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Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger
UFC.com should un-ironically have that in the upper right corner.

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Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Hey dunc I've got a theme for this GDT but I like yours too so if you wanna jump on it go for it. Also in the absence of goonweight let's take bets on how many pages it gets, I say three.

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011
After seeing Weidman's official Reebok shoes I can only hope Conor's will have one shoe being black while the other is tan

outy
Aug 27, 2004

Bubba Smith posted:



UFC just added this fight to UFC 195. A year or so ago I would have picked Magny to win but these days I think Thompson is coming into his own and will gently caress up Magny. too early to call UFC 195 the card of the year 2016???

Probably a little premature considering July's UFC 200 will have:

Ronda vs Cyborg
McGregor vs Aldo/Duffy/Cowboy/Pettis
CM Punk vs Royce Gracie
Bisping vs Hendo

edit: forgot about Faber vs TJ

outy fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Oct 22, 2015

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

Bubba Smith posted:



UFC just added this fight to UFC 195. A year or so ago I would have picked Magny to win but these days I think Thompson is coming into his own and will gently caress up Magny. too early to call UFC 195 the card of the year 2016???

I'm just patiently waiting for the UFC newsletter offer code so I can get tickets to this bloodbath of a card

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002

Bluedeanie posted:

Hey dunc I've got a theme for this GDT but I like yours too so if you wanna jump on it go for it. Also in the absence of goonweight let's take bets on how many pages it gets, I say three.

i have so many words to write about important things that i couldn't even if i wanted to, which i don't. have a blast.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Triticum Guzzler posted:

i have so many words to write about important things that i couldn't even if i wanted to, which i don't. have a blast.

I feel it is all our loss. Godspeed.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
I think the shirt was not an accident, but was instead made because reebok is racist

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

david carmichael posted:

somebody probably google image searched ireland, then traced it, then showed it to other people in the company and they said "whatever". why would anyone have any idea of what the country or island of ireland looked like from memory

david carmichael posted:

they absolutely do not


david carmichael posted:

reebok has been loving up everything and its really funny, but its also really funny to see the weird outrage over what is at the same time an obviously dumb mistake and a huge perceived slight against irish nationalism or whatever

I'm not outraged, or upset, because I'm not Irish in any meaningful sense. But actual Irish people very clearly are upset. And you may consider it weird or silly for actual Irish people to be upset, which is fine, but it's still clearly A Thing Which Has Happened, which is why I (and most everyone else in this thread except you and Atom) are incredulous that Reebok were so stupid as to create a shirt which pisses off the majority of their target market for said shirt. Most multi-billion dollar companies have localization teams in order to prevent exactly this kind of thing from happening.

Like, the whole concept of "fan death" is manifestly ridiculous but that doesn't change the fact that it would be very stupid to make a Korean Zombie t-shirt with a giant fan on it. And if Reebok did that I wouldn't be outraged, but I would be incredulous that they could be so goddamn dumb. Which is exactly the reactions going on in the thread currently. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to understand.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS

fatherdog posted:

Like, the whole concept of "fan death" is manifestly ridiculous but that doesn't change the fact that it would be very stupid to make a Korean Zombie t-shirt with a giant fan on it.

Disagree

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

fatherdog posted:

Like, the whole concept of "fan death" is manifestly ridiculous but that doesn't change the fact that it would be very stupid to make a Korean Zombie t-shirt with a giant fan on it.
I had never heard of this but it is real and wonderful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

Almost as good as the conspiracy theory that all American beef is tainted and gets exported to Asia, and that Americans exclusively eat Australian beef.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

fatherdog posted:


Like, the whole concept of "fan death" is manifestly ridiculous but that doesn't change the fact that it would be very stupid to make a Korean Zombie t-shirt with a giant fan on it. And if Reebok did that I wouldn't be outraged, but I would be incredulous that they could be so goddamn dumb. Which is exactly the reactions going on in the thread currently. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to understand.

its perfectly reasonable to understand i am just riffing on exaggerations of people calling it offensive for the sake of making joke posts. north filipino sea, yesterday being the anniversary of america giving munitions to IS, the 5/6s joke. i am just salty that all my best references went unnoticed

Goofballs
Jun 2, 2011



fatherdog posted:

Because it's something Irish people, the ostensible main market for said shirt, get upset about so you'd think somebody would have at some point vetted this

I'm Irish and its not super offensive. Certainly nowhere near the level of putting a Germany swastika ufc t-shirt together. It would be pretty retarded if it was a rugby thing because the "national" team includes both north and south but for soccer that shirt is just the way it is.

