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Breetai posted:The only time the EU is tolerable is when it's poking holes into George Lucas canon. Like the prophesy that Anakin would 'bring balance to the force' in a universe filled with Jedi. lol yoda is too good to just shake a salt shaker with his hands he has to use force magic to overturn it in front of him
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Oct 20, 2015 22:00
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There was some book I must have read in middle school about some Imperial scientist who made a planet come to life or some poo poo. It would open up holes in the surface and eat people. A planet that loving ate people. There might have been shape shifters too? I don't recall enough detail, but I get the feeling it was part of Star Wars Goosebumps. E: Looked it up. No shapshifters but the planet was named D'vouran. Was a young adult series called Galaxy of Fear, so, Star Wars Goosebumps. Even as a kid I thought it was pretty dumb. sleepy.eyes fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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Oct 20, 2015 22:29
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I am pretty bummed that they're apparently not going with the "Luke founding a new, less douchey Jedi Order" thing because that was like the one cool idea the EU had, as well as being a pretty obvious place to take the series. Then again, that will probably be Episode VIII, or the end of the trilogy, with the new leads being his first students.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:35
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Please don't insult my boy Tarkin
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effectual posted:Are any of those plain warhammer, not 40k? Idgaf about space marines, but i liked the dirty ork stuff the couple days I played the warhammer mmo. They are 40k, but have nothing to do with Space Marines(The titular Ravenor and Eisenhorn are Inquisitors, the books read like detective novels, and Gaunts Ghosts are Imperial Guardsmen, so they just die alot)
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sleepy.eyes posted:There was some book I must have read in middle school about some Imperial scientist who made a planet come to life or some poo poo. It would open up holes in the surface and eat people. A planet that loving ate people. There might have been shape shifters too? I don't recall enough detail, but I get the feeling it was part of Star Wars Goosebumps. Devourin. Really.
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Oct 21, 2015 00:52
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Earth also opens up holes that eat people!
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Light Gun Man posted:Earth also opens up holes that eat people! But enough about your mom.
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Acne Rain posted:lol yoda is too good to just shake a salt shaker with his hands he has to use force magic to overturn it in front of him If Master Obi Wan caught him doing that he'd be very grumpy.
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sleepy.eyes posted:There was some book I must have read in middle school about some Imperial scientist who made a planet come to life or some poo poo. It would open up holes in the surface and eat people. A planet that loving ate people. There might have been shape shifters too? I don't recall enough detail, but I get the feeling it was part of Star Wars Goosebumps. I read those books as a kid. I'm not looking it up, but I def remember a shapeshifter. He was either the kids' father or uncle. He'd take them from planet to planet, then gently caress off and let them almost get killed. For a nine year old, it was a pretty good book series.
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Kandak Sayaqa posted:I read those books as a kid. I'm not looking it up, but I def remember a shapeshifter. He was either the kids' father or uncle. He'd take them from planet to planet, then gently caress off and let them almost get killed. For a nine year old, it was a pretty good book series. Wait, this implies that are children of relevance in the EU who are not the Solo kids or Ben Skywalker... This doesn't sound right.
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It always made me laugh that Sheev was able to set up all these wicked evil science labs in the 15-18 years he had running the empire until the battle of Yavin. What did these people do under the republic?
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I'm glad that Luke didn't open up a school anymore like what the hell, he's the toughest guy around, i don't want him to be a school principal
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RFC2324 posted:But enough about your mom. 
