Intel&Sebastian posted:

Just once before my death I'd like to see this forum just say "that cartoon space robot bird is played by a guy who is a Republican. I disagree with him there, but he's a fine space bird" and be done with it.

ToastyPotato posted:

I only brought up his politics because he is playing Sam Wilson, who RWM are currently making GBS threads themselves over because they say Marvel is pushing a Liberal agenda with him. I thought that it was funny that within a day of that story breaking, he seemed to have come out in favor of Trump in an interview.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Just once before my death I'd like to see this forum just say "that cartoon space robot bird is played by a guy who is a Republican. I disagree with him there, but he's a fine space bird" and be done with it.

Threep posted:

Well, the book being complained about was written by guy who's run for office as a Republican and ranted about how black people moving in was ruining his business

DrProsek posted:

Are you sure you aren't thinking of a different Nick Spencer? All my googling suggests the Nick Spencer that writes for Marvel isn't the same Nick Spencer that was on the Cincinnati city council.

Threep posted:

It's him

ToastyPotato posted:

I only brought up his politics because he is playing Sam Wilson, who RWM are currently making GBS threads themselves over because they say Marvel is pushing a Liberal agenda with him. I thought that it was funny that within a day of that story breaking, he seemed to have come out in favor of Trump in an interview.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Yeah talking about him is no problem, it's the odd compulsion to rehab anyone goons like from culture that don't toe the d&d line.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Yeah talking about him is no problem, it's the odd compulsion to rehab anyone goons like from culture that don't toe the d&d line.

KomradeX posted:

I thought it's always been clear that Cap was a not racist New Dealer. Who actually believed in the ideals of America and that everyone should have a fair shot at them, to the point that after Watergate he gave up being Captain America cause Nixon disgraced the White House. He got over it eventually. Wasn't there a time he also took Reagan to task?

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Yeah talking about him is no problem, it's the odd compulsion to rehab anyone goons like from culture that don't toe the d&d line.

zeroprime posted:

But what if flying bird man is a dumb character with bad lines and felt like the only reason he was added to the movie was in hopes of being a popular kids doll?

zeroprime posted:

But what if flying bird man is a dumb character with bad lines and felt like the only reason he was added to the movie was in hopes of being a popular kids doll?

Literally The Worst posted:

does anyone actually want me to poo poo words about the falcon's importance as a superhero in and of himself and also the importance of his relationship with cap

fun fact the falcon was the first black superhero to not have black in his name

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Just once before my death I'd like to see this forum just say "that cartoon space robot bird is played by a guy who is a Republican. I disagree with him there, but he's a fine space bird" and be done with it.

Literally The Worst posted:

does anyone actually want me to poo poo words about the falcon's importance as a superhero in and of himself and also the importance of his relationship with cap

fun fact the falcon was the first black superhero to not have black in his name

Literally The Worst posted:

also nixon was running a shadow government and the story ends with nixon shooting himself in the head

marvel!

quote:

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump and Ben Carson now stand alone at the top of the Republican field, as Carly Fiorina's brief foray into the top tier of candidates seeking the GOP nomination for president appears to have ended, a new CNN/ORC poll finds.

Fiorina has lost 11 points in the last month, declining from 15% support and second place to 4% and a tie for seventh place.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Crowder tears incoming


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/20/politics/poll-donald-trump-ben-carson-gop/index.html

quote:

The company town gets a bad rap. Tennessee Ernie Ford lamented that he owed his soul to the company store, and the abuses associated with company towns — artificially high rents on company housing, high prices at those company stores, the scrip system, effective debt bondage — are familiar features of folk economics.

The strange thing is that a great many workers liked — even loved — those company towns. Some of them were awful and exploitative, but many were at least partly philanthropic expressions of Progressive-era utopian idealism, “conscious capitalism” before its time. In the United Kingdom the Cadbury company, which was owned by a reformist Quaker family, founded Bourneville, a company town built with an eye toward helping Cadbury workers achieve a standard of living that they could not secure on their own, with high levels of municipal services, better public hygiene, tidy subsidized housing, recreational facilities, etc. — and no pubs. In the United States, the Pullman Company was famous/infamous for its company-town paternalism.

Many company towns were based on extractive businesses — oil, mining, timbering — and hence often were located in remote areas, which in turn created monopoly conditions for the companies that owned the towns. Monopolies are rarely good things, but keep in mind that the idea of a monopoly exercised in the public interest was a common feature of progressive thinking a century ago, as it is today. (Some people never learn.) To be sure, there was an ever-present element of self-interest on the part of employers, but there was also a belief, perhaps naïve, that this corporate-municipal paternalism could be part of a virtuous cycle — companies would invest in the well-being of their workers, those workers would be happier and more productive, the companies would grow more profitable and thus have more resources to invest in the happiness and moral uplift of their workers, and so on. You hear the same kind of arguments made today for mandatory-leave laws.

VitalSigns posted:

Monopolies are rarely good things, which is why dumb-dumb progressives supported them in 1900 and still support monopolies today because dumb progressives never learn. Now as I was saying, a company town with a monopoly on everything is great.

Pope Guilty posted:

quote:

In the United States, the Pullman Company was famous/infamous for its company-town paternalism.

Killer robot posted:

Yeah. For years I kept hearing about how "Once Captain America quit because of how he felt Watergate disgraced his country" as an example of how comics give relevant commentary on topical events and never thought to question it because why would several independent comics geeks be wrong about comics? It was pretty weird later learning on that the Marvel version of Watergate was about how someone implied to be Nixon turned out to secretly be the leader of a long-standing terrorist organization founded by Hydra, and was in the process of staging a coup by threatening to nuke a bunch of American cities. Then shot himself in the head and became subject of a huge government coverup. And that was what made him give up his identity as Captain America (for four issues) out of shame.

I guess the missing 18 minutes were more eventful than I figured.

KomradeX posted:

Didn't Anthony Mackie come out and say it was a joke and he wasn't actually endorsing Trump

Sharkie posted:

yep. "Sorry Donald, that wasn’t an endorsement. Just a bad attempt at a joke, I guess?"

VitalSigns posted:

Monopolies are rarely good things, which is why dumb-dumb progressives supported them in 1900 and still support monopolies today because dumb progressives never learn. Now as I was saying, a company town with a monopoly on everything is great.

Sir Tonk posted:

Looks like Martin O'Malley has some competition

Nonsense posted:

Justin Trudeau is in the band Fozzy.

Phone posted:

ahahahahaha

MariusLecter posted: