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Am I missing something about the weapons for the 2 shield users? Why are there single handed weapons with no shields - they just seem worse in every way?
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Mr Beens posted:Am I missing something about the weapons for the 2 shield users? Why are there single handed weapons with no shields - they just seem worse in every way? Style points
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Oct 20, 2015 10:23
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i'm not 100% sure but i think the charge attacks are different for certain weapons when you use them without shield as well
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Oct 20, 2015 10:24
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Oct 20, 2015 10:32
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Pitdragon posted:i'm not 100% sure but i think the charge attacks are different for certain weapons when you use them without shield as well Yeah they are different - in the comparison thing everything was just red (i.e. worse) for the no shield version - maybe the animations are different? I'm having a hard time getting used to the 2 handed dorf hammer - the light attacks are all overhead slams and only hit one thing at a time, the heavy attacks are wide sweeps but are really slow and I end up getting swarmed either way.
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Oct 20, 2015 10:36
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Mr Beens posted:Am I missing something about the weapons for the 2 shield users? Why are there single handed weapons with no shields - they just seem worse in every way? Much faster attack, more powerful charge, stronger hits. They're actually pretty nice, the strong attacks in particular are really satisfying and they wreck Stormvermin. They're closer to the Rapier for the Witch Hunter than the Shield. I'd definitely recommend giving them a go.
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Oct 20, 2015 10:39
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Mr Beens posted:Yeah they are different - in the comparison thing everything was just red (i.e. worse) for the no shield version - maybe the animations are different? I think that single hand weapons have a wider swing than single handed + shield. Regarding the hammer, you have to approach mobs in half swing and send the rats flying. If anything is still standing after the swing, block and dodge back. Surprisingly, I'm getting the most satisfaction from the game by playing defense and being mostly untouched instead of being a murder machine.
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Oct 20, 2015 10:41
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  pro dwarf gears, with flat modifiers that I didn't think exist (the drakefire stats weren't rollable, just a flat number) lewtt fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Oct 20, 2015 10:48
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What hosed with me playing 2handers is that i didn't originally realize that sweeps are not the same as charged attacks. If you hold lmb for just a moment you get a sweep which combined with the hammer means rats flying everywhere.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:15
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Seeing all these orange items is making me very jealous. Also I had a red helmet on my loot table once. Of course I didn't get it.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:24
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The charge attack on the 2H hammer does pretty poor damage, which makes me prefer the 2H axe. It is a lot of fun to see rats go flying after the sweep though. But axe's light attack is way more satisfying so ends up evening out.Dezztroy posted:Seeing all these orange items is making me very jealous. Level 31, mostly spend my time doing 1-2 grimoire hard mode Horn runs, and the only orange item I own is from crafting together 5 blues to make...a poison bow with faster movespeed while aiming, increased zoom distance, and some other garbage. Welp. Not that I would ever use a poison bow even if it had perfect modifiers.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:29
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Vargs posted:The charge attack on the 2H hammer does pretty poor damage That's because the Non-Charged attack is the big damage attack for the hammer. Just spam it to crush a single target like a Stormvermin, use the Charge to sweep the Vermin and that's it.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:35
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Vargs posted:Level 31, mostly spend my time doing 1-2 grimoire hard mode Horn runs, and the only orange item I own is from crafting together 5 blues to make...a poison bow with faster movespeed while aiming, chance for increased attack speed on kill, and increased zoom distance. Welp. Not that I would ever use a poison bow even if it had perfect modifiers. Don't use weapon types you don't like when fusing! Each slot is a 20% chance to get that type of item, so putting 3x Longbows and 2x Dual Daggers for example means a 60% chance to get a bow and 40% chance for daggers. 
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Oct 20, 2015 11:40
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Illegal Username posted:What hosed with me playing 2handers is that i didn't originally realize that sweeps are not the same as charged attacks. If you hold lmb for just a moment you get a sweep which combined with the hammer means rats flying everywhere.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:47
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Fans posted:That's because the Non-Charged attack is the big damage attack for the hammer. Just spam it to crush a single target like a Stormvermin, use the Charge to sweep the Vermin and that's it. The 2H axe also gets the super high damage, single target light attack though. It just has a heavy attack that hits fairly hard in addition to that, so I end up preferring it.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:48
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I find that the huge, almost shield level knockback on the greathammers more than makes up for their slightly lower damage than greataxes, especially on Nightmare where you just really don't want to risk taking hits.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:50
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The damage progression on the Witch Hunter's axes is wrong. I have a green 1h axe that does more damage than my blue 1h axe. The rest of the stats are identical. The green axe has an inactive trait I can't remember, the blue one has extra pushback and double stamina activated.
