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It's not really characterization because there is no way this would be passed along to other characters. It's just lazy writing to get around the fact that they want to publish a Jason Todd book but not put the effort into writing it. It isn't the only time this has happened. It's pretty bog-standard for 'Punisher'-style heroes to basically get an exemption from people who otherwise wouldn't give them an exemption because otherwise they can't exist. The entire Batman Family will be right back to ignore it the second someone decides to do a story that isn't about Jason Todd.
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The best solution would have been to leave red hood in the rogues gallery. OR LEFT JASON TODD DEAD
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Oct 14, 2015 23:37
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Norns posted:The best solution would have been to leave JASON TODD DEAD
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Oct 14, 2015 23:39
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Did Jason Todd or Bucky come back from the dead first? Bucky was dead a whole hell of a lot longer, obviously. Rhyno posted:Which would have robbed us of the Under the Red Hood animated film, the best animated DC film to date. Mask of the Phantasm still exists, so purple death ray fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 23:46
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Norns posted:The best solution would have been to leave red hood in the rogues gallery. OR LEFT JASON TODD DEAD Which would have robbed us of the Under the Red Hood animated film, the best animated DC film to date.
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Oct 14, 2015 23:47
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Travis343 posted:Did Jason Todd or Bucky come back from the dead first? They both came back in 2005, with Bucky coming back in January and Jason coming back that February.
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Oct 15, 2015 00:04
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DrProsek posted:They both came back in 2005, with Bucky coming back in January and Jason coming back that February. So close enough together that it's probably a weird coincidence rather than outright plagiarism. Athough Bucky coming back was, I think we can all agree (DT excepted) handled far better.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:40
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Yvonmukluk posted:So close enough together that it's probably a weird coincidence rather than outright plagiarism. Bucky coming back (and correct me if I am wrong because I never read the comics) seemed like they had a long plan for the character, while after Winnick's Under the Hood arc no-one had a clue on how to handle Todd or what to even do with the character. There seemed to be such little planning involved with Todd after the UtH arc that it just seemed like a waste to bring him back at all.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:30
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Madkal posted:Bucky coming back (and correct me if I am wrong because I never read the comics) seemed like they had a long plan for the character, while after Winnick's Under the Hood arc no-one had a clue on how to handle Todd or what to even do with the character. There seemed to be such little planning involved with Todd after the UtH arc that it just seemed like a waste to bring him back at all. Correct. Winnick originally planned Jason to be a one shot villian but he was popular and editorial continued using him. Back when they planned killing Dick during IC the plan was for Jason to become Nightwing and Bruce Jones was even brought aboard with the idea of writing Jason. When Dick was spared Jones had to change everything on the last minute. Then they tried to use Coutdown to turn Jason into Red Robin but Morrison' plans derailed that too. Then he was turned into a villian by Daniels but the sucess of the animated movie made DC reconsider this direction, eventually leading to RHATO. The first time DC has had a direction for Jason.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:40
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Then he was turned into a villian by Daniels but the sucess of the animated movie made DC reconsider this direction, eventually leading to RHATO. The first time DC has had a direction for Jason. Black Mask and Joker were the best parts of the animated movie not Jason. And Jason was a villain in the movie as well, A role he is much more entertaining in. I don't understand how the movie featuring him as a villain led DC to make him an anti hero. (Like wise Black Mask and Joker were the best parts of the comic story line it was based on. With Mask beating out Joker due to showing up more and being way more entertaining.) MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 03:27
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Yvonmukluk posted:So close enough together that it's probably a weird coincidence rather than outright plagiarism. Rhyno posted:Which would have robbed us of the Under the Red Hood animated film, the best animated DC film to date.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:32
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Endless Mike posted:It also would have robbed us of DT's fine posting, so I agree with your assessment that this would be a huge loss. poo poo. Does anyone have some sort of pan-dimensional-jump-belt so I can hop over to Universe B and see what the forums are like with out DT?
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Oct 15, 2015 03:38
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It's funny how you goons get so angry about D_T harmlessly posting about something they like that you end up cluttering up the thread more than they ever have with your snarky remarks about them. They almost never even respond to your lovely 'burns' and you act like you're totally showing them who's boss.
