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Oct 19, 2015 02:48
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And yet people still love the look for some reason. It really didn't go far enough in the "making fun of 90s design trends" department. loving Golden Calf.
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Oct 19, 2015 03:24
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Gaz-L posted:
  
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Oct 19, 2015 03:59
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We had to wait a couple years, but... 
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Oct 19, 2015 04:30
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I thought Booster Gold was perma-dead? (as much as anyone ever is in comics, anyway)
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Oct 19, 2015 04:34
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I thought Booster Gold was perma-dead? (as much as anyone ever is in comics, anyway) JL3K is in a Giffen/DeMatteis-verse which I'm pretty sure skips over anything past I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Oct 19, 2015 04:38
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SynthOrange posted:That's just Cable in Loki's helmet! Yeah, I think that was the joke.
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Oct 19, 2015 06:47
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Huh. Didn't know about that. NorgLyle posted:He was literally the only Kingdom Come insert I didn't hate just for the way he was used in Generation Lost. Magog is weird in that he's one of my favorite things about Kingdom Come, but putting him in DC proper meant having to have him exist as the piece of poo poo anti-hero who would go on to one day realize he's a piece of poo poo in the worst way. I read his ongoing regardless. Does someone have the panels of his breakdown from Kingdom Come #2? I loved that scene.
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Oct 19, 2015 07:26
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Yeah, I was one of those guys crazy about Kingdom Come at the time it came out, and read all kinds of ephemera about it. Magog was very much designed to be as stupid-leifield as they could as a very clear commentary on comics in the 90s*. I love how he has so many pouches despite not ever using any equipment other than his energy staff. But I think I love even more all the weird and silly background characters infest the book, such as Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Transformers, or The Monkees from the episode they became superheroes. Though Thor and Spider-Man appearing in one group panel's pretty funny too. (*I'm aware that the overbloating & dumb grimdark problems of the 90s is the whole point of the book)
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Oct 19, 2015 12:06
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Just checking in to say I bought Ms Marvel on the strength of some panels here and it is good, and I am happy. Thanks thread.
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Oct 19, 2015 13:33
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Gavok posted:Does someone have the panels of his breakdown from Kingdom Come #2? I loved that scene.        
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Oct 19, 2015 14:30
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I still remember as a kid reading KC for the first time and the line "And one woman." knocking me flat.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:36
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redbackground posted:I still remember as a kid reading KC for the first time and the line "And one woman." knocking me flat. Oh wow it just hit me. I always thought he was just being nit picky to show he remembered. gently caress.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:39
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Gavok posted:Does someone have the panels of his breakdown from Kingdom Come #2? I loved that scene.
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Oct 19, 2015 14:39
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mind the walrus posted:And yet people still love the look for some reason. It really didn't go far enough in the "making fun of 90s design trends" department. loving Golden Calf. Wasn't it the case that even his creators ended up liking him and his look despite themselves?
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Oct 19, 2015 15:23
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Does anyone else find it a little ironic that they fridged Lois?
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Oct 19, 2015 16:29
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Lois is Superman's second strongest anchor to humanity (first is his parents). In any story where you explore his alienation from normal people, she has to be gone, probably traumatically.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:36
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Ignite Memories posted:Does anyone else find it a little ironic that they fridged Lois?
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Oct 19, 2015 16:37
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Just that Kingdom Come is a critique of the grim gritty superhero comics from the 90s, and to tell the story they had to kill lois off-panel to raise the stakes.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:39
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I think it is deeper than the typical implications of "fridging", but sure it has some of the bad implications of that, too. I never caught that about that scene. poo poo. I always expect to go back to KC and feel like it aged poorly, but it still has a lot of weight and kinda gets better over time for me.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:39
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Ignite Memories posted:Just that Kingdom Come is a critique of the grim gritty superhero comics from the 90s, and to tell the story they had to kill lois off-panel to raise the stakes. It was sort of important as it was to remove Superman from his human connection. It also says a lot about him as he still does not kill even after Lois dies.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:41
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What was the deal with Gog? I remember specifically a guy who looked like Magog, but was called Gog, and he found a baby and there was a line specifically like 'As i am Gog, you will be my Magog'. I think the story was about Gog killing every multiverse version of Superman. I was confused because I didn't know if it was supposed to be a KC prequel story or what.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:49
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:What was the deal with Gog? I remember specifically a guy who looked like Magog, but was called Gog, and he found a baby and there was a line specifically like 'As i am Gog, you will be my Magog'. I think the story was about Gog killing every multiverse version of Superman. It was the sequel and it was not that good. Here is Impulse 24  
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Oct 19, 2015 16:54
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bobkatt013 posted:It was the sequel and it was not that good. Here is Impulse 24 
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Oct 19, 2015 17:48
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Teenage Fansub posted:We had to wait a couple years, but... Which is pretty good, but I really liked where Winick was going with the rebuilt JLI pre-reboot. Great line-up, a nice balance of banter and serious action, and Booster getting to come into his own.
