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All  needs to do is get the location of the star and have it mapped into the system properly. http://www.iflscience.com/have-we-really-discovered-huge-alien-megastructure-around-star IFL Science Article posted:The star in question is KIC 8462852, an old star about 1.5 times larger than the Sun. Using the Kepler space telescope, a team of astronomers found that its light dipped by up to 20% on several occasions due to the orbit of a vast object that would have to be almost half the star’s size. What’s more, these huge dips occurred at random across the 1,600 days the star was observed. Would be an interesting way to introduce the Thargoids or any other sentient race, especially if the star falls into one of those areas that's blocked off by a pass requirement.
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Friend is insisting he took down an Anaconda in a DBX Not sure about that I was able to smack around Pythons in a RES because they straight up ran into an asteroid a few times and wasn't firing back for some reason
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I took out an Anaconda in my Imperial Eagle yesterday. That was when I decided to stop doing bounties and just smuggle instead.
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Well, I looked at my assets and realized that I could actually trade in my lovely Type 6 Gimmick Miner and trusty Diamondback Scout Gunship and finally get an Asp, the first ship on my list of goals. I have enough leftover to give it some really basic upgrades and pay for insurance a few times, time to map a route out to Sothi-Trustworthy posted:Welp, looks like Sothis smuggling missions are nerfed as of this morning. At least I got one solid run in. *sigh* Adult Sword Owner posted:How so Roc posted:they are not even being offered now gently caress! gently caress! Is there anything even close in value out there?
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LCL-Dead posted:All Would be funny if it indeed is a giant alien megastructure and those guys turn up next year or something to visit us. (Remember, that star is 1400+ light years away, so that structure, if it exists, was already there 1400+ years ago.)
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Sard posted:Is there anything even close in value out there? Nope. The "nobody should have it easier than I do" brown sea bitched enough.
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Oct 19, 2015 18:26
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Oct 19, 2015 18:27
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It looks like they hosed smuggling missions throughout the universe instead of it being localized to Sothis and the other problem stations 
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I understood poopsocking the "exploits" (seeking luxuries, infinite rares, Lugh combat zone) back when missions paid 30k at most, you got 1000 credits per Anaconda kill at CZs and 10-15k max bounties at RES... but nowadays you can just go do whatever you find fun, even exploring, and make enough money to progress nicely, so unless you really have a hankering for that A-fitted Anaconda and you need it NOW, it's really not that important. Of course it's cool to traipse around in a Python or iClipper, but it's far from necessary and you can still get there rather easily if you play regularly. 20 millions will get you in one of the best combat ships, 15 millions in the best explorer - and you can get that kind of money in about a weekend or two of playing, whether you run rares, bulk trade, do missions or shoot mans (exploring might take more time but you'll still get there). Also they added plenty of nice ships you can already have for 5 millions or less like the DBS and Courier, and it's not like you need the money for anything besides buying and fitting ships. The only thing stopping me from buying a ton of ships is the ungodly hassle that is retrieving them, it's grating to have to jump to a specific place (possibly many LY away) and suffer through landing / loading screens if you just fancy flying your Cobra for 15 minutes... they REALLY ought to implement a ship delivery system sooner rather than later.
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So what's it cost to decently fit out a Clipper for PvP?
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LCL-Dead posted:Nope. Some of the posts were poo poo like "Smuggling is so unfair I've been playing since December and only have 11 million" Hamburger Test posted:I took out an Anaconda in my Imperial Eagle yesterday. That was when I decided to stop doing bounties and just smuggle instead. It wasn't firing at him which makes me think that either something is bugged, the game equipped it with fixed weapons and he just stayed out from in front of it, or it did have turrets and they were locked to forward fire and he just stayed out of its arc. Probably took for loving ever and you'd think it would be smart enough at 50% to think "hmm this battle does not go well" and FSD out. I see it happen at nav beacons all the time.
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Adult Sword Owner posted:Some of the posts were poo poo like "Smuggling is so unfair I've been playing since December and only have 11 million" That's indeed bullshit, yeah. First off, I'm like the most casual player ever and made most of my money through exploration and still got three times as much by slowly playing since December. Second, what the hell is this whiny jealousy crappost nothing prevented you from doing smuggling you retard that's not what unfair means
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Sard posted:Well, I looked at my assets and realized that I could actually trade in my lovely Type 6 Gimmick Miner and trusty Diamondback Scout Gunship and finally get an Asp, the first ship on my list of goals. I have enough leftover to give it some really basic upgrades and pay for insurance a few times, time to map a route out to Sothi- The legal haul missions and crystalline gold should still make Sothis reasonable profitable but not 80mill a trip profitable 
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Adult Sword Owner posted:It wasn't firing at him which makes me think that either something is bugged, the game equipped it with fixed weapons and he just stayed out from in front of it, or it did have turrets and they were locked to forward fire and he just stayed out of its arc. Yea, I don't know how long it took me but it was probably around 10 minutes. It did fire at me a couple of times removing my shields instantly, but I learned to use the vertical thrusters during that and after that it was easy but tedious.
