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Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who has his own long-term leadership ambitions
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I too would willingly complain about rape to a police force that has repeatedly done nothing about it in the past. Choice quote from the front page of the Arsetralian 'from her seaside accomodation'. Should get an award or two at the Border Farce Annual Victim Blaming Awards (BFAVBA) night. But why stop when you are clearly on a roll? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-21/asylum-seekers-could-be-forced-into-warzones-david-manne-warns/6871214 quote:Asylum seekers could be forced into warzones under laws proposed by Federal Government, human rights lawyer David Manne warns By political reporter Stephanie Anderson Updated about 3 hours ago HOW DARE THEY GET IN THE WAY OF OUR CARS! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-20/funding-cut-for-protection-of-endangered-koalas/6871010 quote:Funding cut for protection of 'endangered' koalas on NSW north coast, Labor says By Philippa McDonald Updated yesterday at 11:11pm Can't have one of the darkie rappers Oh no no no no! But this guy looks legit! http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/anti-islam-party-australian-liberty-alliance/6871700 quote:Australian Liberty Alliance, new anti-Islam political party, launches federal campaign Wednesday 21 October 2015 8:06AM (view full episode) And to finish you off in style a feel good piece! http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/mental-health-expert-warns-its-toxic-to-describe/6871698 quote:Mental health expert warns it's 'toxic' to describe mental illness as permanent Wednesday 21 October 2015 8:14AM (view full episode) So being made to declare you have a permanent disability ( Centerlink) is actively bad for you and prevents recovery? Lucky we aren't doing any of that shi
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open24hours posted:Turnbull really should make him ambassador to Easter Island or something. I hope he's not silly enough to let him do what Rudd did. Turnbull only has limited options available to him. There's been reports recently that the party has had great difficulty finding board positions for Abbott given everybody knows how he operates now, and so failing that it'd have to be a pretty sweet but safe posting to convince Abbott to jump ship. If he has few employable prospects after being a loving Prime Minister he'll be hanging on as long as possible and it will just fuel the desire to get back into the top job. Gillard's main error was including him on the front bench as a sign of inclusiveness. Turnbull has kept Abbott on the backbench but can't do anything like expel him from parliament or the party.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:47 |
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Seagull posted:Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who has his own long-term leadership ambitions Mills mafia game is coming true.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:48 |
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Seagull posted:Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who has his own long-term leadership ambitions this part made me scoff
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:48 |
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Seagull posted:Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who has his own long-term leadership ambitions The Austrlian, 2009 posted:Anyone serious about rebuilding the party knows Dutton cannot be left to become a noble lost cause.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:49 |
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I still can't believe Julie Bishop came out of the leadership spill without hurting her public reputation at all. It really goes to show what the media doesn't talk about, doesn't exist.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:52 |
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open24hours posted:Turnbull really should make him ambassador to Easter Island or something. I hope he's not silly enough to let him do what Rudd did. That's not the way the old boys club works. Nobody wants to set the precedent of "if you oust the former leader immediately give them a poo poo job", because it'll happen to you next.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:55 |
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It doesn't have to be a poo poo job, just not one in parliament.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 01:58 |
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But then you hit a wall in that a) the job has to be important/comfy enough that Tony would accept it, willingly giving up his ambitions to retake his place on the throne b) any job important/comfy enough that Tony would take it doesn't want him because he's a loving dickhead.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:00 |
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Wait, what?quote:Immigration Minister Peter Dutton tabled a bill last week to strengthen requirements for people who are not refugees as described in the Migration Act, but cannot be returned to their home country due to risk of harm. Who fits this description? HOW does anyone fit this description? "It's too dangerous to send you back to your home country, but you aren't actually a refugee" -
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:01 |
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'The revolving door in Australian politics must be jammed shut' - Joe Hockey 'We love you Joe,' says PM, after Joe Hockey's valedictory address
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:02 |
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Les Affaires posted:Turnbull only has limited options available to him. There's been reports recently that the party has had great difficulty finding board positions for Abbott given everybody knows how he operates now, and so failing that it'd have to be a pretty sweet but safe posting to convince Abbott to jump ship. If he has few employable prospects after being a loving Prime Minister he'll be hanging on as long as possible and it will just fuel the desire to get back into the top job.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:03 |
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BBJoey posted:But then you hit a wall in that a) the job has to be important/comfy enough that Tony would accept it, willingly giving up his ambitions to retake his place on the throne b) any job important/comfy enough that Tony would take it doesn't want him because he's a loving dickhead. Assassination it is then.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:05 |
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Mr Chips posted:What does Abbott need board positions for? He'll be on 300k + whatever he makes from speaking fees at loon pond functions. He is really bad with money. Remember that he asked Labor to give him more money when he lost his ministerial salary.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:07 |
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SynthOrange posted:'The revolving door in Australian politics must be jammed shut' - Joe Hockey Bestdayofmylife.mp3
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:07 |
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Mr Chips posted:What does Abbott need board positions for? He'll be on 300k + whatever he makes from speaking fees at loon pond functions. Because it would keep him occupied. They dont' go finding board positions for just anybody who leaves parliament, they do it for people they need to be kept busy so they don't agitate for change.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:12 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:He is really bad with money. Didn't he have to remortgage his house because of LNP being kicked to opposition?
