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I figured, with them implementing well-known mods like Shifter/Biomod and Kentie's launcher options like FOV natively, that they were already using DX9/DX10 for their renderer. Wouldn't be surprised if they're using a custom version for the sake of optimizing all the stuff they've pushed onto the engine, and even then it seems like it's struggling. It's certainly playable, but man this is taking me back to the days of dealing with old unoptimized UE games like Postal 2, where looking in the direction of busy scenery would just tank the framerate, even if it's technically occluded. It's cool otherwise, though, and it's doubling as a way for me to finally play with Biomod which I for some reason never did.
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It uses DX9 by default, but I use DX10 with classic rendering and it works fine.
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Oct 14, 2015 14:53
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I eventually managed to lure Paul towards the bot in a way that did not result in him turning on me. The results were disappointing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A01Jcr1baF4 Edit:  Also: I remember the original Deus Ex has this issue about being pitch black in light free areas (like anything beyond the zone of a street light) unless you got a fix. The mod appears to be suffering from the same issue - any fixes yet? In related news - any way to bind the flashlight to anything other than F12, so I can stop taking screenshot all the time? Xander77 fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 16:51
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Xander77 posted:In related news - any way to bind the flashlight to anything other than F12, so I can stop taking screenshot all the time? In the keybinds menu you can, rather counter-intuitively, bind a key to F12 that will work as a flashlight key.
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Oct 14, 2015 16:53
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Dr Snofeld posted:In the keybinds menu you can, rather counter-intuitively, bind a key to F12 that will work as a flashlight key. ... Gamma issues solution in general?
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Oct 14, 2015 16:57
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Is there a way to get the Hazmat Suit and similar items to stop making noise? Environmental Training is finally useful but that wubbing noise is really irritating. e: Saving/reloading seems to help? Sometimes?
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Oct 14, 2015 17:42
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Xander77 posted:I eventually managed to lure Paul towards the bot in a way that did not result in him turning on me. The results were disappointing:  Alabaster White posted:Is there a way to get the Hazmat Suit and similar items to stop making noise? Environmental Training is finally useful but that wubbing noise is really irritating.
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Oct 14, 2015 19:50
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Lork posted:Wait, so even the updated replacement for the GEP gun still cuts off at widescreen FOVs? It cuts off at about 88 FOV, but it's fine at 85. Yes, the HD model/texture pack, apparently updated for this mod of a PC game in 2015, isn't designed for 90 FOV. Maybe it's some silly engine limit or something, tho, I wouldn't put it past Ion Storm's weirdass code to lock that in place somehow.
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Oct 14, 2015 20:03
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Well now I can't change my brightness in Revision and it forces the game to be really really dark.  edit: Verified cache on both Revision and Deus Ex and now everything is fine again. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 20:08
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Alabaster White posted:Is there a way to get the Hazmat Suit and similar items to stop making noise? Environmental Training is finally useful but that wubbing noise is really irritating. I made a modified version of the sounds package for you. Replace the DeusExSounds.u file in your Deus Ex/System directory with this one: https://mega.nz/#!n5FnXSJC!RDUrRXXpc4uGvSbK1YKZoxBKh_2lj4KWNDnO8imPtCU
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Oct 14, 2015 20:27
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I get a crash and an out of virtual memory, free up space on your HD (what, more than the quarter terabyte I already have?) message either toward the end of the opening cinematic or when trying to load the first map. It's just playing Deus Ex in 2000!
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Oct 15, 2015 04:04
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Try manually setting your page file at something like 1500MB. Older games tend to freak the gently caress out whenever the page file gets over 2GB, since the "how much virtual memory do I have left?" API call starts overflowing when you toss it into a 32 bit integer.
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Oct 15, 2015 04:38
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What was the deal with the stupid pre order bonus thing? How'd it work/what was in it/what's happening to the stuff that would've been given? I take it that mankind wasn't divided on it being bad though... HEH.
