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Something similar happened in South Dakota last year. http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/us/south-dakota-cold-case-missing-girls/
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I get the case with the cliff but how are people otherwise just driving into lakes, and far enough off the shore they sink too deep to make it out?
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Lakes are just like oceans. Some have gradual slopes, others have precipitous dropoffs into the depths. There's a lake near my parents place that has gently sloping bottoms near the popular beaches on it's shores, but there's more than a few areas just a few feet out where it drops down to 200+ feet.
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LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:I get the case with the cliff but how are people otherwise just driving into lakes, and far enough off the shore they sink too deep to make it out? It also doesn't hurt that drinking and driving really did used to be a whole hell of a lot more socially acceptable and if heavy, fast objects and alcohol don't mix then adding water to the equation is like adding fuel to the fire. I'm not gonna goonsay and rage impotently about drunk driving because I think it's far more indicative of a drinking problem and the many lapses of judgement and reflex that entails rather than some consciously made moral lapse but it probably is for the better that at the very least folks might at least give it a second thought. On a related and unnerving note, isn't there supposed to be literally hundreds of cars in the bayous surrounding houston that the city has like zero plans to investigate because it'll gently caress up their crime stats (hello david simon).
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Frostwerks posted:
But what if they made driving into water and dying legal, just in that area? 
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Oct 14, 2015 11:04
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Charged with diving under the influence, a misdemeanor.
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Basically, if anyone disappears with their car, there's a good chance they're in the water.
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aardwolf posted:It never occurred to me that Terry Pratchett was toning that poo poo down. Toshers, a Rat Queen and Bazalgette's sewers play major roles in Colin Andrew McLaren's "Rattus Rex" (good luck finding a copy).
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Frostwerks posted:It also doesn't hurt that drinking and driving really did used to be a whole hell of a lot more socially acceptable and if heavy, fast objects and alcohol don't mix then adding water to the equation is like adding fuel to the fire. I'm not gonna goonsay and rage impotently about drunk driving because I think it's far more indicative of a drinking problem and the many lapses of judgement and reflex that entails rather than some consciously made moral lapse but it probably is for the better that at the very least folks might at least give it a second thought. This? (Scroll through for the photos): http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Sonar-pictures-reveal-more-than-100-vehicles-sunk-5474530.php
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I hope I'm not too late for polar tales! I just found this article about how we discovered the cure for scurvy in the 18th century and then discarded it entirely for a while, just in time to really gently caress over Nares, Scott and Shackleton and co in the 20th century:quote:Scurvy had been the leading killer of sailors on long ocean voyages; some ships experienced losses as high as 90% of their men. With the introduction of lemon juice, the British suddenly held a massive strategic advantage over their rivals, one they put to good use in the Napoleonic wars. British ships could now stay out on blockade duty for two years at a time, strangling French ports even as the merchantmen who ferried citrus to the blockading ships continued to die of scurvy, prohibited from touching the curative themselves. We discovered the cure again mostly by luck: quote:They had a theory of the disease that made sense, fit the evidence, but was utterly wrong. They had arrived at the idea of an undetectable substance in their food, present in trace quantities, with a direct causative relationship to scurvy, but they thought of it in terms of a poison to avoid. In one sense, the additional leap required for a correct understanding was very small. In another sense, it would have required a kind of Copernican revolution in their thinking. I encourage everyone to read the full article, it gets into some philosophy of science grit that really emphasizes how these changes in thinking rest on the blade of a knife. We really messed up that time.
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That was fascinating, thank you. And thanks to all the recommendations of the worst journey in the world, it is really honestly fantastic. Not only the journey but Cherry-Garrard himself, who is such an amazing proto-goon, and a generally nice man.
