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neonnoodle posted:I think the poster is referring to koanicsoul, not Nick Land, vis-a-vis our Neandertal overlords. ohhhhh that guy. Yeah, I have no idea what the deal is there. The racialist pseudoscience is almost quaint. But the real question is not what is up with the dude, but what is up with anyone in NRx taking him seriously.
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divabot posted:Every claim of fact in that post is not-even-wrong. What alternate universe does this come from. Why are these people so afraid of the robot devil?
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Jack Gladney posted:Why are these people so afraid of the robot devil? They don't want to be subjected to up-tempo singing and dancing for all eternity. 
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divabot posted:Every claim of fact in that post is not-even-wrong. What alternate universe does this come from. Nydwracu gets called a racist redneck sometimes, so he has developed a headcanon where communists are die-hard enemies of the working class. The NRx talk about the Low IQ degenerate mixed race masses doesn't count.
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Uh, divabot, what is this racist poo poo about?
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Merdifex posted:Uh, divabot, what is this racist poo poo about? We on the alt-right take a lot of poo poo. But when you insult anime babes with massive gazongas, you have gone TOO FAR my friend!
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Have you no decency? At the very last, Senator Divabot, have you no decency?-SchellingPoints88, shortly before crying into the loving arms of his waifu
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Two choices for an image that best represents an NrX dope's true self on social media: 1-old white haired dead aristocrat or 2- preteen anime girl.
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uber_stoat posted:Two choices for an image that best represents an NrX dope's true self on social media: 1-old white haired dead aristocrat or 2- preteen anime girl. Cartoon pony in leather uniform doing a heil.
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Ronwayne posted:Hey, from several pages back, what's the deal with the schizophrenic lizardperson/caveman ranting with heroic fascistic neanderthals being the ideal? The way you describe them makes them sound like Dr. Bronner's evil twin.
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Jack Gladney posted:Cartoon pony in leather uniform doing a heil. 
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what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass.
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spite house posted:Last time this came up someone posted a picture of China looking insanely loving fine and exactly like the dude all these sad, pasty critters wish they were, and now I can't find it. Woe. That's a Rollins gaze right there. I could see him in a cameo in "Henry & Glenn Forever & Ever."
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Josef bugman posted:what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass. The silhouette of a pony, seen from the front, standing on its hind legs
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Josef bugman posted:what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass. That's an actual nordic rune, though. So probably some fascist bullshite.
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Merdifex posted:Uh, divabot, what is this racist poo poo about? In another thread I was answering stormingtheivory (who detests and despises all things LW and NRx) on the subject with the anime villain outtake from the RW article. nuclearspaceheater is, literally, taking exception to the claim that neoreactionaries have anything against non-white people. SHOCKED, SHOCKED. it's a pretty good thread and I'm delighted to have set it off. As an unAmerican, the cultural implications of nerdy Americans' relationship to anime remain a mystery to me. There’s nothing wrong with anime breasts per se. But nothing sets off ancient history books by people who were reactionaries in their own day like anime breasts. The Vosgian Beast posted:Have you no decency? At the very last, Senator Divabot, have you no decency?-SchellingPoints88, shortly before crying into the loving arms of his waifu Over on Tumblr I have a Pokemon icon, so no. Team Rocket are my favourite anime characters ever.
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In the year 1000, Baghdad was the capital of scientific thought, mathematics and architecture. Meanwhile, the people of the British isles and the frozen Nordic wastes were hacking each others' heads off and raping the women of the villages, and/or waging ultraviolent holy wars. In conclusion, white people are the eternal master race, thank you and goodnight. 
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neonnoodle posted:In the year 1000, Baghdad was the capital of scientific thought, mathematics and architecture. Also the capital of a failing state, glorious but perishable.