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Oct 15, 2015 05:40
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I just noticed, if you get killed by the pimp hassling Sandra in Hell's Kitchen, one of his 'I killed you' barks is 'Suck it down!' Ion Storm 
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Oct 15, 2015 07:18
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So last time I played Deus Ex was at least 10 years ago and this is the first time I'm going full non-lethal with Biomod on. I'm in Hell's Kitchen now but I was wondering when I get to see the new weapons/augmentations. If I upgrade pistols will I be able to one-shot people with the crossbow + tranquilizer darts? If not, is there a ranged non-lethal option in Biomod?
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Oct 15, 2015 08:17
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Anatharon posted:What was the deal with the stupid pre order bonus thing? How'd it work/what was in it/what's happening to the stuff that would've been given? They're including all the preorder bonuses now, whereas you had to pick between them before.
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Oct 15, 2015 09:06
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Ekster posted:So last time I played Deus Ex was at least 10 years ago and this is the first time I'm going full non-lethal with Biomod on. I'm in Hell's Kitchen now but I was wondering when I get to see the new weapons/augmentations. If I upgrade pistols will I be able to one-shot people with the crossbow + tranquilizer darts? If not, is there a ranged non-lethal option in Biomod?
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Oct 15, 2015 10:10
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Just checked. Deus Ex still owns.
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Oct 15, 2015 10:20
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Little known protip from an old veteran player. Gas Grenades are awesome. Everyone should know this, however you need to combine them with the Prod. A person incapacitated with gas goes down in one shot from the prod, don't try to use the baton. Now for the protip, the environmental skill is one of those skills that has a hidden power, you take less damage (>50%) from coughing effects including enemy tranq darts, gas grenades and flame throwers just from one point in the skill. It does this passively and there is no indication it's working except that you won't die from a gas grenade/tranq anymore. It also stacks with the environmental aug and using a hazmat suit allowing you to be basically immune to those effects. The flamethrower resistance isn't typically significant (you'll die almost immediately from flames regardless) but it's interesting none-the-less.
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Oct 15, 2015 10:34
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Party Plane Jones posted:I just noticed, if you get killed by the pimp hassling Sandra in Hell's Kitchen, one of his 'I killed you' barks is 'Suck it down!' Oh man thank you for reminding me of this.
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Oct 15, 2015 17:32
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Party Plane Jones posted:I just noticed, if you get killed by the pimp hassling Sandra in Hell's Kitchen, one of his 'I killed you' barks is 'Suck it down!' How can you even get killed by him? I always taser him in the head before he can do anything in pretty much every playthrough. Such an rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 15, 2015 17:45
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Ekster posted:So last time I played Deus Ex was at least 10 years ago and this is the first time I'm going full non-lethal with Biomod on. I'm in Hell's Kitchen now but I was wondering when I get to see the new weapons/augmentations. If I upgrade pistols will I be able to one-shot people with the crossbow + tranquilizer darts? If not, is there a ranged non-lethal option in Biomod? It's worth noting that in Shifter and Biomod, if you've not been killing much up til now (that is, you were non-lethal enough in Liberty Island that Paul approved, and you didn't charge into Castle Clinton with Anna) Paul will leave you a unique baton in his hotel room that does significantly more non-lethal damage than the usual one, enough to usually one-shot an unsuspecting enemy. I believe you can still get it later if you play lethally but I'm not sure where it is in that case. Also worth noting that in Biomod, you can't move silently with the Speed augmentation even if you're crouched, but the Silent Running augmentation is passive and doesn't drain any energy. In vanilla there's literally no reason to take Silent Running but I actually favour it in Biomod.
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tripwood posted:How can you even get killed by him? I always taser him in the head before he can do anything in pretty much every playthrough. Such an rear end in a top hat. I always intimidate him into leaving, one of my favorite dialogues in the game. "Easy bro"
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Thanks for the tips guys. I've checked out some wikis on the mini-crossbow + tranq darts and apparently it knocks out standard guards with a headshot at max skill level so that's good to know. I already found Paul's baton (or rather, blackjack) and it works great for melee yeah.
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Oct 15, 2015 18:15
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Paul's blackjack is OP as heck. You can smash a lot of doors with it that I don't think you are supposed to be able to smash.