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Oct 15, 2015 05:14
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Yeah knock that poo poo off. I said before let him enjoy his books and quit making a big deal out of it. There's no harm in posting about books you like even if nobody else likes them. Put him on ignore if you can bear to see him talk about books he likes, he's not done anything terrible since I told him to knock off the stupidity. He's only talked about books he likes. Now it's time to leave him alone.
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Oct 15, 2015 05:21
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I remember (late 70's? early 80's?) when Rick Jones became Bucky after a rampaging hulk left the boy unconscious and Cap took him in. It was an awesome Hydra story.
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So, comics came out yesterday that where not Redhood, and I liked some of them. Constantine: The Hellblazer wrapped up it's first major story line. The book has done a good job of establishing John as a bastard that screws over his friends, though this story seemed to wrap up a little to neatly despite that. I hope the next issues takes a moment to explore how this affected John personally. I really need to get around to reading the Vertigo series to better judge this one, but lack time and money at the moment. JLU continues to be interesting with how they slowly reveal the reason for each team members inclusion for a mission. Make's me all the more disappointed they will be cancelling the series, as I like the overall concept and the resultant mishmash of characters.
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Oct 15, 2015 15:35
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glitchwraith posted:So, comics came out yesterday that where not Redhood, and I liked some of them. If you read digitally there is a poo poo ton on sale right now
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Oct 15, 2015 15:51
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bobkatt013 posted:If you read digitally there is a poo poo ton on sale right now I've only been reading digital through Marvel Unlimited. That said, $5 a volume is kind of hard to turn down. I'll have to check my budget, but I may be able to pick up a few. Thanks for the heads up!
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Oct 15, 2015 16:07
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Jurgens talks about Lois & Clarkquote:Nrama: OK, so let's get into the meat of the story. Clark's been secretly influencing things in the main DCU earth?
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Are you guys ready for Lobdell to write Teen Titans again? http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/10/15/a-few-dc-comics-solicitation-ch-ch-changes-from-the-last-few-weeks/
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Are you guys ready for Lobdell to write Teen Titans again?  Well that makes dropping Teen Titans a much easier decision.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Are you guys ready for Lobdell to write Teen Titans again? The New52 iteration of Titans deserves Lobdell. Hopefully his addition will make the Titans stay cancelled this time.
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Oct 16, 2015 01:01
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Teen Titans: the franchise DC has the least idea of what to do with, circa 2006 at the very least.
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Oct 16, 2015 01:10
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I must be in the minority because I don't hate the New 52/current Teen Titans.
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Verranicus posted:I must be in the minority because I don't hate the New 52/current Teen Titans. Both versions? There's a pretty stark difference between the two guys who've written it. Verranicus posted:Batwoman, the art style was just not for me.
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Oct 16, 2015 02:55
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Teenage Fansub posted:Both versions? I guess I just find it hard to really hate anything. So far of all the New 52 comics I've read the only one I actually gave up on was Batwoman, the art style was just not for me.
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Oct 16, 2015 03:31
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glitchwraith posted:JLU continues to be interesting with how they slowly reveal the reason for each team members inclusion for a mission. Make's me all the more disappointed they will be cancelling the series, as I like the overall concept and the resultant mishmash of characters. The first issue with Sgt. Rock was starting to lose me, but the second pulled me right back in. Loving how the series uses so many characters from across the spectrum without seeming too packed. C'mon DC, instead of canceling it, just keep the JLU acronym and call it Justice League Unlimited 2 or something.
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Was there ever a story where Batman won by being good at trading card games or something silly like that? Cause he trained to be good at everything.
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Verranicus posted:I guess I just find it hard to really hate anything. So far of all the New 52 comics I've read the only one I actually gave up on was Batwoman, the art style was just not for me. You've got some very contrary opinions there. New 52's original, Lobdell written Teen Titans run is in the running for worst ongoing comic DC has produced in the New 52. It is filled with ridiculous plotholes, character assassination, terrible dialogue, disastrous story arcs, obnoxious angst, and pointless awful drama. There's not a single redeeming thing about it aside from the times Rocafort's on art (a lot of the time Brett Booth is on the art and the art matches the terrible, terrible writing).