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divabot posted:As an unAmerican, the cultural implications of nerdy Americans' relationship to anime remain a mystery to me. There’s nothing wrong with anime breasts per se. But nothing sets off ancient history books by people who were reactionaries in their own day like anime breasts. It's a toxic mix of a lot of things. One, anime is by definition Japanese. This means it can never go mainstream quite like video games did—video games have evolved as the audience that played them grew up and starting making video games themselves, whereas this can never happen with anime in America. (Anime is still marketed towards very specific demographics—children and young white males—that it can never transcend like happened with video games.) And foreign, non-mainstream art breeds snobs and elitists. Two, the industry that produces anime is itself broken, with the vast bulk of their products defined by lazy formulas, tired cliches, and rank bigotry. This means those very same elitists can never critically engage the very material they love, lest they be forced to admit that it mostly isn't worthy of admiration. Oh, they'll happily criticize a lot of anime, but the criticism is invariably that something isn't serious enough—"childish" is, for them, the ultimate dismissal. It's the "HARD MEN MAKING HARD CHOICES" thing all over again. Three, said elitists tend to be young, white, male, straight, cis, middle class, and so on. This demographic of people are the most willing to embrace bigotry in their favored media, have the most free time, are the most likely to have their eccentricities tolerated by others, and are the most capable of viewing any criticism as unwarranted persecution. Basically, all the broken parts of white American masculinity, hyperspecialized into weeaboo form. Four, a shitload of Orientalism. Weeaboos worship "authenticity", and thus prefer the original Japanese as much as possible. They project a degree of dignity onto the source material that the original text never had, and that the original Japanese audience themselves would not have felt. This is how "Just according to keikaku (Translator's note: keikaku means plan)" happened. This presumed integrity is also why they insist on keeping honorifics (despite not really understanding them). It also reinforces their own elitism—gratuitous Japanese is a shibboleth, separating the filthy casuals from the True Fans. (But only a very specific kind of gratuitous Japanese. "Kawaii" is for girls and not true fans. But leaving the names of spells, combat moves, locations, and titles untranslated is very important, because it's authentic.) Five, snobs and elitists only like an extremely narrow subset of fanworks, actively cultivating and promoting favored fanworks while belittling others as much as possible. Elitists view themselves as the true guardians of canon, and therefore bending or dismissing the canon, or just simply criticizing it, in a way that doesn't feed their masculinity is intolerable for them. Thus, reinterpreting or altering canon is only acceptable when making things more serious. This is why the most widely-promoted fanworks are those with "serious" takes on the subject material. The romance, drama, and lighthearted AU fanworks that are produced by the truckload in most anime fandoms are bypassed and usually looked down upon. Creativity that isn't darker and edgier is dismissed, which reinforces the misogyny already endemic to the culture. Curvature of Earth has a new favorite as of 18:59 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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neonnoodle posted:In the year 1000, Baghdad was the capital of scientific thought, mathematics and architecture. Meanwhile, the people of the British isles and the frozen Nordic wastes were hacking each others' heads off and raping the women of the villages, and/or waging ultraviolent holy wars. That's kind of an oversimplification of medieval Europeans too, though. The "Dark Ages" and "barbarians" are mostly inventions of 16th century Italians talking about how much better 16th century Italians are than everyone else, their own ancestors included.
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No I know, I just mean it's really dumb to privilege a particular culture during its height as though its specific historical "moment" was predestined. Like, the notion of "the West." Every civilization has its period of relative grace as well as its grunting dark periods. It has more to do with non-culturally-specific values (including, surprise!, tolerance for diversity) that makes a civilization have a golden period.
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I'd be careful about the term "golden period" at all. Mainly because, as much as anything else, it is defined by the people looking back as much as the people at the time. Holding up ones culture, or indeed any culture, as the one that is the sole and central one that all others should follow is, whilst really fun and something all humans do, an unfortunate problem when we look at it in totality. Its why post modernism (and sometimes Post post modernism) are such big things. I mean I am not exactly the most learned guy on the planet, but its kind of mind boggling how much knowledge stuff you just accumulate whether you want to or not in this day and age.
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Historical circumstances are a product of socio-economic processes. You shouldn't put too much value in their sacred "essence" as glorious civilizations.