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Seriously now. This is what an unmodded version of the original Deus Ex does to shadows unless you install a fix to make it play nice. Are you telling me that that's just what Revision looks like by default, and there's no fix for it? (Also, it seems like all the hidden medbots are gone from Liberty Island)
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Xander77 posted:Seriously now. This is what an unmodded version of the original Deus Ex does to shadows unless you install a fix to make it play nice. Are you telling me that that's just what Revision looks like by default, and there's no fix for it? The medbot crate by the bunker still exists, at least.
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Xander77 posted:Seriously now. This is what an unmodded version of the original Deus Ex does to shadows unless you install a fix to make it play nice. Are you telling me that that's just what Revision looks like by default, and there's no fix for it? Yes. The shadows are pitch black and there's no way to fix it. The medbots are there, they've just been moved. Edit: I'm also getting horrible performance issues. The game will just lag out for seconds at a time. KillHour fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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tripwood posted:How can you even get killed by him? I always taser him in the head before he can do anything in pretty much every playthrough. Such an rear end in a top hat. Revision really ramped up the accuracy of enemies apparently, and I never actually saw the entire conversation between him and Sandra before. So when he pulled out his shotgun I was surprised.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:22
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tripwood posted:How can you even get killed by him? I always taser him in the head before he can do anything in pretty much every playthrough. Such an rear end in a top hat. I got killed by the backalley drug dealer in Hong Kong one time. 
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On my GMDX run I kill traded with Jojo (I think Jojo?) several times before just capping him outright.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:32
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Jojo's the dude who stands by while you murder Sandra's dad in the 'Ton. He's talking about the generic pimp who's hassling her in the alley the first time you go to Hell's Kitchen.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Jojo's the dude who stands by while you murder Sandra's dad in the 'Ton. He's talking about the generic pimp who's hassling her in the alley the first time you go to Hell's Kitchen. To make the quote even more of a Romero cameo the guy's name is Johnny.
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Party Plane Jones posted:To make the quote even more of a Romero cameo the guy's name is Johnny. That's right, Johnny. I felt Jojo was wrong somehow.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Revision really ramped up the accuracy of enemies apparently, and I never actually saw the entire conversation between him and Sandra before. So when he pulled out his shotgun I was surprised. I'm playing on medium+vanilla settings, testing things out and these nsf nerds are terrible as ever at aiming... What difficulty are you playing and isn't that just a Shifter thing? Edit; Btw, might be old hat but you can bring up an advanced options menu by pressing ` for the console and then typing 'preferences' without the quotes. Back in the Unreal 1 days i used that for various stuff related to my audio i think. heard u like girls fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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I'm playing on Realistic. Going up against dudes at close range without ballistic protection is like a death sentence and the snipers actually seem to hit you way more than I remember (or maybe there's just more of them period)
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alright so something happened when I got to Hong Kong and for some reason my footstep sounds were replaced with low-pitched talking and grunting sounds that made it sound like my feet were beat-boxing  I wanted to record it but FRAPs couldn't work whilst the game was running.
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Jblade posted:alright so something happened when I got to Hong Kong and for some reason my footstep sounds were replaced with low-pitched talking and grunting sounds that made it sound like my feet were beat-boxing this sounds like a feature to me
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I'm increasingly questioning the veracity of those who say they can't see any gameplay difference between DX and Revision. Admittedly I'm running it in Biomod mode, but just from searching Liberty Island I'm going into my next mission rocking a massive stockpile of weapons and ammo including a modded-up sniper rifle, and a fully-loaded-and-then-some GEP Gun. Also, for anyone having weird lighting/renderer issues, make sure you've got a CLEAN install of Deus Ex. You may need to manually scrub the directory in Steam. Revision comes with its own DX9 renderer and it doesn't play nice with the DX10 one.
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Dominic White posted:I'm increasingly questioning the veracity of those who say they can't see any gameplay difference between DX and Revision. Admittedly I'm running it in Biomod mode, but just from searching Liberty Island I'm going into my next mission rocking a massive stockpile of weapons and ammo including a modded-up sniper rifle, and a fully-loaded-and-then-some GEP Gun. Also, anyone got the codes for the new areas in the UNATCO (Savage) base? Or do they not work until you find them in-game while escaping?
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