in one dog proofed room, and probably a few other things im forgetting were suggested and you just started crying about ~americans~
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Dyna Soar posted:Actually only 1 suggested a baby gate, 1 a pen and the rest just said don't be an idiot crate your loving dog. Constructive advice there! I guess you didn't figure out how not to be an idiot either.
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It's kinda amusing how all the users complaining to me are the ones with those tiny little pet island badges.
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Dyna Soar posted:It's kinda amusing how all the users complaining to me are the ones with those tiny little pet island badges. yeah its like the regulars all agree youre a loving moron or something weird.
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I re-read the conversation and def all the advice I was given was either get a pen or a crate. As soon as the baby gate thing was suggested I posted that i'd try it. I don't really see how I've been in the wrong here, but w/e. I'll keep on posting in this thread and ignore all the trolling I guess.
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Dyna Soar posted:I re-read the conversation and def all the advice I was given was either get a pen or a crate. As soon as the baby gate thing was suggested I posted that i'd try it. yeah the regulars and people who actually know dick are just trolling. Is common sense illegal along with crating where ever the gently caress your from?
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wtftastic posted:yeah the regulars and people who actually know dick are just trolling. Is common sense illegal along with crating where ever the gently caress your from? Oh get off your high horse. If getting advice from you guys means you have to let all kinds of snarky comments slide then I wouldn't say you're very good at giving advice.
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i bet there some sort of PI conspiracy to get you, thats why you get poo poo on and other newbie dog owners dont!!!!
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Dyna Soar posted:Oh get off your high horse. If getting advice from you guys means you have to let all kinds of snarky comments slide then I wouldn't say you're very good at giving advice. I'm sorry have you read most of this thread? People get plenty of good advice, but I guess because occasionally the tone isn't quite to your liking that means its wrong and bad. Do you realize how silly you sound? After all the poo poo you've said here? C'mon man.
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wtftastic posted:I'm sorry have you read most of this thread? People get plenty of good advice, but I guess because occasionally the tone isn't quite to your liking that means its wrong and bad. Do you realize how silly you sound? After all the poo poo you've said here? C'mon man. Yeah and I guess you can't take it when someone posts back to you in a tone that's not quite to your liking. So people should get banned for being rude to a ~regular~user, lol.
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Dyna Soar posted:Yeah and I guess you can't take it when someone posts back to you in a tone that's not quite to your liking. So people should get banned for being rude to a ~regular~user, lol. I can take it just fine man, I'm on lunch break reading the forums.  And no, you just shouldn't be able to post here because your a dipshit who won't loving learn and shits up threads, not for being rude.
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Dyna Soar posted:Oh get off your high horse. If getting advice from you guys means you have to let all kinds of snarky comments slide then I wouldn't say you're very good at giving advice. You were presented with a number of valid options. You did not provide information about how you live somewhere that does not crates until later on. All you said was that it wasn't an option without clearly stating why. You were presented with an xpen as an option. Had you used your imagination, you would have come to the conclusion of using some sort of removable containment system to manage your dog. Had you an ounce of critical thinking skills, you would have come to the baby gate conclusion much sooner. Instead, you had to be spoonfed options and have a tantrum when the options presented weren't totally catered to you even though you had not provided us with all of the information.
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wtftastic posted:I can take it just fine man, I'm on lunch break reading the forums. I might be a dipshit but then again so is most of the users here, especially you regulars. I do learn and did learn, so I have no idea why you're saying that. I haven't poo poo up this thread until now when someone said I should be banned for poo poo I def did not do. So uhh what's your point here, exactly?
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Dyna Soar posted:Yeah and I guess you can't take it when someone posts back to you in a tone that's not quite to your liking. So people should get banned for being rude to a ~regular~user, lol. No I just said you were goddamn dumb. There's shitloads of moron users. Fyad usually has threads about them (hi fyad). Your lovely eat-everything untrained hellhound will probably eat a door out of that room or eat a wall. I look forward to that post.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Your lovely eat-everything untrained hellhound will probably eat a door out of that room or eat a wall. I look forward to that post. No need to talk poo poo about my dog though, he's a rescue pup who's only lived in a real home for 3 months  he's doing really well though, knows all the basic commands and we're working on his anxiety & fear.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Because you never said you did that, and you never explained why a pen wasn't an option which meant people couldn't give you other suggestions that would fit your situation. Which makes it seem like you wanted to argue for no reason. How's worf doing btw?
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