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Majestic posted:Well, it took me more than ten years to get someone to buy an avatar, but I suppose that's a milestone. I can't say I disagree with the sentiment. I'll just make sure I'm not browsing the forums during our next accreditation process. This is goddamn truth. Honestly I don't think that you can teach social skills, and it's not your responsibility to teach social skills. That's why it's dumb as hell for professional engineering bodies to be pushing university academics to try and instill them in classes (through group work). I'm a project engineer and I did exactly one unit that was applicable to my job now, which was a final year unit, and optional, and taught by someone who also ran their own engineering company, who got replaced the year after I did it. It gave me an intro to time estimating, cost estimating, using microsoft project, equipment estimating and procedure production. That was the applicable unit. Honestly my job should be an apprenticeship, the vast majority of what I learned I learned while working it. Engineers being unjustifiably smug shitlords is par for the course. I am always astonished whenever they look down on riggers/welders/fitters/divers etc. because they don't happen to have a degree. I love working with those guys, and rely so much on their experience to produce my procedures because these are the guys executing it and these are the ones with 20 bloody years experience doing exactly this. Most of my job is getting input from experts and anyone who doesn't recognise that a rigger is an expert in rigging is a loving idiot. Meanwhile Engineers Australia thinks it's a problem with education not with the culture of elitism that they've cultured.
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Splode posted:Engineers Australia ARE loving idiots who stick their oar in too often. Whenever we're doing a subject that's just completely worthless it always comes out that engineers Australia forced the uni to do it. I didn't buy that av though. Engineers Australia are loving useless. The only good thing to come out of EA is the young engineers group, which revolves around drinking and putting in good words for people looking for work. The rest of EA is a horrible circlejerk of morons trying to convince eachother that they are great.
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Yeah engineers just need to build a bridge and get over themselves.
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Cartoon posted:Yeah engineers just need to build a bridge and get over themselves. They cant due to the watering down of education.
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Majestic posted:
Wholeheartedly agree. Not saying that engineers dont have their place and dont bring anything to the table. But boy if for a few scoial skills we would have an ubermench of engineers and maybe this industry i am in would suffer not so much drama, leading sadly to a cohort of burnt out men who prefer to drive trucks than use their skills .
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Is there any work experience done as part of Engineering? 95% of my tertiary study was entirely useless, but the reason I actually know how to do my job is because I spent 12 weeks doing it under the supervision of experienced people.
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Cartoon posted:Yeah engineers just need to build a bridge and get over themselves. If only we still had an infrastructure Prime Minister
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 02:29 |
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In news that will come as a surprise to exactly no one, that border farce operation in Melbourne wasn't going to be random and was going to be targeted.
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Birb Katter posted:In news that will come as a surprise to exactly no one, that border farce operation in Melbourne wasn't going to be random and was going to be targeted. How is it that in TYOOL 2015 departments are still getting stung by track cha- Plotterboy posted:They cant due to the watering down of education. Carry on.
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Julia Gillard advocates for Hillary Clinton in campaign video for US presidential hopeful http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-20/julia-gillard-recruited-for-new-hillary-clinton-campaign-video/6868534 quote:Former prime minister Julia Gillard has been recruited as part of Hillary Clinton's United States presidential bid.
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'The hard power of force' is a great line.quote:http://adamcadre.ac/13lyttle.html open24hours fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Plotterboy posted:They cant due to the watering down of education. mate that just means you need to put the pylons in deeper.
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Cartoon posted:Also when it was reported Hockey had quit I assumed it meant he wouldn't be standing again. Nope he's going to force a byelection. What a huge sookie sack of poo poo. Because unless the Labor/Greens find a live one or Ted Mack decides to come out of retirement and backflip on parliamentary pensions, that's the only goddamn thing I'm going to get out of this election.
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Zenithe posted:Is there any work experience done as part of Engineering? 95% of my tertiary study was entirely useless, but the reason I actually know how to do my job is because I spent 12 weeks doing it under the supervision of experienced people. We removed our compulsory work experience requirement for a couple of reasons. Amongst those reasons was the fact that we have a huge international student cohort, and these students found it very difficult to find work placements, due both to their lack of language competency and their lack of family/social networks within the country. Making their ability to graduate depend on them finding an internship was viewed by many as an unfair burden, which I agree with. Unfortunately while we still encourage people to do internships and work experience (and it certainly greatly aids their ability to find employment after graduation), there is no longer a requirement to do so.
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 03:52 |
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Rundle wrote about Kathy Jackson, can anyone post it?
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 03:58 |
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All I've seen today has been about Cuntstruck-gate.
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Amoeba102 posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-19/asylum-seeker-sets-himself-on-fire-on-phone-to-refugee-advocates/6867712 This is extremely loving distressing.
