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Notedly sexist term "bottom-feeder." Instead of saying gently caress off why don't you just admit that you can't stand people who don't like the things that you like.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:14
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Cliff Racer posted:Notedly sexist term "bottom-feeder." Instead of saying gently caress off why don't you just admit that you can't stand people who don't like the things that you like. Nice custom title.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:19
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I much preferred the sweatshop worker myself, drat thing makes people think I'm pro-Israel.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:21
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Remember when you posted a gelbooru link to alf groping an underage girl lmao
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Oct 17, 2015 17:27
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Cliff Racer posted:Notedly sexist term "bottom-feeder." Instead of saying gently caress off why don't you just admit that you can't stand people who don't like the things that you like.  Who said anything about sexism?
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Oct 17, 2015 17:47
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Party Boat posted:
I assumed that that was what the complaint was about since the other word mentioned was she-devil. If his complaint had nothing to do with that and Zohar has a problem with a politician being called a bottom feeder then that only makes it worse.
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Oct 17, 2015 17:55
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So you missed out the sexist bit to quote the non sexist but still insulting bit to complain about people getting offended at sexism that isn't there? Okay.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:00
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"Bottom feeder" as an insult tends to mean someone's a leech or parasite, I'd say it's more about the tedious narrative that England pays for Scotland.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:00
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Cloud Potato posted:Times: As a cartoon, it is pretty much "pee-pee doo doo a person I don't like" as with most of Brookes' animal gags, so I'm pretty happy to also call it bad. I mean there's a joke in the center re: corbyn there which would have been an okay cartoon on its own, but then he decided to go and Riddell all over the place with DO YOU GET IT SHE'S A STURGEON ALSO I HATE HER
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Oct 17, 2015 18:27
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Gonzo McFee posted:So you missed out the sexist bit to quote the non sexist but still insulting bit to complain about people getting offended at sexism that isn't there?
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Oct 17, 2015 19:53
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Cliff Racer posted:I assumed that he was taking both to be sexist. I didn't mention the other part, which is easily viewable as sexism, (though I suppose its only sexist in that it points out that she is in fact a she,) because I didn't think there was anything worth commenting on in his reaction to it.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:57
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R. Mute posted:Seems like you didn't think your post through. True, but on the other hand Cliff Racer posted:If his complaint had nothing to do with that and Zohar has a problem with a politician being called a bottom feeder then that only makes it worse.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:09
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Cliff Racer posted:True, but on the other hand Your argument is so dumb it's hard to see why you're putting this much effort in to it.
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Oct 17, 2015 21:14
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The sturgeon cartoon is dire and anyone defending it is dumb.
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Oct 17, 2015 21:27
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Thank you for your opinion.
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Oct 17, 2015 22:01
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the sturgeon cartoon is a witty and insightful commentary on the snp imo
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Oct 18, 2015 01:16
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Observer: "David Cameron – look behind you - Chris Riddell on the prime minister’s future negotiations on Britain’s place in the European Union" Sunday Telegraph:  Independent on Sunday: 
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Oct 18, 2015 01:28
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Cloud Potato posted:Independent on Sunday: You use a panda and a dragon to represent China and you still have to loving label it? Meanwhile your crappy rendering of Osborne relies on bumnose to pass muster. Ugh.
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Oct 18, 2015 01:47
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Forums Terrorist posted:the sturgeon cartoon is a witty and insightful commentary on the snp imo Also her name is Sturgeon and he draws her as a fish. Just like he did with Salmon(d). Gets me every time.
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Oct 18, 2015 02:17
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on the Chinese leader's UK state visit – China’s ambassador to the UK has insisted his country does not shy away from discussing human rights, on the eve of a state visit by President Xi Jinping" Telegraph:  Blair Bush memo on Iraq emerges Times: 
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Oct 19, 2015 00:46
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on Boris Johnson and tax credits cuts – Tory MP and Labour [sic] mayor expresses fears that policy will ‘bear down on the working poor’ ahead of Commons vote" Independent:  Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in UK Times:  Mail: Mac on... The Chinese president's state visit to Britain  
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Oct 20, 2015 00:50
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I like Mac's cartoon but don't get what the puddle is. Did one of the queen's dogs pee on the guy's leg or did he pee on his own leg?
