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Another KS just launched that my friends are excited about. Sword & Sorcery. Its some DM-less, mini's, dungeon crawl game. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1402889231/sword-and-sorcery-epic-fantasy-co-op-board-and-min/description There is a first 24hours limited early bird price.
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I'm kind of bummed that he's going to put the expansion direct-to-retail. It's great for most people, but for me KS is convenient and because I'm in the ME the shipping is about the same anyway (if retail will even send me the stuff). But of course I wouldn't expect him to change things especially for an edge case like me. I have options, they're just less convenient.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:44
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It sounds like Jamey works with the same distributors on his direct to market products as he does with Kickstarter. He'll probably throw up a pre-order page for expansions like he did with the Viticulture Essentials edition, and in his post about that process he talks about distributing product to his various global distributors, the same way he does with Kickstarter.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:49
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I'm kinda curious how much of the expansion they already have planned, since it would theoretically mean they can plan ahead and fit it all in one box, unlike Viticulture/Tuscany.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:52
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ChiTownEddie posted:Another KS just launched that my friends are excited about. Sword & Sorcery. Its some DM-less, mini's, dungeon crawl game. Huh, this looks like the kind of game I was asking about yesterday in the chat thread (a lighter Descent-style crawler that can be played solo), but $100? That's probably out of my price range.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:56
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FISHMANPET posted:It sounds like Jamey works with the same distributors on his direct to market products as he does with Kickstarter. He'll probably throw up a pre-order page for expansions like he did with the Viticulture Essentials edition, and in his post about that process he talks about distributing product to his various global distributors, the same way he does with Kickstarter. Oh, if I can buy directly from Jamey's store that'll be excellent!
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GrandpaPants posted:I'm kinda curious how much of the expansion they already have planned, since it would theoretically mean they can plan ahead and fit it all in one box, unlike Viticulture/Tuscany. Some quotes, although it doesn't really address the same box thing. "We're planning 2 expansion factions (Celtic and Japanese inspired), but the max player count will remain at 5." "They're just conceptual at this point. We don't like to release expansions at the same time as the base game, as it kind of takes away the thrill of adding new stuff to the game after you've already played it for a while." "The expansion factions are still in flux, so we're open to ideas for them. Though the purple faction is intended to be Japanese-inspired." "It's possible in the future that we'll have more than one faction per color (you could only use one at a time)." Mostly from August, so relatively recent. I kinda doubt it'll be a one box thing :P E: Evil Mastermind posted:Huh, this looks like the kind of game I was asking about yesterday in the chat thread (a lighter Descent-style crawler that can be played solo), but $100? That's probably out of my price range. It is based off Galaxy Defenders' system (same company, they just refined their idea apparently), maybe ask in the thread if anyone has played that one?
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Oct 15, 2015 16:59
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ChiTownEddie posted:Another KS just launched that my friends are excited about. Sword & Sorcery. Its some DM-less, mini's, dungeon crawl game. Seems pretty generic. Plus tits, so I'm sure it'll do well, especially if there's a stretch goal or two adding more boob girls.
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Oct 15, 2015 17:02
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Pretty sure I saw somewhere in the comments that the existing box is going to be full to the brim leaving no room for an expansion in the box, and that moving to a bigger box would make everything drastically more expensive.
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Oct 15, 2015 17:06
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Jus got the notification that my copy of Blood Rage was delivered. Looking forward to cracking that open when I get home.
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Oct 15, 2015 18:08
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My Dracula Dossier / Dracula Unredacted came. The books are gorgeous, and I love the idea of Dracula Unredacted as a book. Honestly, if that stupid Pride and Prejudice and Zombies can become a movie, Dracula Unredacted absolutely deserves to be made.
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Oct 15, 2015 18:37
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Leperflesh posted:Seems pretty generic. Plus tits, so I'm sure it'll do well, especially if there's a stretch goal or two adding more boob girls. They will add one boob to each girl per $100k raised by the campaign. V20: Lore of the Clans just released the final PDF, haven't had the chance to read it but that's some solid progress.
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Oct 15, 2015 18:40
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Evil Mastermind posted:Huh, this looks like the kind of game I was asking about yesterday in the chat thread (a lighter Descent-style crawler that can be played solo), but $100? That's probably out of my price range. ChiTownEddie posted:
I haven't played the Galaxy Defenders expansion stuff yet, but the base game was really great with only some minor stuff that kinda sucked (character could die so player removal. I house ruled it out). It seems with this one they already addressed some issues (no player elimination) and it seems like it's a similar system to GD but with some pretty cool changes. I backed myself because I feel like the company gives you your money's worth.
