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I've seen a lot of recent articles from WaPo, WSJ and more talking about how poor people can't afford insurance under Obamacare and are choosing to forego insurance. The articles always leave out that tens of millions are insured now that weren't before. At the bottom of the articles they'll maybe mention that the poor people they are talking about are from the GOP controlled states which rejected the medicaid expansion.
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So since we're talking about how the Republican party is set to blow up one nuclear bomb, here's an older article talking about another one they're set off to arm. It starts out positive. quote:For human to wean ourselves off carbon-emitting fossil fuel, we will have to use some combination of edict and invention — there is no other plausible way around it. The task before the world is best envisioned not as a singular event but as two distinct but interrelated revolutions, one in political willpower and the other in technological innovation. It has taken a long time for each to materialize, in part because the absence of one has compounded the difficulty of the other. It is extremely hard to force a shift to clean energy when dirty energy is much cheaper, and it is extremely hard to achieve economies of scale in new energy technologies when the political system has not yet nudged you to do so. It goes on like this for awhile, def worth reading. Here's how the Republicans fit in. quote:If this sounds surprisingly optimistic, that may be because you reside in a highly peculiar place: the United States of America. If there is a single vantage point from which the new global consensus on climate change is least evident, other than perhaps Saudi Arabia, it is the U.S. In a survey last year of 20 countries, the U.S. had the highest proportion of citizens who disagree that climate change is the result of human activity. And that is not because the U.S. is especially abundant in fossil fuels, or unusually removed from the effects of a changing climate, but because one of our two major parties is completely sui generis. From 2001 to 2010, a period when the scientific community grew more certain that heat-trapping gases were warming the atmosphere, the proportion of Republicans who believe the effects of climate change had already set in actually declined from 50 percent to 30 percent. quote:Republicans have set out to induce the result they predict, warning foreign leaders that Obama will not be able to carry out his promises. After Obama formally submitted the U.S.’s proposed emission reductions to the United Nations, McConnell drafted a letter urging the world not to believe him. “Considering that two-thirds of the U.S. federal government hasn’t even signed off on the Clean Power Plan and 13 states have already pledged to fight it,” he wrote, “our international partners should proceed with caution before entering into a binding, unattainable deal.” This was an American official warning other countries to “proceed with caution” before negotiating with the U.S. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/sunniest-climate-change-story-ever-read.html Which leads me to Rubio's recent speech on climate change. Guess how that one goes. Here's Chait's take on it: Marco Rubio’s Ideas About Climate and Energy Are Terrifyingly Stupid
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Oct 20, 2015 22:02
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zoux posted:Well let's hope that averting global economic Armageddon doesn't rely solely on House members finding political courage. Thats the situation we are in though. A few republicans who don't want to get primaried will have to risk their political careers
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Oct 20, 2015 22:08
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Which just creates a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. If the Republican party loses more members like Eric Cantor etc.. and in that same situation you'll see a overall more dramatic shift like you have now. So when the Debt thing comes up again they won't budge at all.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:09
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I remember, a long time ago, having a conversation at a restaurant with a nice man that I genuinely enjoyed the company of about oil and looming crises, when he shared with me the fact that he isn't worried because there is unlimited oil because God wants us to use it, and there will be no downsides to offloading craptons of CO2 into the atmophere because God wants us to use it. This is the public-facing view on alternative energy of the Republican party and a lot of people will not even need to be goaded into believing it.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:14
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AL Rep. Mo Brooks wants to impeach Hillary the day she is sworn in.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:15
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Your afternoon news update: What happened to all that shadow inventory we were speculating existed after the sub-prime mortgage crisis? Is it still being hidden, or is demand really exceeding supply?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:19
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Good to see a Republican with a grasp of reality on Hillary Clinton being president.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:19
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Freakazoid_ posted:What happened to all that shadow inventory we were speculating existed after the sub-prime mortgage crisis? Is it still being hidden, or is demand really exceeding supply? Rental homes would be my guess.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:22
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Paul Ryan is meeting with the rest of the republicans tonight where they're going to force him into his debt. Expect news about Paul Ryan speaker by morning.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:23
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Will Paul Ryan as speaker realistically change anything, since it's obvious now that the Suicide Caucus isn't going to support him hardly at all?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:24
