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Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
Do I have a mod screwing something up? - I reached 1500 people and the popup said I got a policy that makes people use bikes more, but it's not showing up in the policy selector

Edit: In fact, it also says I should have unlocked a NIMBY policy, a Old Town policy as well as the Encourage Biking policy but those aren't even options in the policy menu :(

Danith fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 16, 2015

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Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Danith posted:

Do I have a mod screwing something up? - I reached 1500 people and the popup said I got a policy that makes people use bikes more, but it's not showing up in the policy selector

Edit: In fact, it also says I should have unlocked a NIMBY policy, a Old Town policy as well as the Encourage Biking policy but those aren't even options in the policy menu :(

The developers screwed up a bit on those. Those are all city planning policies rather than the service policies you currently have access to. For some reason, you unlock them before you unlock the actual ability to use planning policies. The ones you're talking about are technically unlocked at the “Tiny Town” level, but you don't get access to the tab where you can set them until you get to “Busy Town”, which requires ~3× the population.

I'm not sure whether it's a bug or just an oversight connected to how the unlocking and milestones work. If you mouse-over the planning policy tab, it'll tell you at what level it unlocks. So it looks like it's its own separate restriction, and they just forgot that planning policies actually come much later than service policies. Alternatively, the respective categories are only locked because they're empty before the correct milestone is reached — filling them with something is what's supposed to unlock them — in which case the new After Dark policies are bugged and fail to do so properly.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 16, 2015

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

I decided to try making a map, all comments/suggestions are welcome,

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Tzen posted:

I decided to try making a map, all comments/suggestions are welcome,



Looks cool, I'll check it out when I'm done with my current city (might be a while though).

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Looks good, but I tend to shy away from maps with too many pre-made highways. Find they sort of blight the landscape and a lot of people who make maps based on real life places seem to think they have to replicate the existing highway system on the base map. Hell I'd be happy if maps just had stub connections and no through highways or trains.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.
Yeah, although you would have to at least have them crossing the map (with just a stack or something to connect them) so they get through traffic and you can access some of them after one or two tiles. Any extra highways you should build yourself to suit the city.

KillaZilla
Jan 30, 2003


Some ride.

KillaZilla fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Oct 17, 2015

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

KillaZilla posted:



Some ride.

"Carousel OF DEATH" sounds like an extremely bad horror movie.

Dred_furst
Nov 19, 2007

"Hey look, I'm flying a giant dong"
Slowly expanding outwards. Starting to expand my commercial zone up to the prison

And a closer look at oh god what is this


edit:
Not too many major traffic problems any more

And the traffic going through that junction:

Dred_furst fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Oct 17, 2015

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
anyone get a problem where your pgup/pgdn stop working mid-game?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

numlock

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

DrSunshine posted:

"Carousel OF DEATH" sounds like an extremely bad horror movie.

Something Wicked This Way Comes.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

How do leisure zones work? I made one and now I have like a street with two nightclubs next to my tax office.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Sounds like a French town we visited a couple of times when I was a kid. Two, sad ugly casinos in the middle of an industrial harbor and a sleazy carnival where I won the best drat multitool I've ever owned.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

So my computer is generally fine running this poo poo on fast on a 200k plus city but lately my computer has just been turning off while playing skylines, specially if I walk away from the computer for a moment even if I'm running on normal speed. This computer has zero issues and has been fantastic for gaming so it's really concerning. I'm guessing something is over-heating?

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003
Did you let it play for a bit while you check the temps?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Koesj posted:

Did you let it play for a bit while you check the temps?

What's the best way to check temps? I had some free little program on my last computer but people were saying the results are bullshit.

It was mostly turning off when I went away from the game. I could play it for hours and be fine, then I'd walk away for 20 min and I'd find my computer was off. It's like when the computer goes into sleep or screen saver mode or what ever that's when the trouble brews. I did just a big clean-out of my computer because this happened before and I found it was caked with dust but it was almost perfectly clean in there this time.

\/ So what should I do to avoid it? Some settings I can change? Too many mods? I don't have that many! I am playing with both euro and international buildings. But my city isn't that big, barely 80k right now.

Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Oct 17, 2015

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Baronjutter posted:

So my computer is generally fine running this poo poo on fast on a 200k plus city but lately my computer has just been turning off while playing skylines, specially if I walk away from the computer for a moment even if I'm running on normal speed. This computer has zero issues and has been fantastic for gaming so it's really concerning. I'm guessing something is over-heating?

Like 98% it's your CPU overheating, yeah.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Eric the Mauve posted:

Like 98% it's your CPU overheating, yeah.

I deleted like 150mb of assets (gently caress you reaper and your 15mb buildings) and now all I'm running are the basic gameplay mods everyone likes and the theme manager to let me have a european core surrounded by international. I never had this problem before and built way bigger cities running on max speed. Could something be wrong with my computer? A nasty mod? Or was CO right and running international and euro buildings at the same time is actually dangerous and impossible even on a beefy computer?

Supraluminal
Feb 17, 2012

Baronjutter posted:

What's the best way to check temps? I had some free little program on my last computer but people were saying the results are bullshit.

It was mostly turning off when I went away from the game. I could play it for hours and be fine, then I'd walk away for 20 min and I'd find my computer was off. It's like when the computer goes into sleep or screen saver mode or what ever that's when the trouble brews. I did just a big clean-out of my computer because this happened before and I found it was caked with dust but it was almost perfectly clean in there this time.

\/ So what should I do to avoid it? Some settings I can change? Too many mods? I don't have that many! I am playing with both euro and international buildings. But my city isn't that big, barely 80k right now.

I had a vaguely similar problem recently - my computer stopped powering up from standby (regardless of when/why it went into standby). Turned out my power supply was failing. If you have an alternate PSU to swap in, it might be worth a shot. Or you could disable standby/screensaver mode on your PC and see what happens.

Overheating is also a decent bet, though the fact that it doesn't show any problems as long as you're at the keyboard would seem to suggest that's not the issue. Still, if you feel up to it and have the means, you could try something like re-doing the thermal paste on the CPU. Maybe pull the GPU out and really blow it out thoroughly with compressed air if you haven't already.

Has it literally never shown this issue when you're actively playing? If it's done it even once, I would chalk up the timing to coincidence and assume it is in fact overheating. I know you said it's pretty clean in there, but it's possible that your parts were slightly damaged from heat when it was dirty earlier or just suffering normal degradation from aging/prolonged use. Even under good conditions, hardware can flake out over time.

monny
Oct 20, 2008

dollar dollar bill, y'all
How new is your computer? Any chance the cpu heatsink has come loose/not seated properly? If it's slightly off, you might be fine at moderate load but ~100% load might be tipping it over the edge.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Skylines killed my power supply more or less. Any sort of issue with the power supply or processor is going to get magnified by it because it is probably one of the only programs you own that will use all the cores, all at once.

It seemed really suspicious since its the first PSU I've ever killed, and I have a 7 year old computer still running on the original PSU, but apparently newer PSU's will eat their capacitors like clockwork every 3 years.

give me thread
Dec 29, 2008

zedprime posted:

It seemed really suspicious since its the first PSU I've ever killed, and I have a 7 year old computer still running on the original PSU, but apparently newer PSU's will eat their capacitors like clockwork every 3 years.
Probably depends on the psu tbh.

I use speedfan to see CPU and GPU temps, but there's other software as well, like hwmontitor.

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

So I've been to the grand city of Detroit, a town renowned for many things. Pertinent to Skylines is its street layout- it's not a straight griddy-mc-grid-grid layout, but instead has several main "spokes" running from downtown, which was a plan drawn up by Judge Woodward way back in the day. There's basically a grid system of lesser streets wedged in between the main spoke-roads, but the main thing I'm interested in is the idea of having a central point and main thoroughfares radiating outwards from it in all directions, like



Or some such.


In short, does a spider-web-like street layout work any better or worse than a straight-up grid? Is there any reason Woodward went for such a thing in Detroit in the first place?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Works better than a grid but the cross streets where the little grids intersect main thoroughfares are still a problem.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Washington DC also has crazy spiderweb streets.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
I made the most boring city

At about 11k people I noticed certain streets backing up but until then traffic was fine :v:

Edit: img fixed

Danith fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Oct 18, 2015

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006


Oy, so I had a city going along alright, and as soon as I purchased two new patches of land I noticed that the train bridge over the water caused this giant swell of water to form and also messed up a bunch of the underlying ground. Also just north of my city, the highway interchange have these huge spikes of land in between and the ground is blue and stuff. It's super weird.

