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I mean, Mark Hunt guys. You know what I mean? Oh boy. Just... Mark Hunt! wow. -Atom- fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Brain Curry posted:I think there's a bunch of goons going. My wife and I will be there. Where are you sitting? Noted cool guy Mr. Nice! and I have solid seats - section 104, row 13
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Oct 20, 2015 16:13
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-Atom- posted:I mean, Mark Hunt guys. You know what I mean? Oh boy. In a world full of Michael's, you are a Toby.
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Oct 20, 2015 16:21
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LobsterMobster posted:Noted cool guy Mr. Nice! and I have solid seats - section 104, row 13 I think we're a few rows back in the same section.
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Oct 20, 2015 17:00
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-Atom- posted:I mean, Mark Hunt guys. You know what I mean? Oh boy. This post un-ironically but I'm taking a minute to find that Hunt vs Bigfoot gif in my Dropbox to post with it.  take this one too 
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Oct 20, 2015 18:11
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CommonShore posted:Yes? we may have voted for hunt, but we put our money on coleman
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Oct 20, 2015 18:16
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Good stuff here. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/20/9547333/what-deutsche-bank-moodys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc
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Oct 20, 2015 19:34
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Five Cent Deposit posted:Good stuff here. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/20/9547333/what-deutsche-bank-moodys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc Confirmed that the stuff is indeed good. It's got charts of the pie and bar variety.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:43
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-Atom- posted:Confirmed that the stuff is indeed good. It's got charts of the pie and bar variety. What, you want me to put actual effort into posting?
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Oct 20, 2015 19:44
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Five Cent Deposit posted:Good stuff here. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/20/9547333/what-deutsche-bank-moodys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc Funny, revenue from 2004 was $14.3m then in 2006 went to $180m
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Oct 20, 2015 19:46
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Reminder, that this is MMA Journalism and to be taken with a very large grain of salt. Also, I think it makes a lot of sense that Zuffa would give a smaller share of its revenue to athletes as its spending a lot larger share of its revenue elsewhere because its still trying to grow the sport.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:55
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Reminder, that this is MMA Journalism and to be taken with a very large grain of salt. agreed, bible guns and tiger skulls are critical
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Oct 20, 2015 19:57
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Pwny_Xpress posted:Also, I think it makes a lot of sense that Zuffa would give a smaller share of its revenue to athletes as its spending a lot larger share of its revenue elsewhere because its still trying to grow the sport. hey, dana white's las vegas driveway isn't gonna put snow on itself. you need to prioritize spending accordingly.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:01
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Lorenzo Fertitta once said in an interview "yeah, we pay our athletes a fair amount", now let me write a 500 page analysis on revenue sharing from that.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:19
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15 more fighters got cut. i couldn't possibly care about any of them except for tj waldburger and amir sadollah, who weren't very good but i liked for sentimental reasons (i connected to them because i also don't look like a professional fighter) here's a list: WW: Lewis Gonzalez (10-2, 0-1 UFC) LW: Ivan Jorge (26-5, 2-2 UFC) LW: Naoyuki Kotani (33-13-7, 0-5 UFC) WW: William Macario (7-3, 1-3 UFC) WW: Joe Merritt (6-1, 0-1 UFC) LW: David Michaud (8-2, 1-2 UFC) WW: Pawel Pawlak (11-2, 1-2 UFC) WW: Hernani Perpetuo (17-5, 0-2 UFC) LW: Vagner Rocha (11-4, 1-3 UFC) WW: Amir Sadollah (6-5, 6-5 UFC) LW: Leonardo Mafra Texeira (12-3, 1-3 UFC) LW: Francisco Trevino (12-2, 1-2 UFC) WW: T.J. Waldburger (16-9, 4-4 UFC) MW: Luke Zachrich (14-4, 1-2 UFC) WW: Roger Zapata (4-2, 0-1 UFC)
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Oct 20, 2015 20:39
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amir sadollah is the greatest success story the ufc ever had and also before jon jones the biggest indicator that perhaps all fighters are truly bad
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Oct 20, 2015 20:56
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Good lord, 0-5 in the UFC? Even Steve Cantwell had a win
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Oct 20, 2015 21:01
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canoshiz posted:Good lord, 0-5 in the UFC? Even Steve Cantwell had a win Did it ever come out what Cantwell's "serious problem" was? Also, Waldburger was tweeting that he wasn't forever let go, but that since he's on indefinite injury hiatus that they terminated his contract. He expects to come back to the UFC once he's ready to fight again.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:10
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CommonShore posted:Did it ever come out what Cantwell's "serious problem" was? Being Steve Cantwell Real answer his AMD Duo-Core processor broke
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Oct 20, 2015 21:21
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Cantwell turned out to be an apt name.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:00
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didn't Sadollah transition from fighting to one of those goodwill ambassador roles because he couldn't stop getting injured?