In the general population you wouldn't have a lot of people who are aware or remotely give poo poo about mma and far fewer would care about the actual country being depicted as it is. The people who would latch on to it as something to be upset about if they even are aware of it would be using it as a prop in a very long running and super tedious drama that should have ended 20 odd years ago. I don't visit a lot of republican websites so I'm not 100% on that.

That said I don't know John Kavanagh and I've never been to one of his gyms but if I were to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he isn't a total troglodyte I'd guess there's a bunch of northern Irish trainers or fighters in his gym who feel a bit excluded. And Kavanagh and his gyms are pretty much be mma in Ireland so if that's the case, fair enough. I'd have figured more of them would have gone over to train in England though.

I'm only talking about what seems to be on the t-shirt though. I saw some tagline about "show your territorial allegiance" which isn't on the shirt but that's borderline at worst.

This post to say its just a storm in a teacup ended up being longer than I figured.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


The shirt was a response to Poirier turning down the fight against Parke, who is the only Northern Irish fighter on the roster. It was a jab specifically at Poirier - it is his fault that Northern Ireland doesn't get to come play.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

david carmichael posted:

its perfectly reasonable to understand i am just riffing on exaggerations of people calling it offensive for the sake of making joke posts. north filipino sea, yesterday being the anniversary of america giving munitions to IS, the 5/6s joke. i am just salty that all my best references went unnoticed

In that case, I apologize for implicitly lumping you in with Atom.

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


Why is Reebok so obsessed with the nationalist approach to the fight gear anyways? It's not like this is the loving Olympics where countries go head to head. If they really were lazy, they could have gotten the UFC roster and then gone down going, "Red, blue, red, blue..."

LIKEINEEDTHIS
Oct 3, 2012

by Smythe
It was the most read article on the guardian when it was posted here yesterday. It's almost goofy how bungled the UFC Reebok deal has been so far and we're only one year into a six year deal.

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Charles Gnarwin posted:

Why is Reebok so obsessed with the nationalist approach to the fight gear anyways? It's not like this is the loving Olympics where countries go head to head. If they really were lazy, they could have gotten the UFC roster and then gone down going, "Red, blue, red, blue..."
Considering that they use the term "kit", it feels designed to have a more international appeal than a US domestic one; a World Cup of Fighting thing. The international expansion is focused on home-country fighters, overwhelmingly matched up against fighters from other countries.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


It's no big deal for sure it's just a very bizarre misunderstanding of the country. It's worth keeping in mind any nordies born after the Good Friday Agreement are entitled to an Irish passport and everything that comes with that and it's probably a bit poo poo to be from Antrim but still identify as Irish and see the map like that. I'm guessing you're from the republic too?

If you go up to Belfast there are still tensions and strong ties to the past. There are IRA gun murals all over the place still beside barbed wire fenced playgrounds. I was there for a fencing training camp last summer and out bus took us past streets lines with union jacks and the next stop had a large sign with a burning Union Jack on it. There are still clubs and organisations all over the place advertising them as "loyalist only". There were parts of the city Nordies warned us not to go into because people would hear our accents and start asking where we were from. The year before that we were up for a competition during an Orange Order March and someone saw a pal of mine wearing an irish footie jersey and asked us if we were from the South. When we said yes he told us he was an undercover copper and escorted us back to the train station to be safe. We had riots in just 2006 when the Orange Order tried to march through Dublin City.

