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nachos posted:Why the gently caress would Carson even do that? Surgeon General in a Bush Administration?
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Pick posted:God, what the gently caress is even going on any more. The GOP Primary race is a hurricane of poo poo fueled by pure hatred.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:42
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nachos posted:Why the gently caress would Carson even do that? Remember "Brewsters Millions" where Richard Pryor's character ran for mayor on a ludicrous platform as a way to burn off some of the money that he had to waste but he ended up winning? Same idea, but Ben Carson was trying to make money.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:44
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Pick posted:God, what the gently caress is even going on any more. https://youtu.be/9S4cldkdCjE?t=2m15s
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Oct 15, 2015 21:44
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Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:44
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zoux posted:Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was about as sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy. I'm convinced that he and Carson are going to flame out and all of the sweet, sweet bigot votes are going to rain down on Ted Cruz like manna from heaven.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:45
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How does Trump poll with the rest of America, not just Republicans? I don't think he'll win, but I'm curious how much he'll lose by.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:46
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zoux posted:Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy. That plus the GOP House situation makes this basically the Biblical end times. How's the ol' Middle East these days?
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Oct 15, 2015 21:46
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SquadronROE posted:How does Trump poll with the rest of America, not just Republicans? I don't think he'll win, but I'm curious how much he'll lose by. 10 points popular, he'll draw 100-150 EV's I speculate.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:46
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Dog who caught the car is right. I don't think Trump even considered this.
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zoux posted:Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy. I don't know that Trump will be the guy, but Bush isn't going to, and that is just insane considering how the primary started.
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SquadronROE posted:How does Trump poll with the rest of America, not just Republicans? I don't think he'll win, but I'm curious how much he'll lose by. ~38% positive ratings last I checked. He'd be blown out completely.
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crazy cloud posted:That plus the GOP House situation makes this basically the Biblical end times. How's the ol' Middle East these days? paging fade5 to the thread to answer this in detail in the meantime, it's loving HORRIFYING
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Oct 15, 2015 21:47
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Zeroisanumber posted:~38% positive ratings last I checked. He'd be blown out completely. Are you figuring in how much he'll pivot to "I'm seriously a Centrist, I was just playing to those chucklefucks to get the nomination!"?
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zoux posted:Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy. lol i almost want to see the republicans shamed on a national stage that badly
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Oct 15, 2015 21:48
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Caros posted:I don't know that Trump will be the guy, but Bush isn't going to, and that is just insane considering how the primary started. And the rumor is that Trump loving hates Bush with a passion, so for him mission accomplished.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:49
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I keep thinking that somehow this all started as a favor Trump was going to do for Hillary to make the Republicans look like whackjobs and it spiraled out of control.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:49
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zoux posted:10 points popular, he'll draw 100-150 EV's I speculate. I should add this only holds if Hillary is the nom. The only possible path to President Trump runs through a Bernie nomination.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:50
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zoux posted:I should add this only holds if Hillary is the nom. The only possible path to President Trump runs through a Bernie nomination. Or Bernie going third party.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:53
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So Carson's polling at around 20% right now. Hypothetically, if he dropped out instead of just suspending his campaign, who would his supporters move to? Trump? Huckster? Anyone have any solid info on the "second choice" candidate of Carson's supporters?
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Oct 15, 2015 21:54
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zoux posted:Seriously I'm at the point now where I think it looks like Trump is gonna be the guy. And I was sure that was maximally impossible when he announced. This is so goddamn crazy. At this point, all you have to do is read what goons say in USPol and then believe the opposite. The USPol groupthink was that: - Bernie was going to instantly flame out - Trump would never run - Trump would never release his financials - Trump would never poll anywhere near the serious frontrunners As much as USPol groupthink likes to make fun of the average voter, this thread sure has a lot of wrong assertions.
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SquadronROE posted:Or Bernie going third party. Bernie's not going third party. If he was seriously in this to win at even the expense of the Democratic Party, he wouldn't have gifted Hillary that email poo poo and shook her hand. He really is in it just to make sure Hillary stays honest, is my firm opinion.
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SquadronROE posted:Are you figuring in how much he'll pivot to "I'm seriously a Centrist, I was just playing to those chucklefucks to get the nomination!"? I think that Donald would stand by everything that he said until the bitter end.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:55
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:At this point, all you have to do is read what goons say in USPol and then believe the opposite. The USPol groupthink was that: To be fair, literally every pundit in the country thought all that stuff. This primary cycle has confounded the conventional wisdom on presidential politics.