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Majestic posted:We removed our compulsory work experience requirement for a couple of reasons. Amongst those reasons was the fact that we have a huge international student cohort, and these students found it very difficult to find work placements, due both to their lack of language competency and their lack of family/social networks within the country. Making their ability to graduate depend on them finding an internship was viewed by many as an unfair burden, which I agree with. Unfortunately while we still encourage people to do internships and work experience (and it certainly greatly aids their ability to find employment after graduation), there is no longer a requirement to do so. There was a time many moons ago that firms accepted as par for the course that they would hire and train up new graduates and school leavers, but these days they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want all their new hires to arrive on day one with the skills and work ethic that will have them be productive, rather than accepting the need to train this themselves. These firms quite happily will outsource the training requirement and demand that graduates be work-ready because the system allows them to do so. The end result is that they either institutionalise a training regime into their workplace voluntarily, or make a decision to pay more for experienced employees instead of graduates. The net effect being more poaching within the industry and leaving more grads to wither and wane in coffee shops. It's not just in the engineering field this happens either.
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Actually now that I think about it, industries where the graduates are not heavy on social skills would be more prone to trying to outsource training requirements because effective training requires a high degree of people skills. lmao
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I'll be characterised as that scumbag, crook, fraudster, and, at the very best, somebody who's been bewitched by an evil harridan, namely Kathy [Jackson]," Lawler told ABC journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna. "That I'm oval office-struck and that I have been utterly taken in by somebody who's a serious crook," he said. Lol
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Where the hell do you even get a vocab like that ahahahah
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Lid posted:Rundle wrote about Kathy Jackson, can anyone post it? quote:Rundle: the dramatic irony in Kathy Jackson's tragedy
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 04:49 |
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I'm having a hard time making any sense of the whole thing because this is me right now :
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 04:57 |
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You haven't heard the term star-struck?
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open24hours posted:You haven't heard the term star-struck? of course old bean, it was my legal defence wrt the justin bieber concert fiasco i got caught up in unjustly btw
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Orkin Mang posted:of course old bean, it was my legal defence wrt the justin bieber concert fiasco i got caught up in unjustly btw Shouldn't have drunk so much bieber-hol.
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hooman posted:Shouldn't have drunk so much bieber-hol. i had drunk some biebourbon and frankly, no regrets.
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Orkin Mang posted:i had drunk some biebourbon and frankly, no regrets. Justinny of Biebeer.
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Milky Moor posted:asmr die in a fire Tommofork posted:As an aside, have you been referred to a jobseeker agency? I was referred to one that specializes in working with disabled people, and basically any time I said "i can't loving do this" at the meeting they were like "ok cool". This was after I put in a new med cert with centrelink that said I was incapacitated, and they said "no gently caress you according to our meeting 4 months ago you're fine". They gave me a pass because I occasionally do volunteer work with the Salvation Army, but they did tell me to do more hours. I can't wait for the AAT hearing to sort these fuckers out. GoldStandardConure posted:I don't think it will achieve much but I signed your petition for you. thx m8 Birb Katter posted:This is why we should switch to a for profit model with universities. This way they'll not need to milk as much money as they do out of international students so they can get richer. oh sure, then people can get priced out of uni by $100k per annum gently caress off HookShot posted:My university had an entire course called "Busines English", the only required English course for the business degree that was fully designed for international students. Well, to be fair, I know plenty of born and bred Aussies who can't use proper homophones to save their lives. They went through 13 years of public school and still can't grasp the rules of their native language. They're not learning impaired or anything, they just... well, suck. freebooter posted:Yes but unfortunately MPs have to renounce any extra nationalities before sitting in parliament, IIRC Inquiring minds would like to know when Abbott's Form RN is going to turn up (or failing that, when is he going to face the music over illegally sitting in Parliament).
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hooman posted:Justinny of Biebeer. haha solid
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ScreamingLlama posted:They gave me a pass because I occasionally do volunteer work with the Salvation Army, but they did tell me to do more hours. I can't wait for the AAT hearing to sort these fuckers out. Vinnies is pretty good, and I'm sure others here can give you advice on other places to donate your time to.
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So apparently Nauru gave Chris Kenny a visa and let him interview Abyan:The Guardian posted:The Australian’s associate editor Chris Kenny is the first foreign news reporter in 18 months to be granted a visa by the Nauruan government to visit the island. Whole thing stinks to high hell. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/20/chris-kenny-first-foreign-news-reporter-in-18-months-granted-nauru-visa?CMP=soc_567
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im going to make tacos of the soft shell variety but also, of the hard shell variety. pwned newbs. pace out& namaste.
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 06:09 |
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Love-struck was a thing people used to say. Or so I've heard.
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I know starstruck and lovestruck, but have never. ever. heard of cuntstruck.
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# ? Oct 20, 2015 06:19 |
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And nobody believed a single word of what the self proclaimed alleged dogfucker said.
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I can't believe Chris Kenny's application fee was waived on the condition he hosed a dog, insane to consider
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oval office-struck was featured in HBO's historical drama Deadwood.
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"People can get pregnant!?? What, like dogs??" -chrus kennny
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Deny Chris Kenny re entry into Australia on character grounds
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