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Oct 21, 2015 03:02
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There was some summary posted in May that has now become somewhat more legitimate since the last trailer matches with what was said. Han dying is cool and good. Queen Leia is dumb and bad. Everyone being everyone's kid is also dumb
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The one thing that bugs me about the trailer is how it seems they're going pretty heavy with the whole "nobody remembers the Jedi/Sith anymore." I can understand if they're trying to say something like "only a small number of people know about the small-scale conflict between Vader/Sheev and this new Jedi dude, for the galaxy at large they just assume the rebels beat the Empire and the whole Jedi thing was kind of kept a secret/not well publicized," but the Jedi were a major part of galactic politics for thousands of years, and I find it hard to justify how all of a sudden after like 50-60 years nobody even remembers them. I hope they shed a little more light on that in the actual movie.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:The one thing that bugs me about the trailer is how it seems they're going pretty heavy with the whole "nobody remembers the Jedi/Sith anymore." I can understand if they're trying to say something like "only a small number of people know about the small-scale conflict between Vader/Sheev and this new Jedi dude, for the galaxy at large they just assume the rebels beat the Empire and the whole Jedi thing was kind of kept a secret/not well publicized," but the Jedi were a major part of galactic politics for thousands of years, and I find it hard to justify how all of a sudden after like 50-60 years nobody even remembers them. I hope they shed a little more light on that in the actual movie. At it's height in recent history, there were maybe 15,000-30,000 Jedi and like 2 Sith In a Galaxy of like a few googleplexes of sentient/sapient beings Chances are most people never saw one, knew one or met one. We, the audience are constantly shown their importance, but the average guy on Dantooine sweeping his walkway and bitching about taxes probably has zero loving idea that space wizards not only exist, but secretly control most of the politics that surround them.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:The one thing that bugs me about the trailer is how it seems they're going pretty heavy with the whole "nobody remembers the Jedi/Sith anymore." I can understand if they're trying to say something like "only a small number of people know about the small-scale conflict between Vader/Sheev and this new Jedi dude, for the galaxy at large they just assume the rebels beat the Empire and the whole Jedi thing was kind of kept a secret/not well publicized," but the Jedi were a major part of galactic politics for thousands of years, and I find it hard to justify how all of a sudden after like 50-60 years nobody even remembers them. I hope they shed a little more light on that in the actual movie. Collapse of the Western Roman Empire knowledge lose? That said considering the Cold War setup that is apparently the status quo, if you get up in some backwater outer rim planet or some place that was super martial lawed by your local Moff or both, it doesn't seem that unlikely. Keep in mind the New Order probably heavily scrubbed Jedi from everything after the Emperor took power.
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It's because despite all the flair of lasers and spaceships the Star Wars universe is functionally medieval or contemporary. News travels slowly and often by physical media. People walk to shops where they purchase goods over a counter. Military personnel ship away for years at a time with no contact back home. Menial labor and dangerous jobs are performed by hand despite a plentiful supply of intelligent robots. Nothing about the Star Wars universe actually acts like they have advanced technology. Hence the ease by which history is lost with memory.
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I mean it's not the farthest leap ever and I could see it happening, but there are definitely some things I feel like would linger. Not everyone may have known Sheev was a Sith, but Vader was like the Evil PR Face of the Empire, and the fact that the galactic capital had a massive Jedi Council temple right next to the Senate building, that sort of thing. To be honest I think the best way to explain it would be in books/shows/comics that examined the era between eps 3 and 4 rather than 6 and 7. I can't expect the original trilogy to provide explanations for the new movies, but "the Empire whitewashed as much as they could about the Jedi after they took power" makes a hell of a lot more sense than "After the Empire fell people just kind of forgot about the Jedi despite the #1 A+ Hero of the Rebellion being one." Actually the whitewashing explanation would agree the most with the OT as well as the prequels since that 30-year rise of the Empire era went from "backwater alien junk merchant knows enough about Jedi to know their mind tricks don't work on his species" to "well-traveled experienced smuggler has never seen any evidence to indicate the Jedi are anything more than a spooky story." e: someone on Reddit compiled all the dogfighting shots from the trailer and now I think I'm more excited for Rogue One than I am for Ep7 http://gfycat.com/DaringRareKrill Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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drunk asian neighbor posted:To be honest I think the best way to explain it would be in books/shows/comics that examined the era between eps 3 and 4 rather than 6 and 7. I The best way to explain it is to not try to explain it at all because it doesn't make any sense. Just turn your brain off and enjoy the show. That's Star Wars in a nutshell.
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anyone who takes movies/books/games at anything other than face value as etneratinment vehicles needs some kind of a hobbies like dont read too much into it did you enjoy it? yes ok did you enjoy it? no move on that literallyh it peiople shouldnt be able to do more with other PEOPLES intellectual PROPERTY it slike calling a sponge an sponge when its soaked in whale cum
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drunk asian neighbor posted:The one thing that bugs me about the trailer is how it seems they're going pretty heavy with the whole "nobody remembers the Jedi/Sith anymore." I can understand if they're trying to say something like "only a small number of people know about the small-scale conflict between Vader/Sheev and this new Jedi dude, for the galaxy at large they just assume the rebels beat the Empire and the whole Jedi thing was kind of kept a secret/not well publicized," but the Jedi were a major part of galactic politics for thousands of years, and I find it hard to justify how all of a sudden after like 50-60 years nobody even remembers them. I hope they shed a little more light on that in the actual movie. Actually I would prefer if they not reconcile the stupid prequels with the cool mysterious sounding jedi from the OT.