What's going on with this? Is NoPillars doing something weird? (I have the new version) Or is it something else? I saved right after I purchased the new chunks of land so it's like this permanently it seems :(

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Ofaloaf posted:

So I've been to the grand city of Detroit, a town renowned for many things. Pertinent to Skylines is its street layout- it's not a straight griddy-mc-grid-grid layout, but instead has several main "spokes" running from downtown, which was a plan drawn up by Judge Woodward way back in the day. There's basically a grid system of lesser streets wedged in between the main spoke-roads, but the main thing I'm interested in is the idea of having a central point and main thoroughfares radiating outwards from it in all directions, like



Or some such.

In short, does a spider-web-like street layout work any better or worse than a straight-up grid? Is there any reason Woodward went for such a thing in Detroit in the first place?

I did that on a gimmicky Catan map that had the entire play zone as hex islands. It works wonderful up to a certain point. Eventually the center roundabout becomes a nightmare hellzone of traffic.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Does anyone have pictures on how to do a proper freight set ups to bridge your internal and external network ? I think there's some special rail setups or something?

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

I have not played for a while. Is after dark really good?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Sylink posted:

I have not played for a while. Is after dark really good?

My grumpy gus opinion on it:
-Bikes are cool but they were implemented in a sort of half-finished feeling sort of way
-Night life specializations seem totally useless. Having them or not having them seems to have no effect on your city, they're just different graphics for your commercial zones. It's all ugly vegas towers or tropical restaurants or tower hotels, no levels or different densities so regardless of your city's size you're going to get skyscraper hotels or massive casinos.
-Night/day looks cool but I find my self unable to build at night as it's too dark to see.
-Night/day levels of traffic are barely noticeable. Much like the schedules in Cities in Motion 2 day/night funding seems useless or at least there isn't enough feed back.
-Combo ship/train terminal is kinda nice.
-They finally fixed the trains getting stuck at the edge of the map bug.

Basically they added a bunch of features for features sake that can all be totally ignored with no noticeable effect on your city's function. If you like the game it's worth buying of course, it's gotten me back to playing it after not touching it for many months.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Sylink posted:

I have not played for a while. Is after dark really good?

“Really good” might be over-selling it, but it has a couple of fun bits and boba, and new options and considerations to make. Some new buildings that are a godsend (bus stations, cargo hubs) and some that are a bit broken (skate parks). The day/night cycle itself causes some interesting problems, especially when it comes to providing electricity, but it also makes cities marvellously pretty in the different light conditions you go through.

It's worth getting if you enjoy the rest of the game.

Bel Monte
Oct 9, 2012
What's broken about skate parks? I was not aware something was off about them..?

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

Thanks guys, does the DLC gently caress up mods at all? I was using a lot of the traffic control stuff previously.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Bel Monte posted:

What's broken about skate parks? I was not aware something was off about them..?

“Broken” as in “not set up in a sane way”. They have an absolutely massive happiness radius and are ridiculously tiny and easy to place compared to just about anything else in the recreation category.

I suppose it could be seen as a case of every cim falling into one of two categories: either they are all secret z-boys wannabes or they are really tired that kids keep using the vertical parking spaces behind the local supermarket as a half ramp. Either way, they're absolutely ecstatic that there's a new skate bowl on the other side of town. :v:

In fact, almost all the new leisure/recreation buildings are a bit over the top in the happiness they provide, except maybe the volleyball arena. It makes it a lot easier to push offices to lvl 3, though.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Oct 18, 2015

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Sylink posted:

Thanks guys, does the DLC gently caress up mods at all? I was using a lot of the traffic control stuff previously.

Any mod fuckery is going to come with the free patch that came alongside it that brought vanilla games a bunch of new features.

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

Alkydere posted:

I did that on a gimmicky Catan map that had the entire play zone as hex islands. It works wonderful up to a certain point. Eventually the center roundabout becomes a nightmare hellzone of traffic.

This happens in real life too

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Yeah, that's the nightmare hellzone of roundabouts.

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Friction
Aug 15, 2001

Sunken train stations. This is a thing now.



Replaced a normal station in my downtown area with one and I quite like the results.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=536893383

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