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LCL-Dead posted:So what's it cost to decently fit out a Clipper for PvP? I'm no PVP expert and someone will surely give better advice, but I hear people like railguns, and I know you have to have good shields + shield boosters + shield cells. So we have 120 millions for a pretty much combat maxed out Clipper (2 medium railguns, 2 gimbaled large pulse lasers, 7A shield generator, 6A SCB, all A internals except sensors and life support), of which 51 millions are for the 7A shield. If you downgrade to a still reasonable 7C shield, it's only 75 millions. Of course the sky's the limit, with that build you have a lot of space for other internals like more SCBs, Auto field maintenance, etc but you don't really need much else for combat, and in any case you'll have to often get back to at a station to refill your railgun ammo and shield cell charges. Adult Sword Owner posted:Some of the posts were poo poo like "Smuggling is so unfair I've been playing since December and only have 11 million"  I have made something like 50-60 millions since 1.3 dropped in June, and that's playing 2-3 hours a week! How do they make so little money unless they die repeatedly and / or fool around all the time without even trying to earn money?
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quote:Since December I earned a fully loaded ASP and 11 million in the bank trading rares, exploration, nav point bounties and some CGs. Last week I hear about million dollar smuggling runs from Sothis and 74290, so frustrated with my sloow earnings I visit the dark side. OK he did have an Asp but gently caress this guy
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TorakFade posted:
How do you make so much? Haha.. I was sitting at about 17 million in total assets when Sothis hit the map and that's while only playing 3-6 hours a week. I mostly did combat though with about a month spent running out to the rim in a Cobra before self destructing to come back and help with Jotunheim wars.
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TorakFade posted:
What kind of stuff do you do? Normal cargo missions/non-insane smuggling?
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When I first started the game I did bounties, then took advantage of that Diso Corn event (back in June) to make enough money to get a Vulture. Then I got bored of doing the same thing (this was around when PowerPlay came out). I started playing last week and went from 17 million in the bank to 133 million thanks to smuggling. Now I need to find stuff to actually do. Back to the Vulture I guess!
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SciFiDownBeat posted:What kind of stuff do you do? Normal cargo missions/non-insane smuggling? LCL-Dead posted:How do you make so much? Haha.. Hi-RES mostly, resetting to get Clippers and big ships (for the challenge more than the money) with a sprinkle of "kill 5 pirates" missions that I was doing anyway for 200-300k a pop, and bulk trading on very profitable routes. Averaging something like 2 mil / hour * 2.5 hour * 4 weeks = 20 mil / month. Admittedly I have a Python from the seeking luxuries exploit, 260 cargo space helps a lot when trading but I still maintain most of the money was from bounty hunting, trading annoys me so much I do it very sporadically.
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I must be doing Hi incorrectly because even with KWS I was only getting 800k after ~45 minutes That of course counts the initial slowness waiting for spawns though
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Met posted:Fehu is the Empire Sothis. Than.... SciFiDownBeat posted:R E M E M B E R ... nooooooo 
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Adult Sword Owner posted:I must be doing Hi incorrectly because even with KWS I was only getting 800k after ~45 minutes Even alone in a Vulture I was still able to pull about 1.5mil in a Hi-Res. Had to pick my battles though as Anaconda's started rolling in with dual dropship escorts. Edit for madness: quote:I have done everything I can ingame to not get too much money from the off (I never sell a ship I buy and never strip one down for cash) - but at the same time part of the fun is maximising profits so to say do not do the missions then is no solution, since ED launched FD have systematically made money easier and easier to get. I spent ages saving up for a cobra, back when if you got 1k for a bounty you were happy, and it was a real sense of achivemnt. An anaconda should take 500hrs plus to get imo, because now there is no goal in getting on. Sad times imo. This from MadMike who, in my brief and rare excursions into the poop, I often see advocating for the removal of Open mode or any other way to punish players who PvP other players without their consent. So, someone who never ventures out of his security bubble. LCL-Dead fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Adult Sword Owner posted:I must be doing Hi incorrectly because even with KWS I was only getting 800k after ~45 minutes You just have to kill a bad guy every five minutes and you're making 1.5 mil / hour if you get good, 100k dropships/clippers spawns. In a vulture that's not too hard  Much luck with rerolling the instance needed though, at least before haz res were introduced...
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TorakFade posted:You just have to kill a bad guy every five minutes and you're making 1.5 mil / hour if you get good, 100k dropships/clippers spawns. In a vulture that's not too hard You can also boost that by quite a bit by pledging to/hunting in Space Mom's territory.
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I forgot about that. I pledged to her but stopped pushing rank because it was just too much to keep up with. Also last I checked, she wasn't expanding, so there was no combat option. Guess I'm getting back in the Cobra and hauling poo poo for m'lady
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So now that smuggling isn't miles better than everything else. Is there a way to hunt pirates that is less tedious than just flying around looking for "X Signal Source" and hoping it is a pirate and also something you can defeat in a cobra? I'm trying to get some imperial reputation so that I can get an Imperial Courier, now that the Asp is no longer as attractive.