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Han doesn't believe in jedis or the force in ANH, either.
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Vader is the Emperor's main guy and the moffs make fun of his religion to his face. If Jedi are forgotten in the new movie, it could be easily explained by whatever Luke's up to. Like, outside of his group of pals, he wasn't outspoken about being a Jedi, and his role around the average joe was basically a pilot/commando who carried a lightsaber. Any actual Jedi stuff happened behind closed doors. If he decided to become a hermit instead of starting a Jedi school there's no reason the Jedi would still be a thing. If you ignore the prequels there's no inconsistency there.
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Look at how janky Kylo Ren's lightsaber is. I get the feeling that he's more a fanatic than a true Sith and it makes sense that for someone without formal training his lightsaber and Vader worship is the closest he can get without actual force training.
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tomstuart posted:anyone who takes movies/books/games at anything other than face value as etneratinment vehicles needs some kind of a hobbies Thinking is bad, turning your brain off is good. Sounds legit to me!
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Tender Bender posted:Vader is the Emperor's main guy and the moffs make fun of his religion to his face. I could see Luke taking a look at the Jedi Council and saying "Yeah, I see how this could really gently caress up galactic politics" and just working with the Rebels as a military advisor/trainer instead of refounding a pretty hosed up religion
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gohuskies posted:He must have a terrible glue-sniffing habit if he's the one in charge of EU continuity. *∞teenth Palpatine clone hijacks the Millenium Falcon* "I guess I picked the wrong week to quit spice."
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lol, i just realized obi wan and the relationship he has with the duchess in the clone wars cartoon has the exact same dynamic and roles as padme and ankains, but they are both not insane
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May the spirit of Christ be with you *no Christians exist anymore* Always sat weird with me
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mr.capps posted:lol, i just realized obi wan and the relationship he has with the duchess in the clone wars cartoon has the exact same dynamic and roles as padme and ankains, but they are both not insane Yeah, the Obi-Wan/Mando-chick story was Anakin and Padme if they took their obligations seriously/ were good at anything
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RFC2324 posted:There is a reason there was a dude employed by Lucas whos only job was to vet the EU poo poo to try and make sure that it maintained some kind of continuity. nobody has failed a job harder than this man. drunk asian neighbor posted:The one thing that bugs me about the trailer is how it seems they're going pretty heavy with the whole "nobody remembers the Jedi/Sith anymore." I can understand if they're trying to say something like "only a small number of people know about the small-scale conflict between Vader/Sheev and this new Jedi dude, for the galaxy at large they just assume the rebels beat the Empire and the whole Jedi thing was kind of kept a secret/not well publicized," but the Jedi were a major part of galactic politics for thousands of years, and I find it hard to justify how all of a sudden after like 50-60 years nobody even remembers them. I hope they shed a little more light on that in the actual movie. prequels aren't canon so jedi were never part of the government with a huge rear end temple on the capital because that is incredibly dumb in regards to how people act in the OT about jedi and the force. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:nobody has failed a job harder than this man. as I said before, as soon as he was told he had the power to fix it, his first step was to throw the whole thing out(he was the one behind disney declaring all of the EU null and void)
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RFC2324 posted:as I said before, as soon as he was told he had the power to fix it, his first step was to throw the whole thing out(he was the one behind disney declaring all of the EU null and void) That man is a hero
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RALF posted:That man is a hero Can you imagine the misery of being told to keep all the crap straight up until that point? Its amazing the man isn't start raving mad(I bet he actually is, and throwing it all out was a moment of lucidity)
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I'm just waiting for him to see the light of reason and re-canonize the good stuff (super Old Republic stuff, Rogue Squadron games, X-wing/TIE Fighter games, Wraith Squadron, anything Kyle Katarn, Shadows of the Empire)
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SaltLick posted:May the spirit of Christ be with you we still say "bless you" when people sneeze even tho we know it's just pollen or viruses or w/e, and we call the 5th day of the week thursday even though thor is now just a fictional comic book cartoon superhero
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RFC2324 posted:as I said before, as soon as he was told he had the power to fix it, his first step was to throw the whole thing out(he was the one behind disney declaring all of the EU null and void) Xenomrph posted:I'm just waiting for him to see the light of reason and re-canonize the good stuff http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legends quote:Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon If you read the origional announcement it's clear they intend to pick and choose what they want to bring back from the EU. I'm just hoping that the Yuuzhan Vong and anything written by Karen Traviss remains consigned to oblivion.
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