Of course things are not remotely as bad as they were years ago, nowhere close. Still, it's silly to say that there is no tension or any political heat there. Of course a UFC tshirt isn't going to cause much commotion overall but it is still loving dumb as hell and a really bizarre place to be reminded of an incredibly painful and destructive time in our history. It is easy to say it is nbd just because it's not an issue for you.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

fatherdog posted:

In that case, I apologize for implicitly lumping you in with Atom.

the actual dude with the username "Atom" probably doesn't appreciate you routinely dragging his good name through the mud.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
I wonder what Ronda Rousey's mom thinks about a graphical error on a regional t-shirt sold on the internet

Big Bidness
Aug 2, 2004

-Atom- posted:

I wonder what Ronda Rousey's mom thinks about a graphical error on a regional t-shirt sold on the internet

You are the Edmond Tarverdyan of this forum

Goofballs
Jun 2, 2011



Yeah I was only talking about the reaction here in the free state. I can imagine people in the North losing their poo poo but if its not this its just going to be something else for them. I've only been North a few times but not in the last ten years.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

fatherdog posted:

Even aside from the lovely political implications, is a map of ireland with "IRELAND UFC" the laziest imaginable t-shirt design? I could come up with something better than that poo poo and I'm the least fashionable person on earth.

Still the most on point post about the whole thing

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
Oh my God we need fights

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!

Charles Gnarwin posted:

Why is Reebok so obsessed with the nationalist approach to the fight gear anyways?

Just look at Conor fans from Ireland, GSP in Montreal, USA chants, and Brazilians going absolutely crazy for 0-3 tuf rejects while telling every foreigner they're going to die. Plain and simple it sells. In a sport without teams "this guy is from here and that guy is from there" is an easy way to get people to take a side and have a rooting interest.

e-

Dangersim posted:

Oh my God we need fights

mewse
May 2, 2006

Seltzer posted:

Just look at Conor fans from Ireland, GSP in Montreal, USA chants, and Brazilians going absolutely crazy for 0-3 tuf rejects while telling every foreigner they're going to die. Plain and simple it sells. In a sport without teams "this guy is from here and that guy is from there" is an easy way to get people to take a side and have a rooting interest.

e-

Actually I think you're wrong and we should debate it heavily for the next 3 pages

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg

Dangersim posted:

Oh my God we need fights

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

lol

mewse
May 2, 2006

Actually kinda excited for My Main Employee Neil Seery

Wild Horses
Oct 31, 2012

There's really no meaning in making beetles fight.

Reza madadi still fights? holy poo poo

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Dangersim posted:

Oh my God we need fights

I watched Chuck/Wandy today, it was good. Chuck was a really good fighter and I'm glad he is now a spokesman for DURALAST, FEEL THE STING

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005
Chuck/Wandy was one of the few "dream fights" that actually came close to living up to the anticipation, even though it took place when both guys were a bit past their prime.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Dangersim posted:

Oh my God we need fights

Good thing we've got another Cathal Pendred spectacular coming up.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

fatherdog posted:

Chuck/Wandy was one of the few "dream fights" that actually came close to living up to the anticipation, even though it took place when both guys were a bit past their prime.

It was also really good because it was Chuck starching him for 3 straight rounds

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Detroit_Dogg posted:

It was also really good because it was Chuck starching him for 3 straight rounds

My favorite part of that fight was someone ran into Wandy's manager in an airport afterwards and asked him why Wandy didn't blitz Chuck when he stunned him with a punch with his back against the fence, and his manager said that Liddell hit him at the same time and he was seeing three Chucks and couldn't figure out which one to charge at.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!
I just looked and there's not a card I'm interested in until UFC Fight Night: Henderson vs. Alves on November 28th.... gently caress

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..

mewse posted:

Actually kinda excited for My Main Employee Neil Seery

I hope his boss doesn't find out about this, he's in hot water at the docks as it is!

Solomonic
Jan 3, 2008

INCIPIT SANTA

The new main event looks like they hired stunt doubles for Aldo/McGregor

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fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Seltzer posted:

I just looked and there's not a card I'm interested in until UFC Fight Night: Henderson vs. Alves on November 28th.... gently caress

mmajunkie posted:


Vitor Belfort vs. Dan Henderson

HOW DARE YOU

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