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A couple of pages back someone linked to Skip Hollandsworth's crime stories, which lead me to the trail of the Black Widow. Woman climbing the ladder of high society has three husbands and a friend die under mysterious circumstances. All along it's unclear if she really had anything to do with those deaths, and she's pretty much bullied out of town. However, later she keeps reappearing and conning rich men out of their money, only to grow more and more unhinged as she switches to a different m/o. 1987 http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/1987/may/the-black-widow?single=1 1989 http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/1989/may/whatever-happened-to-the-black-widow-sandra-bridewell 2004 http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/return-of-the-black-widow-6398345 2004 http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/seductress-of-the-saints-6383321 2007 http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/fall-of-the-black-widow-6398348 2008 http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/black-widow-pleads-guilty-6406079
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I hate it when people scoff at the bloody Mary thing, because while I don't believe in ghosts, it is based on a real optical illusion, so people do see "something". Just not a ghost. i dont loving like this
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WaywardWoodwose posted:I hate it when people scoff at the bloody Mary thing, because while I don't believe in ghosts, it is based on a real optical illusion, so people do see "something". Just not a ghost. woa everyone gets all melty... yuck hahaha cool though, thanks for sharing
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_Chinaquote:Falun Gong is a Chinese qigong discipline involving meditation and a moral philosophy rooted in Buddhist tradition. The practice rose to popularity in the 1990s in China, and by 1998, Chinese government sources estimated that as many as 70 million people had taken up the practice.[23][24] Perceiving that Falun Gong was a potential threat to the Party’s authority and ideology, Communist Party leader Jiang Zemin initiated a nationwide campaign to eradicate the group in July 1999. quote:Reports of organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners and other political prisoners in China have raised increasing concern in the international community in recent years. According to the reports, political prisoners, mainly Falun Gong practitioners, are being executed "on demand" in order to provide organs to recipients. The organ harvesting is said to be taking place both as a result of the Chinese Communist Party 's persecution of Falun Gong and because of the financial incentives available to the institutions and individuals involved in the trade. quote:These concerns resurfaced in 2001, when a Chinese military doctor testified before U.S. Congress that he had taken part in organ extraction operations from executed prisoners, some of whom were not yet dead.[15] In December 2005, China's Deputy Health Minister Huang Jiefu acknowledged that up to 95% of transplant organs came from executed prisoners and promised steps to prevent abuse.[16][17] Huang reiterated these claims in 2008 and 2010, stating that over 90% of organ transplants from deceased donors are sourced from prisoners.[18] In 2006 the World Medical Association demanded that China cease harvesting organs from prisoners, who are not deemed able to properly consent.[19] In 2014, Huang Jiefu said that reliance on organ harvesting from death row inmates was declining, while simultaneously defending the practice of using prisoners’ organs in the transplantation system.[20][21] quote:Wait periods for organ transplants in China are significantly shorter than elsewhere in the world. According to a 2006 post on the China International Transplantation Assistance Center website, "it may take only one month to receive a liver transplantation , the maximum waiting time being two months. As for the kidney transplantation , it may take one week to find a suitable donor,the maximum time being one month...If something wrong with the donor's organ happens, the patient will have the option to be offered another organ donor and have the operation again in one week."[48] Other organ transplant centers similarly advertised average wait times of one or two weeks for liver and kidney transplants.[13][49][50] This is consistent with accounts of organ transplant recipients, who report receiving organs a matter of days or weeks.[8][51][52] By comparison, median wait times for a kidney in developed countries such as the United States, Canada and Great Britain typically range from two years to over four years, despite the fact that these countries have millions of registered organ donors and established systems of organ matching and allocation.[53][54][55]
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Vladimir Poutine posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China I'm having trouble finding a source from the time, but all of those plastinated body exhibits that were the rage a few years ago were being looked into as probably being bodies of falun dafa prisoners.