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Oct 20, 2015 01:23
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Cliff Racer posted:I assumed that he was taking both to be sexist. I didn't mention the other part, which is easily viewable as sexism, (though I suppose its only sexist in that it points out that she is in fact a she,) because I didn't think there was anything worth commenting on in his reaction to it. Sorry I didn't reply to this at the time but I said literally gently caress all about sexism, not sure why you assumed my post was about that though sexism is definitely one problem with "she-devil". My problem was that the cartoon comes off as haughty and condescending, and it's from the same cartoonist who did that terrible and equally lovely one calling salmond an "upstart" or whatever Cloud Potato posted:Mail: Speaking of terrible cartoons
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Oct 20, 2015 01:24
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Tbf "Prince Philip is a racist" isn't the WORST thing I've ever seen Mac do...
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Oct 20, 2015 02:02
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Yeah, if it was any cartoonist other than Mac (or Paul Thomas) and maybe the sign was a little less overt, like 'don't mention the eyes' I don't think anyone would be calling them out over it. Prince Philip is the type to need to be reminded not to call people racial epithets in polite company.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:13
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I don't think most people would have got the joke if it was just "don't mention the eyes."
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Oct 20, 2015 02:17
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It was a gag on an old spitting image when the Queen and Prince were visiting China. It's something he said in an interview at some point.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:21
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I think most people could put together "slurs about East Asians" and "Philip is a huge racist" without necessarily putting it explicitly in the cue, and all of Mac's readers would have been old enough to remember the original controversy. Although most of them are probably old and white enough to not think the original controversy was that big a deal.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:23
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I know what it's referring to but I dunno, to me it comes off as an excuse for Mac to say slitty eyes. Might be overreacting but I also think people have a tendency to be more tolerant of casual racism towards east Asians in general 
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Oct 20, 2015 02:29
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Cloud Potato posted:Times: The facial expressions in this are priceless. Cameron just looks like an absolute dopey idiot.
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Oct 20, 2015 09:42
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Mac definitely got a lot more specific than he needed to. Hell, Liz giving him a stern look would have got the joke across, especially to the Mail's royal-obsessed readership.
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Oct 20, 2015 09:53
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You need a label somewhere.
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Oct 20, 2015 10:00
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Zohar posted:I know what it's referring to but I dunno, to me it comes off as an excuse for Mac to say slitty eyes. Might be overreacting but I also think people have a tendency to be more tolerant of casual racism towards east Asians in general You're probably right and I'm sure Mac thinks Philip's racism is HILARIOUS and just a bit of banter, which makes it a bad cartoon, but at least east Asians themselves aren't the punchline entirely, which is maybe progress?
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Oct 20, 2015 13:03
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Coohoolin posted:You're probably right and I'm sure Mac thinks Philip's racism is HILARIOUS and just a bit of banter, which makes it a bad cartoon, but at least east Asians themselves aren't the punchline entirely, which is maybe progress? I wouldn't confuse random variation with a trend.
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Oct 20, 2015 13:11
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Coohoolin posted:You're probably right and I'm sure Mac thinks Philip's racism is HILARIOUS and just a bit of banter, which makes it a bad cartoon, but at least east Asians themselves aren't the punchline entirely, which is maybe progress? Where do you get the idea that it's all just banter for Mac? The cartoon is very straight-forward and it's basically 'har-har, Philip is racist'. Mac may not be the most progressive cartoonist out there or have the most insightful political opinions, but there's no need to interpret his every cartoon as a testament to his backwardness. E: I hate fun.
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Oct 20, 2015 13:16
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Yeah it's just a cartoon about Phillip's famous casual racism. It's not the most insightful thing in the world but it's not exactly complicated.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:16
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Of course it's not complicated, it's Mac with a bit of casual racism, and the joke is 'ha ha imagine if he said this racist thing I've written here!' It would have been funnier if it was just the queen making that face, but nope gotta have WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THIS thrown in there as a nod and a wink to the Mail viewers That's not even getting into the 'chinaman' caricature but I guess it's better than it could have been
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Oct 20, 2015 20:16
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baka kaba posted:That's not even getting into the 'chinaman' caricature but I guess it's better than it could have been 
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Oct 20, 2015 20:35
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baka kaba posted:Of course it's not complicated, it's Mac with a bit of casual racism, and the joke is 'ha ha imagine if he said this racist thing I've written here!' He's already said that exact racist thing. There are no winks to anyone. Don't know what's wrong with the 'chinaman' in this one. Please, don't say slitty eyes. I don't know who other people are, but Xi Jinping and his wife are bang on.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:44
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What always gets me in that cartoon is what a badass professional that nurse is 
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Oct 20, 2015 20:45
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