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:14 |
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Joe Hockey to become washing machine salesman post politics.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:16 |
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The British had a term called the Remittance Men, which basically describes a person living off regular payments from the family fortune. Sometimes this was because of ambition, but often it was the family trying to get them out of the way and to not cause trouble. In this case getting one or two board positions for Tony would be similar to the latter scenario. Get him out of the way, keep him busy and keep him fed so he doesn't cause trouble. Really this is what the Labor Party should have done with Rudd except it entails a certain measure of cooperation to do so. I imagine the LNP will have similar designs for Credlin.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:17 |
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BBJoey posted:Didn't he have to remortgage his house because of LNP being kicked to opposition? Yup. He asked Albo and Faulkner if Shadow Ministers could get a raise, they said no, and so he took out a new mortgage.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:18 |
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Wouldn't it be great if the former Prime Minister of this nation had to undergo further education just to be employable...
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:20 |
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What kind of house can a politician not afford? You never ever hear about any of them being under finacial stress, ever.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:20 |
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They bought their house for ~400k about 20 years ago, so it's not simply about paying that off.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:24 |
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quote:The former PM remains angry after four weeks on the backbench and has not shed a belief he can get his old job back from Malcolm Turnbull. This is the funniest thing I've read an ages. Totally believable, too. I remember a line from an article about how Bush was getting by after leaving office widely hated. Something like, "How do you live with yourself knowing that only 30% of the country approves of you? You just live inside that 30%." And so he was safely ensconced inside Republican neighbourhoods in Texas, having dinner parties with rich landowners, evangelical Christians, that sort of thing. Just curl back up inside your shell and convince yourself that it's the majority who are wrong.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:28 |
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Anidav posted:You never ever hear about any of them being under finacial stress, ever. Related to this, I've always thought that the minor parties and independents could put forward bill after bill proposing a modest pay cut for all MPs.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:31 |
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freebooter posted:This is the funniest thing I've read an ages. Totally believable, too. Which is all well and good for tony but he's only 57 years old, and if the longevity of former PMs is any measure he has another ~25 years at least to be agitating about his legacy to a dwindling audience. That's a long time to be sitting on your rear end. His problem is that even if he wants a figurehead position anywhere, people know too well how he operates and aren't willing to take the risk.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:32 |
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Why would the minor parties or independents want to take a pay cut?
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:32 |
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open24hours posted:Why would the minor parties or independents want to take a pay cut? Because in general politicians are paid far too much, and change will never come from the LNP or the ALP?
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:35 |
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Anidav posted:What kind of house can a politician not afford? Ricky Muir worked a number of low paying jobs and has had a few stints on centrelink so he's got actual experience of being part of the working poor. I seem to remember that after being elected he had to take a loan out to cover living expenses due to the delay in starting in the new senate.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:37 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yup. Something something national finances something something family budget.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:39 |
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Tirade posted:Ricky Muir worked a number of low paying jobs and has had a few stints on centrelink so he's got actual experience of being part of the working poor. I seem to remember that after being elected he had to take a loan out to cover living expenses due to the delay in starting in the new senate. Going into the senate will have set Muir up for life, because even if he gets booted out at an election (either DD soon or in 4 years time) he will have built up enough of a reputation that he can use to get better jobs for life.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:40 |
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Zenithe posted:Because in general politicians are paid far too much, and change will never come from the LNP or the ALP? It's not a vote winner though. They'd be giving up money for nothing.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:48 |
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open24hours posted:It's not a vote winner though. They'd be giving up money for nothing. Well. For the the good of the Australian taxpayer and budget but I guess as far as how they see it your point still stands.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:52 |
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freebooter posted:This is the funniest thing I've read an ages. Totally believable, too. It feels weird to be writing this, but I reckon GW has way way more self awareness than our Tones.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:57 |
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Who in their right mind would hire someone as publicly loving stupid as Abbott? Oh right, the majority of the population.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 02:58 |
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Laserface posted:Who in their right mind would hire someone as publicly loving stupid as Abbott? Then? Sure. Now? No.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 03:00 |
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Les Affaires posted:Then? Sure. Now? No. Yeah this really was a case of giving someone enough rope to hang themself.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 03:01 |
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Been thinking about this. From Tony's perspective, he's three years younger than Malcolm so he's got some time on his side. Malcolm sat down and plotted his return for, what, 6 years? Tony, never to be bested by any man, must be thinking he can come back too. He also looks up to Howard who came back, and I think it would appeal to his infantile romanticism to bide his time and make a comeback.
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# ? Oct 21, 2015 03:02 |
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quote:The counsel assisting the royal commission into trade unions has recommended criminal charges be brought against three current and former CFMEU officials and a Sydney businessman. Yay organised crime
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