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Hamburger Test posted:So now that smuggling isn't miles better than everything else. Is there a way to hunt pirates that is less tedious than just flying around looking for "X Signal Source" and hoping it is a pirate and also something you can defeat in a cobra? Resource extraction sites are where you'd do this for money. TorakFade posted:Much luck with rerolling the instance needed though, at least before haz res were introduced... Which you still need to reroll because cannot get anything their players ask for right. They still spawn eagles (in wings tho!), wings of couriers, and poo poo that is not worth your time. It's better, but only marginally.
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Welp guess I'll play again when the next exploit is out E: I have enough to fit a type 9
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frank.club posted:Welp guess I'll play again when the next exploit is out Once you have an upgraded Type 9, can't you just ship actual poo poo- biowaste- on short trips and still turn out enough to buy a new minor ship per run?
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Sard posted:Once you have an upgraded Type 9, can't you just ship actual poo poo- biowaste- on short trips and still turn out enough to buy a new minor ship per run? On a good trade route you can make 2mil per trip in a T9. A couple trips and you have an A-class Vulture. It'd take 500 trips to reach a billion.
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Mike the TV posted:On a good trade route you can make 2mil per trip in a T9. A couple trips and you have an A-class Vulture. It'd take 500 trips to reach a billion. Jesus
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So I haven't really played since 1.2 Has anything even remotely interesting happened with Jotunheim or was that given up on? Is the best ship for exploring still the Asp? Is there somewhere I can read specifics on Smuggling/Salvage missions? Are these something 1.4 introduced? Are there any other major changes in features/how to grind money that I need to know? Sankis fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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SciFiDownBeat posted:R E M E M B E R drat, I was debating going to go find Sothis now that I had something better than a Sidewinder, too. Guess I'll just do some gently caress-around exploring next time I log on, instead. Also, I've noticed some people mention that the best way to deal with interdictions was to drop out, chaff, and run back up to supercruise-- have I just been lucky in running into underpowered interdictions, and they get more difficult to evade when there's people with better gear? I've gotten something like a dozen attempts since I started playing, and apart from getting boned on the first two I've felt like the rest of them have been trivially easy to evade.
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Sankis posted:Is there somewhere I can read specifics on Smuggling/Salvage missions? Are these something 1.4 introduced? Are there any other major changes in features/how to grind money that I need to know? Salvage missions are missions that issue a special permit for legal salvage. It's a special flavor of Weak Signal Source, nothing fancy. The smuggling was a short-lived thing. They're just missions for hauling illicit cargo. 1.4 introduced long range ones, which scaled pay with distance. Turns out, taking those missions from exclaves 500ly from the bubble paid millions. It was nerfed 3 hours ago Sankis posted:Has anything even remotely interesting happened with Jotunheim or was that given up on? Is the best ship for exploring still the Asp? It was given up on, but we have our own faction now. Check the PGS thread for details. The Anaconda has the highest possible jump range, but the Asp is still the best all rounder. Edit: I don't know the specifics since 1.2 up to now, but mining is now profitable and somewhat on par with other activities. The new Hazardous resource extraction sites provide an interesting opportunity - since yields are higher at a RES, you can get wings of miners/defenders going, it's great fun. Expect 5-10 mil/hr doing this, if you know what you're doing. 1.3 introduced powerplay, and with it, the absolutely grindiest ways to make money. I hate powerplay and I hate its particular way of grinding, so I'll just say it's not worth the bother. Chrysophylax fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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I've only been in serious trouble once and it was when I was dicted by a drat Vulture Usually it's either hilariously bad stuff like an Eagle with no shields equipped so it's no issue or at very worst you can immediately just boost away as soon as you can move again My Cobra has no shields or weapons and employs this tail-between-the-legs strategy
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frank.club posted:Did they really nerf all other smuggling missions too? I don't know. I bet they did tho, since it's a nerf - salting the earth
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So, I poked around Sothis just earlier. In my opinion, cherry picking missions from Sothis / Ceos is still a reasonably lucrative run - it's just not as ridiculously profitable as it was pre-nerf. Hopping between the two stations in Sothis and the one in Ceos, I picked up 4 missions worth slightly under a million each, and filled the rest of my hold with the rare good there (crystalline gold). That's around 4.5 million for the half hour it takes to resolve the four deliveries. So it's still faster than mining, and at least as good as mass hauling. I'll note I didn't see a single mission that paid over one million credits, though, and even those were quite rare - I was only able to pick up 4 of them between the three stations. The whole thing is super fast if you're in a scoop-less Asp. Given the volume of missions with big payouts, though, there is no longer any incentive to go there in a ship larger than an Asp. tl;dr Sothis is no longer a gold rush, but it's possibly still the most efficient use of time for money. Just by a smaller margin, post-nerf.
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