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ShawnPfeiffer posted:OK, so as a fan, I was SUPER giddy for a lot of this episode. I like the inclusion of Spivot, though I wish she was a CSI geek, like she is in the comics, but I will take this as a close second. We got a hint of that with her collecting the sand and realizing it most likely meant a meta-human was involved due to the cable being cut by sand blast.
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MacheteZombie posted:We got a hint of that with her collecting the sand and realizing it most likely meant a meta-human was involved due to the cable being cut by sand blast. Barry also directly asked her why police instead of CSI.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:37
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Aphrodite posted:Barry also directly asked her why police instead of CSI. Her answer was pretty good too.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:41
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Jackson Taus posted:Especially when this is like vanilla sci-fi. Aside from the DC Multiverse, a ton of sci-fi shows from Star Trek on forward have explored the idea. It should be something that a guy in his 40s has at least heard of before. It might be unbelievable that that's real but it should be unimaginable. What makes it sillier is that in the time travel episode, Cisco used different movies to explain the different theories of how time travel works, and Joe immediately got it. I kept expecting Cisco to do the same thing here as a callback to that episode.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:42
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The Homage I just don't think they go too long without addressing the Assassinations of Earth-2 Villians by the Coward Barry Allen at some point. I don't think the writers room is unaware that killing villains is weird.Joe even dropped during the interrogation scene that Iron Heights can hold metahumans now, so it's not just "well I guess this is better than no-lunch supermax". Also I wonder if the extent of Cisco's vibe powers are going to be ESP.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:43
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My only problem with this shot is Spivot's hand over her head. I think with the shot in motion it would have looked a little better if it was timed where she raised her hand up as the shot pulls back instead of just holding it over head like she's the answer to a class question.
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Oct 14, 2015 15:45
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MacheteZombie posted:Her answer was pretty good too. Yeah, it seemed like a bit of a wink wink conversation too. It's definitely easier to fit her in the show as a cop versus a lab tech. When's the last time we even saw Barry's lab?
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Oct 14, 2015 15:54
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52 portals means there are actually 53 earths. I think this is a small oversight by the writers, or they may have done it on purpose to emphasize the number 52.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:05
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Better than last week's, but still quite dull. I hope it picks up soon. Also weird how Jay Garrick is basically just a replacement for his dad. Had to google to find out what the hell you guys were talking about, but for anyone curious: 
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Oct 14, 2015 16:09
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nine-gear crow posted:So is anyone else holding out hope that Zoom is Earth-2 Eddie just to contrive any excuse to get Rick Cosnett back on the show? fariz posted:He's on that terrible abc show Also, as someone who really never cared about Jay Garrick (sorry) I really liked how they made him seem so grand and larger-than-life in the episode. The helmet scene was really cool, even though the "Let's go Flash/"Sure thing Flash" *high five* was corny as hell.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:16
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Pseudo-God posted:52 portals means there are actually 53 earths. I think this is a small oversight by the writers, or they may have done it on purpose to emphasize the number 52. I thought the idea was more that there are 52 rifts to E2, not that they all connect to different Earths.
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ShawnPfeiffer posted:OK, so as a fan, I was SUPER giddy for a lot of this episode. I like the inclusion of Spivot, though I wish she was a CSI geek, like she is in the comics, but I will take this as a close second. I think the taskforce is intriguing on a lot of levels though. They could focus on the small time metas, leaving Barry free to go after the Big Bad. I definitely think more join the taskforce in the coming weeks, similar to what Gotham is doing, but at a slower pace. My real question is why is there no side effects in Arrow? This seems like something that should effect Arrow. Did you miss the bit where she said she did science stuff at college, was a Barry fanboy over his CSI reports and she out CSI'd everyone at the arson crime scene? The task force was a big thing, everyone left apart from Joe as it was too dangerous. I don't think there will be anyone else joining. Neon Knight posted:Harrison Wells wasn't a bad guy. Eobard Thawne was. Earth 2 Wells being treated like a villain reveal is weird. I didn't read that scene as a villain reveal at all. It was a "hey look there is a Harrison Wells on Earth 2, he is part of their Star Labs, he is going to be important" reveal (also look at the wierd 20's scifi stuff Earth 2 has). Mr Beens fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 16:20
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ShawnPfeiffer posted:My real question is why is there no side effects in Arrow? This seems like something that should effect Arrow. Star(ling?) City has its own problems, like nearly being wiped off the map for 3 seasons in a row.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:21
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Stealthed Zombie posted:I thought the idea was more that there are 52 rifts to E2, not that they all connect to different Earths. The fact that they had Stein talk about a full on multiverse makes me think it's the latter. Plus having dozens of alternate earths to pull characters from allows for a lot more potential story ideas.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:38
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Crime Syndicate crossover special incoming get hype
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hcreight posted:The fact that they had Stein talk about a full on multiverse makes me think it's the latter. Plus having dozens of alternate earths to pull characters from allows for a lot more potential story ideas. Yeah that would be an outstanding direction for the season to take, I hope that's what's coming.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:48
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I want Earth-2 Harrison Wells to be actual Harrison Wells, just hosed in the head due to traumatic/tragic events. Having him just be Thawne again would be boring. but having Cavanagh play a fundamentally different character allows them to cover new ground.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:50
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DoctorWhat posted:Well, it is the [i]Golden/i] Age! 
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Spatula City posted:I want Earth-2 Harrison Wells to be actual Harrison Wells, just hosed in the head due to traumatic/tragic events. Having him just be Thawne again would be boring. but having Cavanagh play a fundamentally different character allows them to cover new ground. It's clearly the smug and confident and fun Wells we never quite got.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:17
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I desperately want to see one of those 30s movie serial rocket ships taking off in the background sometime.