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TheRationalRedditor posted:didn't Sadollah transition from fighting to one of those goodwill ambassador roles because he couldn't stop getting injured? he was forrest griffin jr. for a while but then got his rear end kicked by human Distressed Leather Couch akiyama and now is unemployed
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Oct 20, 2015 22:15
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Oct 20, 2015 22:17
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He seemed like a cool guy. Sorry to see him go.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:20
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Triticum Guzzler posted:he was forrest griffin jr. for a while but then got his rear end kicked by human Distressed Leather Couch akiyama and now is unemployed
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Oct 20, 2015 22:25
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THe first time I saw amir sadollah was when he fought phil baroni, and I watched for 15 minutes as phil baroni just turned redder and redder as the fight went on
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Oct 20, 2015 23:05
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I thought they might hold on to Sadollah as a potential opponent for CM "Phil Brooks" Punk who had some name recognition, but I guess not. Is he still supposed to fight, by the way?
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Oct 20, 2015 23:21
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colonel_korn posted:I thought they might hold on to Sadollah as a potential opponent for CM "Phil Brooks" Punk who had some name recognition, but I guess not. He has some sort of shoulder injury that pushed back his potential debut dates
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Oct 20, 2015 23:23
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Amir would kill cm punk Im not even sure he could get past phil baroni but i think thatd be a good debut and Phil could maybe gently caress off afterwards once and for all.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:33
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colonel_korn posted:I thought they might hold on to Sadollah as a potential opponent for CM "Phil Brooks" Punk who had some name recognition, but I guess not. you have a skewed thought process when it comes to the potential match making of an old broken down pro wrestler
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Oct 21, 2015 00:40
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If CM Punk even makes it to the cage at this point, his opponent will be someone no one has ever heard of.
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Oct 21, 2015 00:52
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Bluedeanie posted:If CM Punk even makes it to the cage at this point, his opponent will be someone no one has ever heard of. Hopefully Jason Guida
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Oct 21, 2015 01:38
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Ironic Twist posted:Hopefully Jason Guida bazinga
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Oct 21, 2015 02:08
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*Mac Danzig sigh of disgust*
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Oct 21, 2015 02:19
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amirs cool. nothing about him made him a good prospect but he carved out a UFC career without having very many fights or any background or crazy physical talent. being a guy who trains and tapping CB Dolloway, dopey as he is, is pretty awesome
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Five Cent Deposit posted:Good stuff here. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/10/20/9547333/what-deutsche-bank-moodys-and-standard-poors-tell-us-about-the-ufc If anyone got anything out of this, I'd like to hear it. I didn't. It might become a building block later on in life when we can start getting more contract info. Here is their big stab at trying to nail down fighter pay: quote:While we can't answer this for every year we can try to make an estimate for the period covering 2005 through 2011 using our revenue totals and comments from the owners of the UFC. According to UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta in an interview with ESPN, the company had paid "more than $250 million" to the fighters during that timeframe, a total that he claims would be "not far off what the other sports leagues pay as a percentage of revenue." Also note that they weren't really even profitable until 2006 so I can't imagine them being overly anxious to start raising fighter pay before or around that point. They could try to extrapolate some info based on Couture or Wanderlei's wages and link those to the time periods in which they occurred but that might be too hard for anyone, let alone MMA journalists. I hope their future articles are better than this but I'm not holding my breath. Also Brendan Schaub is pretty demonstrably full of poo poo on at least one point now.
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I actually think by the time CM Punk fights the over a year and a half of daily training from Duke Roufus he's had will make him a pretty drat good 0-0 fighter, but he would still get his poo poo wrecked by Amir Sadollah.DumbWhiteGuy posted:If anyone got anything out of this, I'd like to hear it. I didn't. It might become a building block later on in life when we can start getting more contract info. Here is their big stab at trying to nail down fighter pay: I didn't either which is why I stopped reading when I read the word "estimate" like 30 times before that line you quoted from Lorenzo. It's the same analysis I do when I try to estimate how many PPVs Demetrious Johnson has sold (estimation: not many). Except I don't usually take ten thousand words and pie graphs to make my bad posts. Some good information might come out with that lawsuit UFC is dealing with right now, until then Fighter Pay is still not a good topic. But I agree, Brendan Schaub is full of poo poo. As far as an article on "is UFC making money?" then yes, I suppose they are making money so it was a good piece on that.
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Bluedeanie posted:If CM Punk even makes it to the cage at this point, his opponent will be someone no one has ever heard of. They said they'd treat Punk like all 0-0 fighters. Like Matt Mitrione or Amir Sadollah. Cough.
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Lid posted:They said they'd treat Punk like all 0-0 fighters. You know what? They're probably going to run a season of TUF in his weight class soon, and they'll throw in the house couple guys who have 1 to 3 fights . They'll likely have Punk fight the one of them who performs the best and/or represents a favourable style matchup. Of all possible ways of finding him an opponent, that seems the most reasonable.
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