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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
I keep hearing things about service industry workers. No, no, that doesn't sound right. I think you mean independent contractor? See, workers have regulations and labor protections in some states, we can't have that now, be careful with your verbiage.

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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Everyone in america is a impoverished millionaire

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Stereotype posted:

“It’s like interviewing a maid for a job and she says, ‘I don’t clean windows, I don’t do floors, I don’t do beds, these are the hours I’ll work.’ It’s rubbing a lot of people the wrong way,” Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.), a co-founder of the Freedom Caucus, told The Hill.[The Hill, 10/21/15]

Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States is just like being a maid.

I loving hate Matt Salmon so much. He's one of the biggest far right loony shills in our state (a big accomplishment) and I thank God that Napolitano, mediocre governor though she was, beat his rear end.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Matt Salmon is a bad man who also reminds me of a delicious fish and then makes me angry when I don't have fish.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



SedanChair posted:

Ryan should be used to just coming up with random numbers and going with it.



This graph is breaking my brain

Not only is the extrapolation nonsensical, the axes meaningless, and the source absent, but it also paints Obama in a very positive light

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

So are we more or less hosed now than we were 24 hours ago? I gave up following the Game of Speakers long ago.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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No we are still hosed Paul Ryan is likely to be speaker

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx

Luigi Thirty posted:

So are we more or less hosed now than we were 24 hours ago? I gave up following the Game of Speakers long ago.

Come back in November, it'll be a bit clearer then.

In the meantime, stock up on water, dehydrated food, and those little gas canisters for your portable stove. (you do have one, right?) I'm pretty sure those creepy Mormon survival prepper sites sell that stuff.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Luigi Thirty posted:

So are we more or less hosed now than we were 24 hours ago? I gave up following the Game of Speakers long ago.

Less hosed in the short term

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Ryan as speaker is great, it means he's off W&M and is going to be the new bitch for the HFC, but he's still at least not loving absurd enough to destroy the government.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

JT Jag posted:

- Something I'd wager 70% of Americans actually (sometimes vocally) believe, including at least a third of all service industry workers

It's always so sad when people who are getting absolutely horsefucked by the system are like "well I made some mistakes in life so I totally deserve this lovely miserable existence" like goddamn expect better for yourself.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Ryan as speaker is great, it means he's off W&M and is going to be the new bitch for the HFC, but he's still at least not loving absurd enough to destroy the government.

Ryan as speaker is great because he's going to hate his life and he deserves that.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

mr. mephistopheles posted:

It's always so sad when people who are getting absolutely horsefucked by the system are like "well I made some mistakes in life so I totally deserve this lovely miserable existence" like goddamn expect better for yourself.
And the ones that don't think that way believe that the job they are currently working is beneath them, something only brainless grunts should be doing, they're totally better than that, it just happens to be a temporary situation until they stumble upon the big money making opportunity they're looking for.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Joementum posted:

Given Ryan's public statements tonight, (1) seems to be far more likely. Funniest part of this is: the HFC's 4/5ths rule was just a random number Mick Mulvaney came up with.
I would have expected them to go with 3/5

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

JT Jag posted:

And the ones that don't think that way believe that the job they are currently working is beneath them, something only brainless grunts should be doing, they're totally better than that, it just happens to be a temporary situation until they stumble upon the big money making opportunity they're looking for.

I think those are called mlm targets.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Kill the Cook. :commissar:

Artificer posted:

That lady looks sad. :(

He's "washing" clean pans from the looks of it, and you know any mess he's making he'll leave for someone else to clean up.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

MickeyFinn posted:

I suppose it won't surprise anyone in the thread to find out that a member of the HFC doesn't know how markets work and why that makes the positions of maid and Speaker of the House different.
They're pretty goddamn similar at the moment, both involve cleaning up other people's poo poo.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

SedanChair posted:

Remember the exact moment when it happened?


I'm rewatching the 2012 Veep debate, when did this happen and what was the topic?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FilthyImp posted:

Paul Ryan thought mentioning death by car accident during the Veep debates was a prudent choice that would in no way backfire and hand a silver opportunity to Joebiden.

Some pages back, but Palin pulled this poo poo too during the 2008 Veep debates. It's like neither of them ever did any research on Joe Biden and what might be a slamdunk topic for him.

Caros
May 14, 2008

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

I'm rewatching the 2012 Veep debate, when did this happen and what was the topic?

I believe it had something to do with Paul Ryan's inability to get it up. Low energy you see.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nWs3KVNW2s

Here's 11 minutes of purestrain gold.

For fun, only watch the expression of the candidate who isn't talking. Biden looks around, grins, laughs, attempts to interrupt because he could go on talking for hours. Ryan looks nervous, annoyed, bothered that he has to be here doing this, frustrated...

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Ryan as speaker is great, it means he's off W&M and is going to be the new bitch for the HFC, but he's still at least not loving absurd enough to destroy the government.

