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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Empress Theonora posted:

KotFE romance questions (and feel free to spoil the poo poo out of things answering it, since I'd rather be spoiled than gently caress up my main's story):


I'm assuming the Lana Beniko romance continues if you did it in SoR and Ziost, right? Is it viable even if you're super Light Side and piss her off constantly? Would having done another romance before SoR (I did Quinn's out of a sense of dreary obligation before I knew you could be gay) gently caress it up?


Don't know about if you've done a previous romance, but yes Lana's continues. She's only around to judge two alignment decisions, and there are plenty of opportunities to gain approval with her to paper over her disapproval of those two LS choices. In general she's ruthless but practical and likes it when you focus on the big picture above personal squabbles. You only lock in her romance after completing Chapter 9, and the game warns you first.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I also understand that if you lock in the romance while romancing someone else you'll get an e-mail dumping you.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Remember now there is no such thing as negative influence, like there was affection. "Greatly disapproves" still affects influence, just not as much as "approves" might (though the numbers aren't out on that quite yet)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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wtftastic posted:

He's supposed to be 27.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG8d0x1WcAc

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk

Empress Theonora posted:

KotFE romance questions (and feel free to spoil the poo poo out of things answering it, since I'd rather be spoiled than gently caress up my main's story):


I'm assuming the Lana Beniko romance continues if you did it in SoR and Ziost, right? Is it viable even if you're super Light Side and piss her off constantly? Would having done another romance before SoR (I did Quinn's out of a sense of dreary obligation before I knew you could be gay) gently caress it up?


Yes for the LS choices. My agent did the light side choice in Chapter 3 and pissed her off royally and everything still worked out. I did make a few DS choices, namely a a big one with Valkorion and using his power to save her rear end - she got a little mad at me about that one too so she's not all about the DS. You should be fine as long as you don't deliberately piss her off, which seems to be rather difficult.

The rest I don't know, I didn't do Vector's romance because ew.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

Cythereal posted:

Don't know about if you've done a previous romance, but yes Lana's continues. She's only around to judge two alignment decisions, and there are plenty of opportunities to gain approval with her to paper over her disapproval of those two LS choices. In general she's ruthless but practical and likes it when you focus on the big picture above personal squabbles. You only lock in her romance after completing Chapter 9, and the game warns you first.

That's good to hear-- I guess in retrospect Ziost kind of implied it'd work that way, since you still get the romance stuff at the end even if you let that spy live and she gets annoyed at you.

Fojar38 posted:

I also understand that if you lock in the romance while romancing someone else you'll get an e-mail dumping you.

Oh good, I can finally be sure that the Quinn romance won't haunt me later on. :v:

Medullah posted:

Remember now there is no such thing as negative influence, like there was affection. "Greatly disapproves" still affects influence, just not as much as "approves" might (though the numbers aren't out on that quite yet)

Yeah, I knew this in terms of things like the bonuses you get for combat/crafting/whatever, but I wasn't sure how it necessarily mapped onto story choices.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Beeme posted:

Man, this new jedi knight armor is so sweet it makes me want to start one. Why can't we juggs get armor this sweet. I'm trawling through Tor Fashion trying to come up with an outfit but it's rough. I can't deal standing side by side with these plot npcs in their nicely designed armor while I have this mismatched set of clown gear. :smith:

That's rad as gently caress, where does it drop? I'm maining a JK through the expansion and can confirm that it retains its status as Most Important Class.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Empress Theonora posted:

KotFE romance questions (and feel free to spoil the poo poo out of things answering it, since I'd rather be spoiled than gently caress up my main's story):


I'm assuming the Lana Beniko romance continues if you did it in SoR and Ziost, right? Is it viable even if you're super Light Side and piss her off constantly? Would having done another romance before SoR (I did Quinn's out of a sense of dreary obligation before I knew you could be gay) gently caress it up?


As lots of people have said fears of her being a big DS party pooper were unfounded. She's more or less back to who she was in SoR, though more worldy for sure. It felt natural and there is no big negative so you don't have to be a suck up, and she approves of almost every good guy dialogue choice.

Tuskin38 posted:

Chapter 8 Spoilers: Is there any way to save HK-55?

I really, really hope there is. 55 is awesome and way better than 51 in every single way. I will save you buddy! :smith:


Also it seems the new use of basic comms is gifts. Glad they are not useless like last expansion, but boy will your favorites need to Hoover up a shitload of gifts. Funny to imagine say the armory that weapon loving companions will have by the end of this. It'll be it's own planet.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Oh hey, if you're looking for a use for those Fallen Empire banners you've had mailed to all of your alts, can I suggest donating them to the Republic guild bank? I'll do some more decorating tonight.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

LegionAreI posted:

Yes for the LS choices. My agent did the light side choice in Chapter 3 and pissed her off royally and everything still worked out. I did make a few DS choices, namely a a big one with Valkorion and using his power to save her rear end - she got a little mad at me about that one too so she's not all about the DS. You should be fine as long as you don't deliberately piss her off, which seems to be rather difficult.