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One of his press releases says that he got an interim injunction against the German magazine Der Spiegel to prevent them making that claim, so that's probably why it's not showing up in Google anymore. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...s-55826502.html quote:Gunther von Hagens' BODY WORLDS declares categorically that it has never used
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Less scary or unnerving than abjectly depressing. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/nyregion/dying-alone-in-new-york-city.html?src=longreads What happens to your body and estate if you die alone and unnoticed.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:One of his press releases says that he got an interim injunction against the German magazine Der Spiegel to prevent them making that claim, so that's probably why it's not showing up in Google anymore. Wow, there was a movie with this plot. To get the exhibit going they killed people so they could immediately plasticize them and not lose any color or something like that. I just don't see what the hurry is, where you would need to resort to stolen/executed people. Organs are life and death to the person/family but an exhibit is an exhibit.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:One of his press releases says that he got an interim injunction against the German magazine Der Spiegel to prevent them making that claim, so that's probably why it's not showing up in Google anymore. Yeah, I just remember a reference to it in an NY Times article and it being the basis of at least one Chicago Tribune article in a year, but not the right search terms--I don't think either of them scrub like that. They may have all been opinion articles, however, and I'm not finding it with falun gong falun dong or falun dafa so maybe my brain is broken and it was red eye or something.
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It doesn't justify the abuse but I've heard that Falun Gong is one of those cults that takes money in exchange for the promise of special powers like Scientology and Happy Science (not sure how big these guys are compared to the others but I found out about them when I walked by a branch in my city, wtf)
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Tibor posted:Yeah, that's a fair point. This just got an update last Friday, they found her remains. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/10/16/remains-appalachian-trail-hiker-found-maine/bX4Fna5A2AGkUeQjCUKbIJ/story.html
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:There's a lake near my parents place that has gently sloping bottoms near the popular beaches on it's shores, but there's more than a few areas just a few feet out where it drops down to 200+ feet. Just reading this has made my dick pack up and move to the inside of my body probably permanently and I have restless leg syndrome now.
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BattleMaster posted:It doesn't justify the abuse but I've heard that Falun Gong is one of those cults that takes money in exchange for the promise of special powers like Scientology and Happy Science (not sure how big these guys are compared to the others but I found out about them when I walked by a branch in my city, wtf)
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E.T. NO HOMO posted:Just reading this has made my dick pack up and move to the inside of my body probably permanently and I have restless leg syndrome now.
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High Protein posted:A couple of pages back someone linked to Skip Hollandsworth's crime stories, which lead me to the trail of the Black Widow. Woman climbing the ladder of high society has three husbands and a friend die under mysterious circumstances. All along it's unclear if she really had anything to do with those deaths, and she's pretty much bullied out of town. However, later she keeps reappearing and conning rich men out of their money, only to grow more and more unhinged as she switches to a different m/o. Thank you for this, it was absolutely fascinating. I have to admit I would love to know how she managed to charm so many people out of their money, although I guess that sort of thing is impossible now with google. It's almost perfect irony that she buys into prosperity gospel bullshit at the end.
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Terrible Opinions posted:From what I've heard it's not really centralized, so it can't operate like that sort of scam. It has been used by individuals to scam rich idiots out of huge amounts of money, like feng shui and yoga though. Feng Shui is complete idiot poo poo (outside of sometimes making rooms or buildings look pleasing) but yoga's a pretty legit exercise in term of improving/maintaining physical health and has proven empirical data supporting it as a good addition to standard mental health practices. Unless you just mean it's been used as a vessel to rip people off which is totally true, and not just that yoga itself is bullshit.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Feng Shui is complete idiot poo poo (outside of sometimes making rooms or buildings look pleasing) but yoga's a pretty legit exercise in term of improving/maintaining physical health and has proven empirical data supporting it as a good addition to standard mental health practices. Unless you just mean it's been used as a vessel to rip people off which is totally true, and not just that yoga itself is bullshit. Feng Shui does have a measurable positive affect in that a well arranged room that allows light in and is pleasing to the eye can elevate a person's mood. There's nothing "mystical" about it and it costs way too much, but it's not a total sham. Feng Shui is just Interior Design with a fancier name.
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Esroc posted:Feng Shui does have a measurable positive affect in that a well arranged room that allows light in and is pleasing to the eye can elevate a person's mood. There's nothing "mystical" about it and it costs way too much, but it's not a total sham. Feng Shui is just Interior Design with a fancier name. While it's true that it can lead to more pleasing interiors, and those can affect someones mood, Feng Shui is entirely based on mystical bullshit.