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Teenage Fansub posted:Both versions? Wait, two guys? I thought Lobdell was still on Titans. I picked up an issue after the new Power Girl came in and I seem to remember it was poo poo so I thought it was Lobdell.
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Oct 16, 2015 06:59
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It makes me irrationally angry that Teen Titans isn't one of DC's best books. Just make the book decent and you can coast on name value. Titans and Flash are a testament to how DC can gently caress up an easy hit.
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Oct 16, 2015 07:08
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Two Tone Shoes posted:You've got some very contrary opinions there. Bunker was loving awesome and his bromance with both Kon and Gar was the best thing. The issue were they teamed up with the Outlaws was also fantastic. The book also had a lot of different artists, of the top of my mind Barrows was solid even his faces were creepy at times while Kirkham was by far the best artist on the book. In any case, the book under Lobdell was defintely better than with Pfeifer
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TwoPair posted:Wait, two guys? I thought Lobdell was still on Titans. I picked up an issue after the new Power Girl came in and I seem to remember it was poo poo so I thought it was Lobdell. Will Pfeifer relaunched it last year. I thought it was pretty decent, though I fell off months ago. Lobdell http://www.comicvine.com/teen-titans/4050-43004/?page=1&sortBy=asc Pfeifer http://www.comicvine.com/teen-titans/4050-75697/?page=1&sortBy=asc
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Oct 16, 2015 07:48
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Two Tone Shoes posted:You've got some very contrary opinions there. Yeah, I dunno, I guess I just try to like everything. I'm just a casual comic reader and I essentially have access to any comic I could ever want to read for free thanks to knowing a few people who own stores. It's kind of crazy how rabid people in here can get over what are essentially cartoons.
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Verranicus posted:Yeah, I dunno, I guess I just try to like everything. I'm just a casual comic reader and I essentially have access to any comic I could ever want to read for free thanks to knowing a few people who own stores. It's kind of crazy how rabid people in here can get over what are essentially cartoons. Yeah its pretty nuts that people are passionate about comics in a forum and thread made specifically for them. 
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Oct 16, 2015 14:36
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Norns posted:Yeah its pretty nuts that people are passionate about comics in a forum and thread made specifically for them. There's passionate and then there's spending pages talking poo poo about people for liking different comics than the majority, though.
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January's theme variant is "Color your own cover"  January’s Complete Lineup of Variant Covers: Action Comics #48 by Scott Kollins Aquaman #48 by Andy Kuhn Batman #48 by Dave Johnson Batman/Superman #28 by Freddie Williams Cyborg #7 by Derec Donovan Deathstroke #14 by Emanuella Luppicino Detective Comics #48 by Timothy Green Flash #48 by Derec Donovan Grayson #16 by Aaron Lopresti Green Arrow #48 by Cully Hamner Green Lantern#48 by Michael Allred Justice League #48 by Scott Kollins JLA #8 by Cully Hamner Lois and Clark #4 by Aaron Lopresti Martian Manhunter #8 by Andy Kuhn Red Hood/Arsenal #8 by Scott McDaniel Robin Son of Batman #8 by Sanford Greene Sinestro #19 by Derec Donovan Starfire #8 by Dave Taylor Superman #48 by Andy Smith Superman/ Wonder Woman #25 by Aaron Lopresti Teen Titans #16 by Timothy Green Titans Hunt #4 Scott McDaniel We Are Robin #8 by Freddie Williams Wonder Woman #48 by Emanuella Luppicino Kind of a lame theme but gently caress it, Red Hood/Arsenal finally got in the variant fun!  
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Oct 16, 2015 18:55
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Naw that actually looks fun to color.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:11
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Not lame. gently caress colour.   They should bring back gimmick month and go uncoloured. They do put out those 'noir' editions of Batman stories, so someone there must be into it.
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It's kind of sad that kids won't get to colour in those comic covers.
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