The rest I don't know, I didn't do Vector's romance because ew.


I did Vector's because shrug, I never expected any other companion relationships after launch anyway. Does Theron Shan show up as a romanceable companion?

He seems like a good choice. Comes from a great bloodline(might luck out and get a force sensitive kid, and since he's related to Revan they would probably be powerful(wooo Battle Meditation) , Highly connected in the Republic. Not a hive mind of millions and millions of bug people from around the galaxy.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Dexo posted:

I did Vector's because shrug, I never expected any other companion relationships after launch anyway. Does Theron Shan show up as a romanceable companion?

He seems like a good choice. Comes from a great bloodline(might luck out and get a force sensitive kid, and since he's related to Revan they would probably be powerful(wooo Battle Meditation) , Highly connected in the Republic. Not a hive mind of millions and millions of bug people from around the galaxy.

Yes, Theron shows up at the very end and can be romanced.

Eimi posted:

Also it seems the new use of basic comms is gifts. Glad they are not useless like last expansion, but boy will your favorites need to Hoover up a shitload of gifts. Funny to imagine say the armory that weapon loving companions will have by the end of this. It'll be it's own planet.

Yeah, and there's an everloving shitload of stuff to do with gifts. I think I'm just going to pick one main for now and focus on maxing influence with all of her companions for now, because boy howdy is there a lot of companions and a lot of influence.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
God I hate people that play this game.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Dexo posted:

a hive mind of millions and millions of bug people from around the galaxy.

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.
I ran 1-8 with only story mission markers enabled on, I wonder if there were any normal side missions anywhere.

There is a non-story mission at the beginning of Mission 9 near the Underworld Logistic's area Gives you some Crystals and level 6 Companion gifts.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Talos is the poo poo, what is wrong with you.


I'm curious to see if they gave DS Jaessa any ridiculous messages or anything of you cheat on her in KotFE.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Tuskin38 posted:

I ran 1-8 with only story mission markers enabled on, I wonder if there were any normal side missions anywhere.
Only one I've seen so far is the free speeder one early on. Probably missed some though.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Asimo posted:

Only one I've seen so far is the free speeder one early on. Probably missed some though.

Only the free speeder and the 190 legacy mainhand. Didn't see anything else.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
PSA: You can gently caress up and accidentally sell Nico's duster and blasters.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

SKY COQ posted:

PSA: You can gently caress up and accidentally sell Nico's duster and blasters.

Eh if you do, just make a new toon and send them their copy and then delete.

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Medullah posted:

Eh if you do, just make a new toon and send them their copy and then delete.

There is a Buyback option as well.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Medullah posted:

Eh if you do, just make a new toon and send them their copy and then delete.

Nice, thanks.

Hulk Smash!
Jul 14, 2004

Tuskin38 posted:

Chapter 8 Spoilers: Is there any way to save HK-55?

Also when you finish Chapter 8, there will be a crafting bench with a lore plaque next to it, use it. It gives you some mods and a Legacy main hand.

According to Dulfy No there is not. Although (speculation here) since he's a droid and all, it'd be easy to bring him back if they wanted

Hulk Smash!
Jul 14, 2004

Patch 4.0a coming tomorrow - no patch notes yet

quote:

Date: Thursday, October 22nd 2015
Time: 3AM - 7AM PDT (11AM - 3PM BST)
Version: 4.0a

Inverted Sphere
Aug 19, 2013
So as somebody with very little experience playing TOR, if I buy something like a Legacy Perk: Rocket Boost or speeder training or whatever, is it something that's automatically applied account-wide? I'm not quite sure I understand how exactly Legacy Perks work.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Inverted Sphere posted:

So as somebody with very little experience playing TOR, if I buy something like a Legacy Perk: Rocket Boost or speeder training or whatever, is it something that's automatically applied account-wide? I'm not quite sure I understand how exactly Legacy Perks work.

Global ones are for all characters.

Everything else is not.

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


Hulk Smash! posted:

According to Dulfy No there is not. Although (speculation here) since he's a droid and all, it'd be easy to bring him back if they wanted

They really went out of their freakin' way to say it's not happening, though. My character asked if there was a backup of his memory so he could be rebuilt, and was told no, "he said he didn't want to live forever." I guess that's some incentive to hold onto good ol' HK-51?

Unrelated heavy-spoiler comment:

I've pointed out before how I made several alts to represent "cover ID's" for my imperial agent. I'm delighted to find that SCORPIO is now available as a companion to other characters, because it means the alt versions can run around with my agent's favorite companion! Of course I'm still working on finishing up this storyline and they love killin' off your favorite dudes, so my celebration may be premature. I don't remember her being on the list of old companions who could die, though.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Just did my first group finder Ops (locked at TFB). Definitely worthwhile now - there are nice drops, and you are assigned a drop as well - I got a 216 shield and got to roll on a 220 one.