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Oct 20, 2015 12:00
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Tiler Kiwi posted:
  If only it had bloodlust instead of haste, it would literally be the perfect killing machine
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Oct 20, 2015 12:10
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Donnerberg posted:The damage progression on the Witch Hunter's axes is wrong. I have a green 1h axe that does more damage than my blue 1h axe. The rest of the stats are identical. The green axe has an inactive trait I can't remember, the blue one has extra pushback and double stamina activated. Green one can be determinated as a "tank" equipment. This might be a reason of low damage.
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Oct 20, 2015 12:24
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Why is the repeater pistol so bad and why does the game keep punishing me by giving me them? The repeater pistol is my favorite witch hunter weapon by a mile because despite all appearances it's extremely accurate. If you're quick at aiming for headshots you can delete entire crowds of skaven instantly with one click each and it reloads insanely fast, so it's basically like having a medieval glock. The secondary fire is also surprisingly accurate so you can use it to blow specials' heads off instantly at like 30 paces.
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Oct 20, 2015 12:25
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This hat appears to be made from at least 1.5 entire human skeletons, by weight.
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Oct 20, 2015 12:38
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Managed to clear both horn and supply & demand with 3 tomes and two cursed dice (on normal), got two whites 
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Oct 20, 2015 12:47
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TacMan posted:This hat appears to be made from at least 1.5 entire human skeletons, by weight. All the extra hats are so ugly
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Oct 20, 2015 12:50
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I think you mean AMAZING. The hat's hidden stat is +100 to jealousy from the rest of the party.
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Oct 20, 2015 12:55
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I think that hat looks pretty cool  The two skull trinkets also go with the theme!
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Oct 20, 2015 13:29
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I'm kind of surprised that they're not releasing a reskinned Warhammer Quest as a board game tie in.
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Oct 20, 2015 13:35
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Posting this because its dumb and i'm kind of laughing at myself. My CPU fan had died so my CPU set its clock rate way down to try and deal with it. I've fixed the fan and set it back up and the game runs fine now. My bad, game is fun.
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Oct 20, 2015 13:36
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dogstile posted:Posting this because its dumb and i'm kind of laughing at myself. Did the rat corpses clog your fan?
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Oct 20, 2015 14:08
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Kegslayer posted:I'm kind of surprised that they're not releasing a reskinned Warhammer Quest as a board game tie in.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:08
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Does licensing stuff like this make them much money? I can't see the tabletop game being all that profitable but they're always getting games published, quite a few of them good ones.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:11
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I can confirm that the dice are pre-rolled, since I got the achievement for getting an Exotic piece of loot before I even loaded the dice-rolling screen. Then in that same results set I proceeded to roll 7 hits and got the Gamester achievement, so I'm not sure what the difference is there.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:13
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Fans posted:Does licensing stuff like this make them much money? I can't see the tabletop game being all that profitable but they're always getting games published, quite a few of them good ones. They count any video game revenue as accidental. They don't believe video games get people interested in their table top product which is where they make their money. They also don't believe in market research and that they set the market. GW is dumb. I hope they go bankrupt and sell the IP to someone competent.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:13
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dogstile posted:Posting this because its dumb and i'm kind of laughing at myself. We all do it, friend. I once had a laptop that would automatically disable the high end graphics card if it was on battery (Alienware, yes I know, I was young) that had to be re-enabled in BIOS, so I spent a week unintentionally trying to overclock my integrated, lovely card so I could run MW3. Computers are dumb.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:14
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There's already a warhammer quest ios game that's quite good
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Oct 20, 2015 14:16
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Computers are dumb. mlyp
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Oct 20, 2015 14:19
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TacMan posted:This hat appears to be made from at least 1.5 entire human skeletons, by weight. Bone hat best hat.
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Oct 20, 2015 14:29
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Drythe posted:They count any video game revenue as accidental. They don't believe video games get people interested in their table top product which is where they make their money. They also don't believe in market research and that they set the market. Example of GW being dumb: everyone like the setting and characters of Vermintide? Technically this setting no longer exists GW literally blew up the world of Warhammer and replaced it with fantasy gold faceless robot looking things that are the blandest poo poo possible
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Oct 20, 2015 14:31
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rezatahs posted:Bone hat best hat. It Warhammer, somewhere in the setting there is a group of dwarves trying to figure out how they can decorate a skull with other skulls E. Can someone explain in more detail what happened to the setting? People are saying it blew up but I thought they just meant that GW wasn't supporting it anymore. They actually entirely redid Fantasy?
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Oct 20, 2015 14:32
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Example of GW being dumb: everyone like the setting and characters of Vermintide? Technically this setting no longer exists GW literally blew up the world of Warhammer and replaced it with fantasy gold faceless robot looking things that are the blandest poo poo possible A good friend of mine was telling me about this and he said pretty much the same thing, haha. That sounds really stupid.
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Pretty much. And the back story of the new stuff is just cringe inducingly bad.
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