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Well one thing that can be said about anime is that a sizeable amount of it has a really unreconstructed view of women and that rape is often normalised. Not to mention that huge breasts (and the bigger and more pneumatic the better), wide hips and thin waists who are hanging off the male hero are an ideal of womanhood that they are more than happy to indulge in. Basically if you are an MRA or NRx their is plenty of anime and manga that you could happily nod along to. That said their is also a lot of manga and anime which is not MRA/NRx fodder and they tend to either be unaware it exists (since it doesn't get raved about in their echo chamber) or they totally misread. Occasionally that leads to hilarious outbursts like that one guy's about Avatar when it turns out the creators were not really on the same wavelength as some of their "fans". Quick thing about the good post further up: Curvature of Earth posted:Two, the industry that produces anime is itself broken, with the vast bulk of their products defined by lazy formulas, tired cliches, and rank bigotry. Most of that could be applied to most of the general output of the film, cartoon and book industries outside Japan as well. The main differentiator I'd draw is that in Japan there was for a long time much laxer censorship laws than their were in the US especially but in the European markets as well and also that the market has been much less centralized and there is a much wider range of more niche output slightly more widely available. That means you do get some stuff getting published which would never be in other markets. In addition, Japan, as does France, does have a tradition of also having a section of material much more aimed at adult audiences which is much less of a thing in the US in part due to the long standing comic book codes forbidding the depiction of nearly anything morally dubious in comics. Dingodossier is not aimed at kids neither is stuff like the stuff produced by Enki Bilal or the Decalogue. This of course does not speak about anyone who is fanatical about anime because they have only been following things like Naruto, Bleach and Dragonball into their 40s. Munin has a new favorite as of 21:39 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Josef bugman posted:what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass. It's a silhouette of Queen Celestia illuminated by the Black Sun rune. The Black Sun is based on old Germanic symbology, and is used by Neopagans and Fascists as a symbol of Aryanism or whatever. It's fanart by My Nationalist Pony, who is a white male homosexual reactionary that likes to read in his own white nationalist ideology into MLP.  It's really fascinating how many gays become enamored with these kind of bigoted power ideologies, even knowing full well that their comrades will just murder them as soon as it's convenient. There's a really weird homosexual niche that's been dug out of Reactionary literature that I don't think I'll ever wrap my head around. Pener Kropoopkin has a new favorite as of 22:03 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's really fascinating how many gays become enamored with these kind of bigoted power ideologies, even knowing full well that their comrades will just murder them as soon as it's convenient. There's a really weird homosexual niche that's been dug out of Reactionary literature that I don't think I'll ever wrap my head around. THE BOURGEOIS SYCOPHANT JACK DONOVAN HAS CONSTRUCTED A FALSE CONSCIOUSNESS WITH HIS ASSERTION THAT A COLLAPSE WILL REQUIRE REACTIONARIES TO FALL BACK TO FORMS OF BRUTAL PATRIARCHY. THE TRUE TRADITIONALIST KNOWS THAT THERE IS NOTHING ANCIENT ABOUT MASCULINE DOMINATION FOR OUR ANCESTORS HAD A SOCIETY IN WHICH GENDER ROLES WERE LARGELY NONEXISTENT AS ALL WAS AN INFINITELY DENSE MONOPOLE OF MASS-ENERGY. never not reblog hyper-traditionalist
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's really fascinating how many gays become enamored with these kind of bigoted power ideologies, even knowing full well that their comrades will just murder them as soon as it's convenient. There's a really weird homosexual niche that's been dug out of Reactionary literature that I don't think I'll ever wrap my head around. White guys look hot in those black uniforms. Other than that and male/white/cis privilege I have no idea.
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Tumblr is probably a bad idea. People do stuff like this:quote:I’m going to be a heretic and argue that the problem with cancer research is institutional, not biological. The biological problem is clearly very hard, but the institutional problem is impossible. which is a radical proposition that cancer research fails because they don't work like software engineers. Discussion and detailed rebuttal ensue. Turns out it's an old Moldbug Hacker News comment from a Tumblr dedicated to Moldbug quotes. Moldbug is the sort of programmer who literally can't understand why every other field isn't programming.
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divabot posted:Tumblr is probably a bad idea. People do stuff like this: This does help explain his LW popularity.
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divabot posted:Tumblr is probably a bad idea. People do stuff like this: Didn't he fail out of undergrad in engineering or something?
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Jack Gladney posted:Didn't he fail out of undergrad in engineering or something? Passed undergrad (Brown), crashed out of postgrad (Berkeley). The latter appears to be the source of all his rants about academia.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's a silhouette of Queen Celestia illuminated by the Black Sun rune. The Black Sun is based on old Germanic symbology, and is used by Neopagans and Fascists as a symbol of Aryanism or whatever. Welp, looks like we're gonna have a to hang a brony in this here thread. 
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divabot posted:Passed undergrad (Brown), crashed out of postgrad (Berkeley). The latter appears to be the source of all his rants about academia. Sadly, his last words at college could not be "Mencius Moldbug" because he had not invented that pseudonym yet.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's a silhouette of Queen Celestia illuminated by the Black Sun rune. The Black Sun is based on old Germanic symbology, and is used by Neopagans and Fascists as a symbol of Aryanism or whatever. After too much time browsing the nutcases on the ol' World Wide Infoweb Highway, I really thought there was nothing left that could cause whatever working gears that were left in my head to completely grind to shreds. I was wrong. So very wrong. Can we start some kind of fundraiser to get some of these people into treatment?
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Josef bugman posted:what is this thing supposed to even be? Other than a bad use of the "truth" rune from King of Dragon Pass. Life Rune which is usually used by Neo Nazis as a symbol of people/family/etc (well, true blooded Aryan people) backed by a Sun Wheel which is also long associated with both real Nazis and Neo Nazis (it was emblazoned on the floor of the headquarters of the SS for instance). Then I believe from context that the silhouette is of some sort of MLP character, probably the queen one because it looks like it's wearing a crown (or a Samurai helmet of some kind maybe?).
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