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Cleretic posted:It's not that he's 'forgotten everything', it's that he doesn't really give a poo poo how people see him. He's more interested in figuring things out and getting things done than seeming friendly while he does it. No he literally forgot, you saw the cards with responses right? He literally doesnt know how emotions or humans work but they try to show it in some weird trying hard to be light way that falls really flat.
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You know, Sim's Master is not bad at all, quite good actually. Its just the stories around him are really poor. I guess the Sound of Drums starts out okay, but it slides into the worst kind of RTD weirdness. Decent music choices though. Though one thing that's confused me for years is it sounds like the Master shows up as Saxon and says "i'm running for PM!" Which you can't really do in a parliamentary system. He'd need to be first join a party, then be elected head of that party, then that party had to win a majority of seats in parliament. I guess he could start his own party, but its never said in script.
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I think they did imply he started hia own party, yeah. Votes wouldn't be a problem, with the mind control and all.
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Oct 15, 2015 05:37
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I'm just gonna assume that when Matt Smith was born he was like 90% nose and he's slowly grown into it over time.
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Saxon was Minister for Defence in a previous government too.Dabir posted:I think they did imply he started hia own party, yeah. Votes wouldn't be a problem, with the mind control and all. Yeah, the implication was that he was massively popular and MPs left their other parties to join his.
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Oct 15, 2015 06:02
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Saxon was Minister for Defence in a previous government too. That makes more sense. Also I realized the last shot of the woman picking up his ring is pretty much the same shot from the end of Flash Gordon. Hearing that John Hurt is not going to die soon made me want to watch his episode, and sadly its not on Canadian Netflix. Everything from the current series is there save that episode. And its really glaring because it goes ep 14 then skips to 16. I really like that idea that Capaldi's doctor is ageing rocker. It's an interesting idea to have the first in a new series of Regenerations being a character who is trying to defy aging, and be cool and youthful when he's not.
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Oct 15, 2015 06:23
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah, the implication was that he was massively popular and MPs left their other parties to join his. If I recall correctly, it's outright stated so. Just before he gasses them all to death he says something like,"The moment you saw the way the opinion polls were going and that I was going to win, you all abandoned your parties and rushed to join me."
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Oct 15, 2015 06:44
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It's a page back, but that NY bar sounds like my personal version of hell. Steampunkers should be fired from a cannon into the sun.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It's a page back, but that NY bar sounds like my personal version of hell. Steampunkers should be fired from a cannon into the sun. I sure do miss the days when nerds had to be ashamed of their fandom and risked physical harm if they came out of their basements.
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Rhyno posted:I sure do miss the days when nerds had to be ashamed of their fandom and risked physical harm if they came out of their basements. 
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Oct 15, 2015 06:56
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Oh come on man, that was clearly sarcasm directed at his post.
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The thing about steampunk is that it's at the bottom of the nerd food chain. Actual steam engine nuts get annoyed at the mechanical and historical inaccuracy of it all. And fans of other -punk genres get annoyed because it focuses on the upper classes and not the downtrodden living in a grimy dystopia. Makes me wonder if there's potential out there for a book that puts both the steam and the punk back into steampunk.
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Oct 15, 2015 07:12
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This is the best doctor but the worst writing. gently caress this season. Doctor who needs to stop being on TV, it's awful. Here's Dr. Who: -Terrible poo poo happens -It looks worse -Dr who talks to the enemy a lot and the enemy doesn't shoot him/get violent with him for some lovely dumb reason -in the one in twenty time that they get violent, he planned for it all along and it helps him or he at least has a lovely shield or something that you've never heard of before -the doctor makes up a new rule about how regeneration/tardis/screwdriver/timey wimey works, and uses that to foil the enemy's plot -end of episode, some extras probably died along the way. At least mcguyver made sense, and the A-team were able to make some kind of tank out of garbage cans or whatever. Doctor who just pulls poo poo out of his rear end.