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Inactivist posted:Thank you for this, it was absolutely fascinating. I have to admit I would love to know how she managed to charm so many people out of their money, although I guess that sort of thing is impossible now with google. It's almost perfect irony that she buys into prosperity gospel bullshit at the end. Absolute pro-click. Everyone should read this series of articles.
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Artemis J Brassnuts posted:I'm generally not one to mock people's fears, but really? It's a lake; it's not like it can sneak up on you when you're in bed and make you slightly more wet than you were expecting to be. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassophobia Its more the idea of scary things lurking the depths that you cant see (because its so deep).. stories of shark attacks and even nessie sightings don't help I've been scuba diving in crystal clear coral reefs but man nothing scares the poo poo out of me like vast, dark bodies of water.
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LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassophobia So it's like racism, but for oceans?
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BattleMaster posted:It doesn't justify the abuse but I've heard that Falun Gong is one of those cults that takes money in exchange for the promise of special powers like Scientology and Happy Science (not sure how big these guys are compared to the others but I found out about them when I walked by a branch in my city, wtf) It's basically crazy-rear end apocalypse Buddhism. The world is doomed because the sheeple are dumb and unenlightened. Signs of lacking spiritual enlightenment might include horrible crimes like homosexuality or interracial marriage. Aliens are walking the earth in disguise, and Supreme Enlightened Leader Li can totally fly (but due to his humble nature refrains from doing this in public, of course). If you get sick, it's divine punishment for your poor karma. Also, Western medicine is the devil, but traditional Chinese medicine can cure everything.
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Kaizoku posted:I'm having trouble finding a source from the time, but all of those plastinated body exhibits that were the rage a few years ago were being looked into as probably being bodies of falun dafa prisoners. There was the 'Bodies' exhibition in NYC in 2009 that had a sign up RIGHT AT THE END saying that the bodies used were of Chinese prisoners. I was wandering round thinking it weird that when you remove the skin from a body, we all look Chinese. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodies:_The_Exhibition This exhibition was not affiliated with Gunter Von Hagens, who I think has a pretty big waiting list of volunteers.
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Rondette posted:I was wandering round thinking it weird that when you remove the skin from a body, we all look Chinese. I thought that only applied to the Finns?
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Lakes are just like oceans. Some have gradual slopes, others have precipitous dropoffs into the depths. This reminds me of going to the Welsh slate quarries with school. Some of them have filled with water and because of the amount of dissolved minerals etc. in the water we were told that the human body was denser than the water so if you fell in you would just straight up sink and drown immediately. That was rather freaky when you were on a cliff over the water with a rather flimsy fence.. edit: looking it up we were either fed a line of bullshit or I'm remembering wrong. Far more likely dangers: Very steep sides, very deep, shady and so very cold on a hot day so if you dive in you get cold water shock and drown; also unpredictable what's underneath the surface. In any case, I still remember being pretty drat scared looking down considering how deep it was. NLJP has a new favorite as of 13:22 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:Feng Shui is complete idiot poo poo (outside of sometimes making rooms or buildings look pleasing) but yoga's a pretty legit exercise in term of improving/maintaining physical health and has proven empirical data supporting it as a good addition to standard mental health practices. Unless you just mean it's been used as a vessel to rip people off which is totally true, and not just that yoga itself is bullshit.
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lenoon posted:That was fascinating, thank you. And thanks to all the recommendations of the worst journey in the world, it is really honestly fantastic. Not only the journey but Cherry-Garrard himself, who is such an amazing proto-goon, and a generally nice man. I read that last winter and found myself frequently daydreaming of being able to take a TARDIS and give him some warm blankets and hot food and maybe a hug. You're right, he's just genuinely nice, and has such interesting things to say about everyone on the expedition.
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Comrade Koba posted:It's basically crazy-rear end apocalypse Buddhism. A not unknown sub sect of buddhism! Millenarianismn is a very common feature of both Christianity and Buddhism. Josef bugman has a new favorite as of 16:12 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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a kitten posted:This just got an update last Friday, they found her remains. Thanks for posting this update!
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