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Oct 15, 2015 19:00
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Andarel posted:They will add one boob to each girl per $100k raised by the campaign. I would take out a loan to support that
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Oct 15, 2015 19:11
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Tulul posted:Call of Cthulhu quote Tulul posted:Dunwich Horror quote Tulul posted:Shadow Over Innsmouth quote Tulul posted:The Street quote
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Oct 15, 2015 19:22
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Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family posted:The boxed object was delivered at Jermyn House on the afternoon of August 3, 1913, being conveyed immediately to the large chamber which housed the collection of African specimens as arranged by Sir Robert and Arthur. What ensued can best be gathered from the tales of servants and from things and papers later examined. Of the various tales, that of aged Soames, the family butler, is most ample and coherent. According to this trustworthy man, Sir Arthur Jermyn dismissed everyone from the room before opening the box, though the instant sound of hammer and chisel showed that he did not delay the operation. Nothing was heard for some time; just how long Soames cannot exactly estimate, but it was certainly less than a quarter of an hour later that the horrible scream, undoubtedly in Jermyn’s voice, was heard. Immediately afterward Jermyn emerged from the room, rushing frantically toward the front of the house as if pursued by some hideous enemy. The expression on his face, a face ghastly enough in repose, was beyond description. When near the front door he seemed to think of something, and turned back in his flight, finally disappearing down the stairs to the cellar. The servants were utterly dumbfounded, and watched at the head of the stairs, but their master did not return. A smell of oil was all that came up from the regions below. After dark a rattling was heard at the door leading from the cellar into the courtyard; and a stable-boy saw Arthur Jermyn, glistening from head to foot with oil and redolent of that fluid, steal furtively out and vanish on the black moor surrounding the house. Then, in an exaltation of supreme horror, everyone saw the end. A spark appeared on the moor, a flame arose, and a pillar of human fire reached to the heavens. The house of Jermyn no longer existed. The Transition of Juan Romero posted:It was not long after my arrival and employment that Juan Romero came to the Norton Mine. One of the large herd of unkempt Mexicans attracted thither from the neighbouring country, he at first attracted attention only because of his features; which though plainly of the Red Indian type, were yet remarkable for their light colour and refined conformation, being vastly unlike those of the average "greaser" or Piute of the locality. It is curious that although he differed so widely from the mass of Hispanicised and tribal Indians, Romero gave not the least impression of Caucasian blood. It was not the Castilian conquistador or the American pioneer, but the ancient and noble Aztec, whom imagination called to view when the silent peon would rise in the early morning and gaze in fascination at the sun as it crept above the eastern hills, meanwhile stretching out his arms to the orb as if in the performance of some rite whose nature he did not himself comprehend. But save for his face, Romero was not in any way suggestive of nobility. Ignorant and dirty, he was at home amongst the other brown-skinned Mexicans; having come (so I was afterward told) from the very lowest sort of surroundings. He had been found as a child in a crude mountain hut, the only survivor of an epidemic which had stalked lethally by. Near the hut, close to a rather unusual rock fissure, had lain two skeletons, newly picked by vultures, and presumably forming the sole remains of his parents. No one recalled their identity, and they were soon forgotten by the many. Indeed, the crumbling of the adobe hut and the closing of the rock-fissure by a subsequent avalanche had helped to efface even the scene from recollection. Reared by a Mexican cattle-thief who had given him his name, Juan differed little from his fellows. An American to Mother England posted:England! My England! can the surging sea Lines on Gen. Robert Edward Lee posted:Whilst martial echoes o’er the wave resound, On the Creation of Niggers posted:When, long ago, the gods created Earth
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berzerkmonkey posted:You do realize he's talking about fish people, right? The fish people are not just fish people. While, as demonstrated by the quotes Tulul provided, Lovecraft wasn't shy about being racist as gently caress, he still used his fictional creations as stand-ins for the kinds of people that scared him. The Deep Ones represent immigrants, obviously those of non-white origin. Obed Marsh is "corrupted" by fraternizing with Polynesian natives, and the hybrids are the the results of miscegenation (which Lovecraft was terrified of) between the white inhabitants of Innsmouth and the Deep Ones. I hesitate to even call it subtext. Racism is pretty blatant in Lovecraft's work. I'm surprised no one pointed to "Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family" which in addition to having the most boring title possible also concludes with a white man burning himself alive because he can't deal with the fact that his great-grandmother was a "white ape" from Africa. E: holy poo poo loving beaten. Also, lol owned
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Oct 15, 2015 19:45
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Also the name of his cat
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S.J. posted:Also the name of his cat The Rats in the Walls posted:As I have said, I moved in on 16 July 1923. My household consisted of seven servants and nine cats, of which latter species I am particularly fond. My eldest cat, "friend of the family-Man", was seven years old and had come with me from my home in Bolton, Massachusetts; the others I had accumulated whilst living with Capt. Norrys' family during the restoration of the priory.