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redreader posted:Doctor who just pulls poo poo out of his rear end. "Dr. Who isn't a scientist. He's a wizard." / 
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Paul.Power posted:The thing about steampunk is that it's at the bottom of the nerd food chain. Actual steam engine nuts get annoyed at the mechanical and historical inaccuracy of it all. And fans of other -punk genres get annoyed because it focuses on the upper classes and not the downtrodden living in a grimy dystopia. Ask a Steampunk fan about the horrible inequities in Victorian society, plus the racism and sexism and all kinds of terrible things, and watch them get really mad, because they've convinced themselves that it was actually a time of men acting as gentlemen and ladies acting like their pets. That or they look at you blank because they just got into it to stick gears on things and wear goggles on tophats. Jerusalem posted:If I recall correctly, it's outright stated so. Just before he gasses them all to death he says something like,"The moment you saw the way the opinion polls were going and that I was going to win, you all abandoned your parties and rushed to join me." Yea, it really sounds like Saxon was the only one running. he could just have joined Labour and took it over, and they just don't mention it to avoid anyone getting upset suggesting the leader of a real party was evil. Though the Master wishes he had control over the party on the level Stephen Harper has here in Canada.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It's a page back, but that NY bar sounds like my personal version of hell. Steampunkers should be fired from a cannon into the sun. How is this cannon powered?
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MrL_JaKiri posted:How is this cannon powered? There is no agreed upon Dr. Who cannon. 
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ThaGhettoJew posted:There is no agreed upon Dr. Who cannon. Disagree http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Loose_Cannon_Productions
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Oh wow, that was him in his Live & Kicking days. The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 09:42
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Finally a picture of John Barrowman my wife doesn't have on her screensaver.
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Oct 15, 2015 09:43
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CobiWann posted:Finally a picture of John Barrowman my wife doesn't have on her screensaver. Add it. There's no such thing as too much John Barrowman.
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Yes, you are technically correct. The best kind of correct. Kilo147 posted:Add it. There's no such thing as too much John Barrowman. I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry, but TORCHWOOD.
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Oct 15, 2015 10:15
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ThaGhettoJew posted:Yes, you are technically correct. The best kind of correct. Hah! I never watched it, so I guess that makes me the victor?
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twistedmentat posted:Though one thing that's confused me for years is it sounds like the Master shows up as Saxon and says "i'm running for PM!" Which you can't really do in a parliamentary system. He'd need to be first join a party, then be elected head of that party, then that party had to win a majority of seats in parliament. I guess he could start his own party, but its never said in script. Since I was an A-level politics student (i.e. a complete twunt) at the time, that irritated me more than it should have. You can excuse it with mind control, and maybe consider the context (I may have my dates wrong but I believe there was a lot of whinging about Gordon Brown being an "unelected prime minister" in the press around the time). Still not as bothersome as Not George Bush being called "President-elect" because RTD apparently didn't bother looking up what that term actually means.
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redreader posted:This is the best doctor but the worst writing. gently caress this season. Doctor who needs to stop being on TV, it's awful. Here's Dr. Who: Ah yes...because every single episode of Doctor Who needs to follow the exact same formula, else it it not real Doctor Who.
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jivjov posted:Ah yes...because every single episode of Doctor Who needs to follow the exact same formula, else it it not real Doctor Who. hes saying it does and is bad hes not wrong though+ the past few seasons have been super wanky and theres a lot of pandering going on, saying "oh but everyone watches online now" to cover up falling ratings is just lying to yourself. underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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That is literally why overnight ratings have gone down though. Figures that factor in time shifting with DVR or watching online show that the show is doing pretty much just as good as it has been.
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Kilo147 posted:Hah! I never watched it, so I guess that makes me the victor? I envy you in ways that are hard to articulate. Although to be fair the 5-episode Children of Earth mini-season was decent and has both Capaldi and a rare live-action Nick Briggs in it.