You do remember we're talking about Paul Ryan right?
He just wants to do it in a way that he can't be directly blamed for it, much like all of these HFC chicken shits.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I would like to propose a constitutional amendment declaring Joe Biden Eternal Vice President, naming him Vice President in perpetuity. In the unfortunate event of his retirement or death, all future 'acting' Vice Presidents will hold the title of Supreme Vice President.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Best description of Biden v. Ryan was, "a man debating a boy."

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Accretionist posted:

Best description of Biden v. Ryan was, "a man debating a boy."

bill maher actual hit a dinger on this one

Bill Maher's Twitter posted:

Hello 9 1 1? There s an old man beating a child on my tv

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

I'm rewatching the 2012 Veep debate, when did this happen and what was the topic?

I recall Biden doing that poo poo constantly because everything Ryan said was dumb as hell.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Toph Bei Fong posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nWs3KVNW2s

Here's 11 minutes of purestrain gold.

For fun, only watch the expression of the candidate who isn't talking. Biden looks around, grins, laughs, attempts to interrupt because he could go on talking for hours. Ryan looks nervous, annoyed, bothered that he has to be here doing this, frustrated...

Man, I love this. Especially the part when Biden points out that Ryan begged him for Stimulus funds.

Edit: The debate was such a one sided thrashing that the only thing conservatives could say the next day was that Biden was too mean to da poor widdle boy genius. :lol:

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

Mr Interweb posted:

Man, I love this. Especially the part when Biden points out that Ryan begged him for Stimulus funds.

Yeah that's a great spot.

Sardine Wit
Sep 3, 2004

Mr Interweb posted:

Man, I love this. Especially the part when Biden points out that Ryan begged him for Stimulus funds.

Edit: The debate was such a one sided thrashing that the only thing conservatives could say the next day was that Biden was too mean to da poor widdle boy genius. :lol:

Where there's a will there's a way

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?
I only just heard that Ryan will get enough votes after all. For a job he doesn't seem to want (who would?).

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, is what I'm saying :allears:

Kaal posted:

Even though he's as right-wing conservative as they come, Ryan is still going to get taken to school by the suicide caucus for being a RINO. I give him four years tops, and he'll be hating the job within six months.

My money's on six days. Hours, maybe, if the Tortilla gang is feeling particularly dickish.

E: And Joe's back! Welcome back, Joe. The thread just wasn't the same without you.

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Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Holy god drat I just watched that clip from the 2012 veep debate and paul ryan looks like he's about to cry half the time

I would too if I were getting my rear end handed to me that badly


OneThousandMonkeys posted:

The VP debate was basically:

Ryan: We cannot elaborate on our plans (invade a foreign country!), but assure you it is better than Obama's plan, which is good but not great like our mystery plan.

Biden: lol


The bit I watched was pretty much

Ryan: The country is in shambles! Everything is terrible!

Joe: lmao you're an idiot


it was beautiful

Magres fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Oct 22, 2015

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Magres posted:

Holy god drat I just watched that clip from the 2012 veep debate and paul ryan looks like he's about to cry half the time

I would too if I were getting my rear end handed to me that badly

The VP debate was basically:

Ryan: We cannot elaborate on our plans (invade a foreign country!), but assure you it is better than Obama's plan, which is good but not great like our mystery plan.

Biden: lol

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

I'm rewatching the 2012 Veep debate, when did this happen and what was the topic?

Iirc Ryan was ludicrously bad at debating and would often just make things up.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
Iowa:

Carson 28%
Trump 20
Rubio 13
Cruz 10
Paul 6
Fiorina/Bush 5

lol http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/iowa/release-detail?ReleaseID=2291

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

That's the second poll in as many days where Trump is not in the lead (Wisconsin yesterday had Carson 20 Trump/rubio 18)

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
Yeah the VP debate was hilariously satisfying because unlike 2008 when Biden put the kid gloves on, the Obama campaign had no qualms about embarassing Paul Ryan. Remember when Obama invited Ryan to sit front and center at the WH for a spending/budget thing, and then spent the entire hour ruthlessly mocking him? I do.

--

Also as we prepare for Hillary eating Trey Gowdy alive, Newsweek (of all places) has one of the most comprehensive looks at this shameful debacle: http://www.newsweek.com/benghazi-biopsy-comprehensive-guide-one-americas-worst-political-outrages-385853

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


The GOP is in total shambles.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Luigi Thirty posted:

So are we more or less hosed now than we were 24 hours ago? I gave up following the Game of Speakers long ago.

Ryan says he will hold the line on the Hassert Rule, but no one actually believes that, which means he's setting himself up for failure the first time we have to raise the debt limit or pass a budget. But Boehner is hoping he can clear the deck on both of those issues so that Ryan doesn't have too -- it remains to be seen if that will happen or not.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
I still do not understand why anyone would vote for Ben Carson.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
That Rubio 13 concerns me. I hope Trump starts focusing on destroying him because he is the only general election candidate I'd be particularly concerned about. He's handsome, young, keeps his cool, and doesn't generally say anything that pisses moderates off even though he has all the same lovely positions as the rest of his party.

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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

I still do not understand why anyone would vote for Ben Carson.

The guy doesn't even loving campaign and he's as boring as a block of granite, to use a Chafeism.

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