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Epic High Five posted:I remember, a long time ago, having a conversation at a restaurant with a nice man that I genuinely enjoyed the company of about oil and looming crises, when he shared with me the fact that he isn't worried because there is unlimited oil because God wants us to use it, and there will be no downsides to offloading craptons of CO2 into the atmophere because God wants us to use it.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:26
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I actually think the opposite is going to happen and Ryan WONT be announcing that he will run for Speaker.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:26
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That's the thing, to even get the speakership, he's going to have to acquiesce to some of their demands, but at the same time, he doesn't even want to be speaker. None of it makes any sense at all.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:26
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Shageletic posted:So since we're talking about how the Republican party is set to blow up one nuclear bomb, here's an older article talking about another one they're set off to arm. In a similar vein, the clean power industry has been loudly complaining for some time about the probable end of renewable energy subsidies cratering the industry, seeing as Republicans are all but certain to not renew them in 2017.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:28
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At first I was convinced Paul Ryan would hem and haw then agree to it but I thought this would have been like fairly soon. He's not going to get those concessions and the hard right is now actively attacking him.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:28
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pathetic little tramp posted:That's the thing, to even get the speakership, he's going to have to acquiesce to some of their demands, but at the same time, he doesn't even want to be speaker. None of it makes any sense at all. I thought he said he'd only agree to be Speaker if there were no demands attached?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:29
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Yeah but is it really likely that the Freedom Caucus won't want concessions? The funniest concession though is that they want the ability to bring more legislation to the floor even if it won't pass so that they can grandstand more.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:30
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Hollismason posted:Yeah but is it really likely that the Freedom Caucus won't want concessions? They will, and that's why he won't be Speaker.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:31
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The funny thing about all of this is that if you look at the Conservative Review's scorecard for congress, Ryan has a 58% but Webster, the apparent Freedom Caucus pick, is only at a 64%. Per CR,quote:Most recently, Webster has added himself to the list of potential candidates for House Speaker following the abrupt resignation announcement by the very man Webster challenged in January 2015. (Politico) Arguing that “It’s based on principle, not on power,” Webster is trying to portray himself as a member who can build coalitions that bring Republicans and Democrats together. Conservatives, however, should be wary of Webster’s true legislative priorities as his voting record differs quite substantially from his rhetoric. - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/members/daniel-webster/#sthash.tPv12nLm.dpuf For context, CR gives Bart a 100% rating, hahahaha.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:32
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Lord Hydronium posted:I don't know if that's better or worse than a I guy I knew who explained that peak oil wouldn't be a problem because of the free market. Not how, just the free market would somehow do something. At least God has magic to fall back on. You're aware that peak oil means "production never expands again" not "we run out of oil", right?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:32
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pathetic little tramp posted:That's the thing, to even get the speakership, he's going to have to acquiesce to some of their demands, but at the same time, he doesn't even want to be speaker. None of it makes any sense at all. Paul Ryan policies are just as extreme as the tea party caucus, they just disagree on tactics. That actually applies to most of the GOP house members.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:33
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Captain_Maclaine posted:
Ah, 2002, such a heady time
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Oct 20, 2015 22:36
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Oklahoma races to the bottom! http://www.news9.com/story/30307257/boren-sales-tax-plan-reflects-shift-in-oklahoma-tax-base?utm_source=dlvr.it The article summarizes Oklahoma's annually increasing budget shortfall. It also highlights a sales tax increase to fund public education due to an income, or property tax proposal, being a non-starter in my lovely state. The poor people can just suck it up and pay their fair share already.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:38
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Democrats agree to vote for a Republican speaker in exchange for reinstating the automatic debt limit increase. I wake up and realize it was all a dream. I pick up my shotgun and head out of the cave in search of a meal, hoping the Confederates don't find me.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:38
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Democrats agree to vote for a Republican speaker in exchange for reinstating the automatic debt limit increase. I wake up and realize it was all a dream. I pick up my shotgun and head out of the cave in search of a meal, hoping the Confederates don't find me. That would be great because they'd be under no obligation to support the Speaker when in office and now anything he does will be tainted by "this guy was approved of by Democrats".