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Oct 15, 2015 11:48
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Sure Loosely defining events in any episode does make it easy to make it sound all the same
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jivjov posted:That is literally why overnight ratings have gone down though. Figures that factor in time shifting with DVR or watching online show that the show is doing pretty much just as good as it has been. No it isn't. Everything in this post deals in final numbers with timeshifted viewing included. Matt Smith's tenure had a pretty consistent final ratings average of about 7.5 million, with individual episodes mostly coming in at somewhere between 8.5 and 6.5 million (it was also less volatile than the Tennant years, which could see numbers jumping wildly from 10 million to just over 5 million in the same year). Capaldi's first year only got over 7.5 million as a peak for the first and last episodes, and this year it's looking like the high is 6.5 for the opening episode and everything else is going to be sub-6 million. The audience shares are also leaking from 30-35% down to 20-25%, so it's not like there's fewer people watching TV. In line with this, the show's also sliding alarmingly in the weekly charts. For the second week in a row (Under the Lake's final rating is 5.63 million) it's slid out of the weekly top 20 (in years gone by it was more normally found on the edges of the top 10, bringing in numbers similar to those currently watching Doctor Foster and Doc Martin), and never mind beaten by Emmerdale, Under the Lake nearly got beaten by the sodding Antiques Roadshow. Big tentpole dramas should not be grubbing around at the level of the Antiques Roadshow. Just about the only good news for Under the Lake is that it did manage to put on enough timeshifted viewers to beat Casualty to 3rd place for Saturday; the daily chart is one of the few places (along with the Appreciation Index) where things are "as you were" from previous years. Like it or not, the simple facts are that under RTD the numbers trended gently upwards; under GMS they held more-or-less steady for Matt Smith and are now dropping off gently for Peter Capaldi. There's still the chance of a mid-season rebound now that England are out of the RWC, or alternatively after the tournament ends, but I'm skeptical about that. If you want to check this for yourself, you can pull the numbers from Wikipedia, A Brief History of Time (Travel), or the Doctor Who News Page. As I've been saying, there's no Doctor in Distress just yet, next year's series is already bought and paid for, and we're not in "sack everyone and change everything!" territory; but as a general principle, declining numbers is only a good sign if you're Michael Grade.
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redreader posted:This is the best doctor but the worst writing. gently caress this season. Doctor who needs to stop being on TV, it's awful. Here's Dr. Who: Have you considered just not watching it? I mean, I loathe gotham but I'm cool just not watching it, and the people who for some bizarre reason enjoy it can continue to watch their awful show. Like if you hate current who enough to want it cancelled entirely then no-one is forcing you to waste an hour of your saturday on a show you hate*. If you hear its changed into something more like a show you would enjoy you can always catch up anything you miss, or come back here and someone will recommend what episodes you *need* to watch to understand the new status quo or whatever. I'm up and down on capaldis doctor so far, there are episodes I like and episodes I dont, but if I found myself consistantly that angry about the show I'd walk away from it and never look back. *Unless they are. If they are and you need us to send help then "accidently" double post. We'll know what you mean.
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Do any of these "the show's dyin', Cloud!" posts factor in the bucketloads of merch this show sells? It's still BBC's big international hit, they're not taking it off the air anytime soon unless they suddenly have a collective brain aneurysm. I mean sure, you can not like or agree with the direction the show has taken. (Hating on Doctor Who yet watching it anyway is a time-honored tradition, after all) Pointing to the declining viewer figures doesn't support that case, though. It's still overwhelmingly successful as populist entertainment. misadventurous fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Question – as a Doctor Who fan, should I give Rick and Morty a go?
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CobiWann posted:Question – as a Doctor Who fan, should I give Rick and Morty a go? Yes
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Oct 15, 2015 13:00
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How else will you learn how Plumbuses are made?
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I finally started to read The Writers Tale and it's insane how many of RTD's ideas were just pulled completely out of the blue in five seconds flat. Also it's made me like the guy a lot more and realize how much stuff that people didn't like was down to budget.
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jivjov posted:That is literally why overnight ratings have gone down though. Figures that factor in time shifting with DVR or watching online show that the show is doing pretty much just as good as it has been. People who are keenly interested in a show are going to watch that poo poo asap. People who are just watching it to fill time are going to watch it later (ie, online), when they need to fill time. If the ratings were equal but more and more people were watching it later and later after it came out, its a sign people are losing interest. In Dr Whos case, its just flat losing viewers.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:People who are keenly interested in a show are going to watch that poo poo asap. People who are just watching it to fill time are going to watch it later (ie, online), when they need to fill time. There's an argument to be made that the opposite is true, surely? People watching just to fill time [on Saturday evening] will watch it live, whereas people who actively want to watch it will watch it preferentially, subsequently, over whatever is on at the time.
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