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.
Chapter 10 Looks like the next companion we're encountering is Kaliyo

Post-Chapter 9, unrelated to the above I love the interactions with the Republic and Imperial Ship droids, you can even get opposite factions droid as a companion

For most of the KOTFE unique companions, their gear is part of their geometry, you can tell by previewing the gear on them, however Theron's gear is not, if you preview it is replaced.

They still can't wear anything else though.

Found a bug, you can have 2 Treek's as stronghold hooks. Probably related to KOTFE, only one HK-51 though.

Tuskin38 fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Oct 22, 2015

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


One thing I'm enjoying about this expansion so far, and let me know if anybody's experienced differently, but it seems like now, all gathering missions are available at all times, rather than being randomly selected from a pool. Every time I've tried to send a companion out on a rich & bountiful Grade 8 underworld metal mission, they've both been available, every time. It's nice.

I'm also loving that missions are automatically sorted now with the highest xp-yielding ones at the top, which makes it just that much easier to grind out your gathering skills.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS
Chapter 1 and 2 spoilers regarding a character:

Can you save Marr? There was an achievement for getting 5K influence with him at one point. My warrior misses my badass imperial space bro. :(


Edit: Also, that moment towards towards the end of chapter 1. Jesus gently caress.

Given how things were going I couldn't not pick the option to say "If we're going to die then let's take as many of them with us we can!". Motherfucker didn't even hesitate once I said that. :black101:

Archonex fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 22, 2015

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


I've had a weird glitch with a companion who returned for a big role:

I'm playing as a Jedi Knight, and my ol' pal T7 has shown up repeatedly in the KOTFE narrative, but his appearance has been weirdly inconsistent. In cutscenes he would have his default coloring, and outside of cutscenes he would be wearing his red customization. Eventually he showed up as a more permanent companion, at which point his red customization vanished from his inventory. Didn't go in my bags or show up in the mail, it's just gone. Not the hardest thing to replace, but it's weird. I wonder if this is happening with other classes when their own companions become shared companions?

Tip: When you get to the planet Odessen be sure to go click the little sign by the crafting station, because you instantly get a cool unique moddable weapon and a pretty decent set of mods to go in it.

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Tuskin38 posted:

For most of the KOTFE unique companions, their gear is part of their geometry, you can tell by previewing the gear on them, however Theron's gear is not, if you preview it is replaced.

No customization for the story companions bites the big one and is an altogether strange decision when pretty princess Cartel purchases are most likely the main source of income for the game. I'm assuming it's due to engine limitations and cutscene consistency.

Gasoline
Jul 31, 2008
I for one am glad that there wont be a bunch of Lanas and Senyas running around in slave girl outfits.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
So I don't know if it applies to the other solo mode flashpoints, but the Ilum ones are super-wonky. Once you get the story quest for them, it -automatically- adds a tactical flashpoint: Flashpoint name mission to your mission log as well. Keep the story quest, abandon the 'tactical flashpoint: Flashpoint name mission, and when you talk to the NPC at the entrance of the flashpoint it gives you the option to pick solo, tactical, or hard modes. This still satisfies the story quest requirements, and is also really obnoxious and kludgey as a bonus!

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Welp my launcher is apparently hellbent on downloading the entire loving game now

clone on the phone
Aug 5, 2003

Read some people say they are on Harbinger earlier. I'm there too because it's west coast and east coast servers add another 100ms to my already 200ish from Australia. Anyone there got a decent guild or something?

Fifteen of Many
Feb 23, 2006
I sure am kicking myself for not buying a set of level 21 equipment for my little juggernaut before the vendors got removed. Now I have poor gear and am afraid to try tanking a flashpoint because I am awful. Whoops!

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Fifteen of Many posted:

I sure am kicking myself for not buying a set of level 21 equipment for my little juggernaut before the vendors got removed. Now I have poor gear and am afraid to try tanking a flashpoint because I am awful. Whoops!

Well you get bolstered in flashpoints. :D

Tuskin38
May 1, 2013

Have you seen these posts?
They're pretty popular on Reddit.

Fifteen of Many posted:

I sure am kicking myself for not buying a set of level 21 equipment for my little juggernaut before the vendors got removed. Now I have poor gear and am afraid to try tanking a flashpoint because I am awful. Whoops!

Just do a flashpoint, it should give you a set of armour for your level. Set your role to damage then

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Fifteen of Many
Feb 23, 2006
I'm half kidding, I'm more just still getting used to how thanking works and what group expectations with respect to golds vs silvers and stuff are.

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