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S.J. posted:Also the name of his cat Oh, I'm totally on board with that one. Serf posted:The fish people are not just fish people. While, as demonstrated by the quotes Tulul provided, Lovecraft wasn't shy about being racist as gently caress, he still used his fictional creations as stand-ins for the kinds of people that scared him. The Deep Ones represent immigrants, obviously those of non-white origin. Obed Marsh is "corrupted" by fraternizing with Polynesian natives, and the hybrids are the the results of miscegenation (which Lovecraft was terrified of) between the white inhabitants of Innsmouth and the Deep Ones. I hesitate to even call it subtext. Racism is pretty blatant in Lovecraft's work. I agree that there is some stuff there, and I'm not condoning it at all, but I think people really go cherrypicking for things in his stories just to prove their racism angle correct. I know that Lovecraft's personal writings were pretty terrible, but I think that a lot of the Mythos stuff is misconstrued as racism, when, in fact, he's talking about corruption at a core level.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Oh, I'm totally on board with that one. There are a lot of people out there who will interpret any fantasy as allegorical. Lovecraft has many letters, it's probably a known fact whether he meant those stories are allegories or as purely fantastical tales. I don't know. Either way, the guy is disturbingly racist, and like Serf is saying, that creeps into his stories in a very noticeable way even if the creatures aren't meant to have a one-on-one relation to real-life people. I just wish RPG designers would let go of the Mythos already. It's been overdone at this point. Cyphoderus fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 20:22
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berzerkmonkey posted:Yeah, but those natives were also worshiping and interbreeding with Deep Ones, hence the corruption angle. And the "white ape" is clearly some sort of missing link ape-man hybrid creature - it has nothing to do with race at all! Except that the natives and the Deep Ones are one and the same. The Deep Ones represent Lovecraft's fear of immigrants and the hybrids are the mixed-race children that come with them. Given the time in which the story was written, I don't think we need to look to hard to figure out what the "white ape" represents. Where Lovecraft's racism isn't blatantly presented to us, it is still lurking just off to the side like one of the monsters in his stories. Many of the works that are derivative of him feature a lot of that, mostly without realizing it. I mean the Call of Cthulhu d20 book featured the Tcho-Tcho in the bestiary as recently as fuckin 2001. Of course no one working on it thought "hey maybe having Tibetan cannibals turned Asian-gangsters in our game as a monster with a statblock is kinda racist" because we're talking about tabletop games and who are we kidding.
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Cyphoderus posted:I just wish RPG designers would let go of the Mythos already. It's been overdone at this point. It's really a shame they don't get with the program and start making more games about zombies, dicklions, and zombie dicklions. Edit: but really, I am sick of Lovecraft. Cthulu is bacon and Chuck Norris arranged in indescribable non-Euclidean geometry that is nonetheless exhaustively cataloged and thoroughly described. homullus fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 20:49
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Up until this moment, I didn't really believe there were people stupid enough to deny Lovecraft's racism. Guess I know better now! 
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Oct 15, 2015 21:06
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Up until this moment, I didn't really believe there were people stupid enough to deny Lovecraft's racism. Guess I know better now! Don't be a dick - nobody is denying it, I'm just saying that it isn't as prevalent in Mythins stories as people make it out to be.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Don't be a dick - nobody is denying it, I'm just saying that it isn't as prevalent in Mythins stories as people make it out to be. Ultimately that decision is up to the reader. I personally find Lovecraft's writings absolutely steeped in anxiety about the human-seeming yet ultimately alien and degenerate "other" claiming their victims.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:18
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berzerkmonkey posted:Oh, I'm totally on board with that one. The cat is the last thing you should be on board with. The squadron mascot of the Dambusters was a dog called friend of the family, and it had nothing to do with racism beyond the casual "what's wrong with that?" sense.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:42
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Up until this moment, I didn't really believe there were people stupid enough to deny Lovecraft's racism. Guess I know better now! No one denied it. You are being an rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 16, 2015 00:09
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The Lovecraft discussion would fit better in the Lovecraft thread.