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Oct 20, 2015 22:39
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My grandpa has a huge supply of doomsday rice and beans. Should I go ask for a share yet?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:40
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So the House is trying to pass a bill that bars the Senate from filibustering. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/house-gop-debt-ceiling-bill-provisions-214976
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Oct 20, 2015 22:40
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Lord Hydronium posted:I don't know if that's better or worse than a I guy I knew who explained that peak oil wouldn't be a problem because of the free market. Not how, just the free market would somehow do something. At least God has magic to fall back on. The "Free Market" is more or less
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Oct 20, 2015 22:41
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Fried Chicken posted:So the House is trying to pass a bill that bars the Senate from filibustering. 
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Oct 20, 2015 22:41
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Okay rescinding my last bet of him announcing a week ago and saying Paul Ryan will not in fact run for Speaker.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:45
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Your afternoon news update: Living in Texas, I have been shocked and appalled at the dramatic rise in home prices; especially and almost exclusively since 2008. When the crash hit in 2008, home prices here were mostly stable and no where near as inflated as on the coasts. In the past several years, I want to say last 4-5, home prices have gone crazy. In some areas, Grapevine, Colleyville, South Lake, Allen, Frisco, and many others, homes that were priced in mid 100s to 200s have sky rocketed to values approaching 400. It's insane. It's bad for the economy and it's especially bad for young people. Plus, since our schools in Texas are primarily financed through property taxes, if there is a crash or a huge correction, our schools will be facing a catastrophic loss of revenue and I'm sure other states are in the same boat. radical meme fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Oct 20, 2015 22:48
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Democrats agree to vote for a Republican speaker in exchange for reinstating the automatic debt limit increase. I wake up and realize it was all a dream. I pick up my shotgun and head out of the cave in search of a meal, hoping the Confederates don't find me. A dream that could have been
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Fried Chicken posted:So the House is trying to pass a bill that bars the Senate from filibustering. The oldest saw in Congress is: A freshman Republican Senator asks a veteran colleague how they get along with their enemies in the Democratic party. The veteran legislator says "Son, the Democrats aren't your enemies. The House is". I think it's in an episode of West Wing even. zoux fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Meanwhile, on the Internet: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/20/4chan-4-trump.html quote:“I didn’t support him at first but the memes were too dank to ignore. So yes I support him now,” user HonkHonkSkeeter said. He wished to remain anonymous, as many did many others. (The conversations mostly took place through direct message on Reddit.) “I thought that his perspicacious usage of contemporary cultural memetics is both humorous and effective at garnering support.” Reddit votes and they vote for Trump.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:59
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everyone here courts with nihilistic accelerationism but reddit seems to genuinely believe it will solve problems.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:02
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Luigi Thirty posted:Reddit votes and they vote for Trump. Eh, I kinda have my doubts that the portion of the electorate that evaluates possible candidates on the dankness of their memes has that much overlap with likely voters.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:03
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is it still being hidden, or is demand really exceeding supply? But aside from that, there's enough flipping still going on. Plus the prospect of buying a house and turning it into an AirB&B if you've got the cash. But mostly it's banks.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:18
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Starter home is a stupid dumb thing anyway.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:19
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DemeaninDemon posted:Starter home is a stupid dumb thing anyway. I would tend to agree however, starter or otherwise, it's becoming increasingly difficult for a young person to even break into the housing market at any level. I think this is really bad because, I think real estate is one of the few truly reliable investments that anyone can make and it is, historically, a really good way to make a long term investment that really does pay a return on your investment at the end. It's not a perfect investment, but it's historically sound and now, the ability of young people to make that sort of investment is being negated.
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