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Oct 14, 2015 17:18
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Oracle posted:The correct nerd reference is 'HADOKEN!' We can split hairs over this but IMO "HADOKEN" is for quick, instant attacks, whereas ones with significant windup periods (either in "real" time or as framed by the cinematography) are Kamehamehas. Therefore, this was a Kamehameha, but future, more rapid lighting shots might be Hadokens. Cisco referring to either would have been excellent, in any case. 
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Pseudo-God posted:52 portals means there are actually 53 earths. I think this is a small oversight by the writers, or they may have done it on purpose to emphasize the number 52. Nah. It's all portals to Earth 2. The 52 thing is an in-joke they've used for a while. The comics have dropped the 52 multiple Earths thing anyway. Now there's an infinite number of universes containing an infinite number of universes containing an infinite number of Earths.
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My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest murderer alive.
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Codependent Poster posted:My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest murderer alive. Turns out Barry is the season's big villain.
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DoctorWhat posted:We can split hairs over this but IMO "HADOKEN" is for quick, instant attacks, whereas ones with significant windup periods (either in "real" time or as framed by the cinematography) are Kamehamehas. That wasn't proper form for either Hadokens OR Kamehamehas. Neither Ryu or Goku run in a circle and sling it around their body like a shotput. You nerds have failed this city.
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Anyone else hope that Jay would fling his METAL helmet into the lightning bolt to help blast Sand Demon? He's always doing poo poo like that in the comics (flinging it around to smack people on the head, stop bullets/lasers/powers/etc). I'm kinda wondering though, in the season finale Wells was kinda shocked by the helmet popping out of the singularity. Was he going to plan to go to E2 and kill that Wells and bring forth THE SUPER SCIENCE or was that just an indicator that the time portal breach thing was open and Barry could run Barry run?
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Mr Beens posted:Did you miss the bit where she said she did science stuff at college, was a Barry fanboy over his CSI reports and she out CSI'd everyone at the arson crime scene? I did obviously catch it, I just meant I wish she had been brought in as a lab rat, and not another cop.
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I'm worried that Spivot's going to turn into this season's "don't tell Iris," but I like her character.
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Bruceski posted:I'm worried that Spivot's going to turn into this season's "don't tell Iris," but I like her character. I'm hoping when that plot develops she just mentions in conversation "Oh btw, I know you are the Flash, I realized it back when you saved me from the sandy dude."
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I kind of hope her "It's like you were there" means she thinks he's some insane serial killer.
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Mr Beens posted:Zoom is going to be earth 2 Barry. drat, I was working my way to the end of the thread so I could post this.
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Aphrodite posted:I kind of hope her "It's like you were there" means she thinks he's some insane serial killer. Ooh maybe she actually hates all metas and is working with Joe and Barry because she realizes they might know who the Flash is, and she secretly wants to take him out too! thrawn527 posted:drat, I was working my way to the end of the thread so I could post this. Yeah some people had this theory last week, I think Macdeo Lurjtux was the first one (at least in this thread, but I am sure it's come up elsewhere).
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Bruceski posted:I'm worried that Spivot's going to turn into this season's "don't tell Iris," but I like her character. Along those lines, it's not really surprising that Iris is completely rehabilitated as a character by getting in on the secret. The same thing happened on Arrow; almost every problematic character was fixed by bringing them into the inner circle. Secret identities are just bad plot mechanisms but for some reason DC leans on it super hard.
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Post-Crisis and Pre-New 52, the Crime Syndicate was on Earth 2 so, yeah, it makes perfect sense.
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Superhero-related books, in general, lean on the "keep things secret at all cost" trope despite it making absolutely no sense.
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lotus circle posted:Superhero-related books, in general, lean on the "keep things secret at all cost" trope despite it making absolutely no sense. Marvel's gotten a lot better about this, with only Spider-Man and Daredevil really fronting the "secret identity" front on the A and B-lists. DC on the other hand still leans on secrets and secret identities because.... well frankly their entire brand ethos at this point seems to be "take whatever worked from the Silver/Bronze/Dark Age, add some modern aesthetics, darken it the gently caress up if it wasn't already (the Flash show is the notable exception that proves this rule), and call it a day."
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zoux posted:Along those lines, it's not really surprising that Iris is completely rehabilitated as a character by getting in on the secret. The same thing happened on Arrow; almost every problematic character was fixed by bringing them into the inner circle. I wouldn't say she's been completely rehabilitated, she just isn't in-our-face-completely-awful so far. She feels like a non-factor so far in the first two episodes other than the trust speech to Barry.
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mind the walrus posted:Marvel's gotten a lot better about this, with only Spider-Man and Daredevil really fronting the "secret identity" front on the A and B-lists.
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zoux posted:Along those lines, it's not really surprising that Iris is completely rehabilitated as a character by getting in on the secret. The same thing happened on Arrow; almost every problematic character was fixed by bringing them into the inner circle. I'm not sure it would fly with someone they just met, but I'm hoping the 8AM task force meeting is with everyone else on the team, "we've found it's easier this way."
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mikeraskol posted:I wouldn't say she's been completely rehabilitated, she just isn't in-our-face-completely-awful so far. She feels like a non-factor so far in the first two episodes other than the trust speech to Barry. Well the fact that half of all the thread posts aren't bitching about Iris is a huge step forward. Bruceski posted:I'm not sure it would fly with someone they just met, but I'm hoping the 8AM task force meeting is with everyone else on the team, "we've found it's easier this way." At worst, I think she doesn't find out until the end of the season.
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