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Mr Jaunts posted:So Carson's polling at around 20% right now. Hypothetically, if he dropped out instead of just suspending his campaign, who would his supporters move to? Trump? Huckster? Anyone have any solid info on the "second choice" candidate of Carson's supporters? Cruz would pick up most of his supporters with some going to Trump or Rubio. zoux posted:To be fair, literally every pundit in the country thought all that stuff. This primary cycle has confounded the conventional wisdom on presidential politics. Also Bernie wasn't thought to be a flame out, he's just getting more support than what most people thought. This is probably because the media want's a horse race narrative more than anything else, but Bernie was in this mostly to shift Hillary to the left, not to actually win the nod. A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 21:56
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:At this point, all you have to do is read what goons say in USPol and then believe the opposite. The USPol groupthink was that: Man, who could predict this crazy poo poo?
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Oct 15, 2015 21:56
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zoux posted:I should add this only holds if Hillary is the nom. The only possible path to President Trump runs through a Bernie nomination. Yeah, no. Do you really think Bernie is so repulsive to the party that handily won 08 and 12 that they'll just "No thanks, Ill stay home let that Trump fellow steer the ol' ship of state for a bit." Nah mang. Whomever gets the Democratic nomination is going to be our President. Barring some sort of Dead Girl/Live Boy situation with either Obama or the nominee.
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Rygar201 posted:Yeah, no. Do you really think Bernie is so repulsive to the party that handily won 08 and 12 that they'll just "No thanks, Ill stay home let that Trump fellow steer the ol' ship of state for a bit." I didn't say he is definitely going to lose, just that he could. Barring a dead girl/live boy scenario, Trump cannot beat Hillary.
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Rygar201 posted:Yeah, no. Do you really think Bernie is so repulsive to the party that handily won 08 and 12 that they'll just "No thanks, Ill stay home let that Trump fellow steer the ol' ship of state for a bit." he thinks that because he believes the socialist tag will be too much for bernie to overcome in the general, not because the DNC won't support him
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Oct 15, 2015 21:58
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zoux posted:To be fair, literally every pundit in the country thought all that stuff. This primary cycle has confounded the conventional wisdom on presidential politics. Yeah, it's hard to predict something when it turns out to not follow logic or reason. Rygar201 posted:Yeah, no. Do you really think Bernie is so repulsive to the party that handily won 08 and 12 that they'll just "No thanks, Ill stay home let that Trump fellow steer the ol' ship of state for a bit." I definitely think Bernie would have to fight harder to win than Hillary would. After a certain point it's just a matter of public perception.
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zoux posted:To be fair, literally every pundit in the country thought all that stuff. This primary cycle has confounded the conventional wisdom on presidential politics. This is not a ringing endorsement.
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zoux posted:I didn't say he is definitely going to lose, just that he could. Barring a dead girl/live boy scenario, Trump cannot beat Hillary. If Trump did get the nod, I'd expect the national party to cut him loose and instead focus all of their resources on downticket races.
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nachos posted:Why the gently caress would Carson even do that? Being President pays $400k a year, being a conservative media darling pays more.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:59
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Zeroisanumber posted:Man, who could predict this crazy poo poo? I predicted that trump would get a bump from saying all Mexicans are rapists. I just didn't think that he'd end up being the frontrunner based on it.
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TheQat posted:he thinks that because he believes the socialist tag will be too much for bernie to overcome in the general, not because the DNC won't support him Yeah under that scenario I think the media will be perfectly complicit with Trump in framing the contest as "capitalism vs socialism" and I don't trust the electorate not to reflexively reject anything called socialist. Zeroisanumber posted:If Trump did get the nod, I'd expect the national party to cut him loose and instead focus all of their resources on downticket races. Nah. Losing three in a row would be (and is going to be) super embarrassing for the party.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:00
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How come every other book tour Presidential candidate seems to be able to handle campaigning while also shilling their ghostwritten book, but Carson straight up suspends his campaign to go sign books? Especially when he's consistently polling so well, it's bizarre. Does he want to get out before Iowa?
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Oct 15, 2015 22:01
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Caros posted:I predicted that trump would get a bump from saying all Mexicans are rapists. I just didn't think that he'd end up being the frontrunner based on it. Why not? Everyone that wasn't interested in playing the "both sides are equal" game knows that the republican base are pretty much all racists and Trump is just exposing that.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:01
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Sir Tonk posted:How come every other book tour Presidential candidate seems to be able to handle campaigning while also shilling their ghostwritten book, but Carson straight up suspends his campaign to go sign books? Because he's taken this ride about as far as he wants to take it and being an actual frontrunner is more than he signed on for.
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My dream scenario is for Bush to drop out after being smothered by Trump and Carson, only to have both of them chicken out when they realize this isn't a book tour or fun reality show/popularity contest anymore.
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Remember all the "soul searching" and reform/outreach that happened after the last two elections? Neither do I, this is going to be fun.
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