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Oct 16, 2015 02:42
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What's the status/timeline of the Ryuutama supplemental material? The game dropped completely off my radar until the beautiful hardcover showed up on my doorstep, and now I'm incredibly jazzed to have more more more of it. I looked over the Kickstarter page, but couldn't find a good list of what all I'm getting with my original Electronic Plus Plus other than the one in the original project post, or a timeline of how it's all looking (specifically, after reading Jim Butcher's new Steampunk book, I want to play an Air Pilot character...)
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Oct 16, 2015 04:29
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Just as a heads-up for people who were asking about Rippers: someone from Pinnacle went on RPGNet and said (without getting spoilery)quote:We aren't going to retcon it, but the damning aspect of Rippertech is gone and the players discover why during the course of the new Plot Point Campaign. Rather than pretend it never happened and discount the first Plot Point Campaign and the actions of the previous heroes, it's explained how it was overcome because those heroes discovered the truth. I guess that makes sense for people who played through the old version.
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Oct 16, 2015 16:08
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Impossible Landscapes, the Carcosa campaign has been unlocked! Get the PDF for $20 or the book for $50. Plus we have new shipping rates for the UK and Canada: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arcdream/delta-green-the-role-playing-game/posts/1384584
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Cyphoderus posted:I just wish RPG designers would let go of the Mythos already. It's been overdone at this point. This. If there is one complaint I have about Ken and Robin talk about stuff, it's that they talk about too much cthulu stuff. I like all the history and other stuff but get bored and tune out whenever they start in on how to add cthulu to perfectly good and interesting material. It's still the best podcast of its type, though. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 16, 2015 21:44
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For better or worse, Cthulu does push issues off the shelves. The popularity is dying down, but it is one of those "in" nerd things at the moment. Makes sense to play to it. Though, like I said before, it's on it's way out to be replaced by some new nerdy trope. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 16, 2015 21:46
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My copy of Ryutamma just arrived!  Man, this is a pretty book.
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Covok posted:For better or worse, Cthulu does push issues off the shelves. The popularity is dying down, but it is one of those "in" nerd things at the moment. Makes sense to play to it. Though, like I said before, it's on it's way out to be replaced by some new nerdy trope. Quick, someone make a "large breasted woman feeding a zombie Cthulu bacon" boardgame featuring the cast of Dr Who and Big Bang Theory. Kickstarter exclusive Firefly figures! Expansions that replace the bacon with craft beer and coffee for the hipsters. Another expansion that has chibi Cthulu. Rules? gently caress you.
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I hope the next "in" thing is ray gun gothic. All kinds of giant space ants and 50 foot women attacking cities and poo poo. Maybe some death robots?
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LordAba posted:Quick, someone make a "large breasted woman feeding a zombie Cthulu bacon" boardgame featuring the cast of Dr Who and Big Bang Theory. Kickstarter exclusive Firefly figures! Expansions that replace the bacon with craft beer and coffee for the hipsters. Another expansion that has chibi Cthulu. I wasn't arguing in favor of sexism -- not sure how we went there -- I was just saying Cthulu is, for better or worse, popular so people use him, for better or for worse. I really don't like it, I was just saying the reasoning. Also, I really, really don't like the fact that women don't get fair representation in our industry and I don't feel my prior statement is similar to ones where someone says "sex sells" to justify unfair representation of women since including Cthulu isn't offensive, just a lazy design move. In other words, I get what you're saying -- "appealing to the common denominator for a quick buck likely means your creatively bankrupt and likely to engage in offensive behavior" --, but I feel the need to clarify that my stance.
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Jimbozig posted:This. If there is one complaint I have about Ken and Robin talk about stuff, it's that they talk about too much cthulu stuff. I like all the history and other stuff but get bored and tune out whenever they start in on how to add cthulu to perfectly good and interesting material. Saying that Kenneth Hite should talk less about how to make the Mythos interesting is pretty close to saying that he should knock it off with all this history or secret society stuff. That's a significant part of what he's built his career on. Robin Laws is no slouch in that department either; his collection "New Tales of the Yellow Sign" is a great example of interesting things to do with the themes associated with Hastur/the King in Yellow. It's totally fine if that isn't your particular thing, but judging from other kickstarters, a lot of people are still interested in either Cthulhu (as a marketing force) or in the story ideas of cosmic horror. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'd prefer for more things to be Mythos esque than directly using well known mytho characters. So basically I want more Dark Souls/Bloodborne. Is that so much to ask? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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