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Oct 19, 2015 18:02
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bobkatt013 posted:It was the sequel and it was not that good. Here is Impulse 24 Even Mega Man is like "wow, do you need that much boot?"
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Oct 19, 2015 18:20
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Waids Impulse is some of my favorite comics. The art fit the tone of the book really well.
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Oct 19, 2015 18:22
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I don't know much about Kingdom Come (or DC for that matter), so the implication is that the Joker killed Lois Lane? Isn't that also the setup for Injustice? Only Supes does straight up punch the heart out of the Joker there?
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Oct 19, 2015 18:43
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VagueRant posted:I don't know much about Kingdom Come (or DC for that matter), so the implication is that the Joker killed Lois Lane? Isn't that also the setup for Injustice? Only Supes does straight up punch the heart out of the Joker there? redbackground fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Oct 19, 2015 18:55
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VagueRant posted:I don't know much about Kingdom Come (or DC for that matter), so the implication is that the Joker killed Lois Lane? Isn't that also the setup for Injustice? Only Supes does straight up punch the heart out of the Joker there? The main difference in the setup between the two, as far as I can tell (having read KC a few years back but not Injustice) is that in KC, the Joker himself killed Lois in the backstory, whereas in Injustice, the Joker basically tricks Superman into killing Lois (who was also pregnant at the time).
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Oct 19, 2015 19:00
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In Injustice, Joker tricked Superman into killing her himself, and she was pregnant. And if that wasn't enough, he put a detonator in her heart so that Metropolis would explode when it stopped. Slightly more traumatic. There's more personal reasons for why Superman snapped in that universe, but the triggering event was a lot more brutal.
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Oct 19, 2015 19:00
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Hahah wait what? How did he trick superman into killing lois?
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Oct 19, 2015 19:06
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Ignite Memories posted:Hahah wait what? How did he trick superman into killing lois? Combination of kryptonite and Scarecrow's fear toxin made Supes hallucinate that Lois was Doomsday.
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Oct 19, 2015 19:09
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Lurdiak posted:In Injustice, Joker tricked Superman into killing her himself, and she was pregnant. And if that wasn't enough, he put a detonator in her heart so that Metropolis would explode when it stopped. To add to that, Kingdom Come Superman didn't get a chance to confront the Joker. Magog took that option out of his hands. Though KC Superman did have a full-on violent breakdown later where he was fully prepared to murder the entire UN in a fit of rage, so he wasn't above such reactions.
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Oct 19, 2015 19:13
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Superman and murder is pretty common
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Oct 19, 2015 19:16
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Superman and murder is pretty common
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Oct 19, 2015 19:17
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Ignite Memories posted:Just that Kingdom Come is a critique of the grim gritty superhero comics from the 90s, and to tell the story they had to kill lois off-panel to raise the stakes. That's kind of the point of her death, things had to progress to that horror of a future and that's only accomplished if there's no Superman.
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Oct 19, 2015 19:41
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:What was the deal with Gog? I remember specifically a guy who looked like Magog, but was called Gog, and he found a baby and there was a line specifically like 'As i am Gog, you will be my Magog'. I think the story was about Gog killing every multiverse version of Superman. He was the baddy in the less-well-received KC sequel. The baby was Clark and Diana's and there was temporal fuckery that led to it becoming Magog or Gog or both and finding Superman and killing him every day from the future back to the end of KC or something. It was not a good book. But it did have a minotaur killing Green Lantern's space fortress with a wooden broadsword, which was cool.
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Oct 19, 2015 22:10
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Ignite Memories posted:Does anyone else find it a little ironic that they fridged Lois? It totally is. thespaceinvader posted:But it did have a minotaur killing Green Lantern's space fortress with a wooden broadsword, which was cool. I would really like to see this. Was it a space-minotaur?
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Kingdom Come is still one of my favorite comics, although over the years I've come to loathe how they resolved the plot by just killing off 99% of the metahuman population, just feels lazy to me, not to mention makes the whole "Resolving The Tensions Between Metahuman and Normal Humans" aspect of the ending feel really hollow, cause that becomes pretty easy to resolve when there's only about a dozen of them left
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