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PPR league and I was just offered TY Hilton for Doug Martin or Todd Gurley. Are either of these worth it? E: I also have Eddy Lacy and Mark Ingram on my team already. Pops Mgee fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Oct 22, 2015 20:39
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Pops Mgee posted:PPR league and I was just offered TY Hilton for Doug Martin or Todd Gurley. Are either of these worth it? Hilton will probably be better going forward, but no way he is worth either of them straight up without him throwing something else in the sweeten the pot.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:42
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manwithoutskin posted:Full PPR Seriously, even if you're overly negative, Hurns is averaging low-end WR2 numbers. Dropping him for some guy who has had two good games is ridiculous. Jacksonville's schedule is irrelevant - in fact, the worse it is the more value the receivers have. Bortles is not a good quarterback, his receivers are only viable when he is throwing 50-60 times per game. You won't get Hurns back if you aren't playing with idiots.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:43
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Spoeank posted:How many years in a row does CMike have to be a garbage man player before we give up on him I mean, he's only been in the league 2 1/2 seasons, as a backup to one of the top RBs for two of them. I don't think it's safe to say either way.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:46
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Amergin posted:Last year Knile Davis was putting up borderline RB1 numbers in JC's absence. What's that have to do with the Chrcandick hype train? Knile Davis train sure.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:50
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dphi posted:I mean, he's only been in the league 2 1/2 seasons, as a backup to one of the top RBs for two of them. I don't think it's safe to say either way. Well actually, he was a backup to his backup, and that backup wasn't even a good backup. 
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Oct 22, 2015 20:52
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Spoeank posted:How many years in a row does CMike have to be a garbage man player before we give up on him With CMike I have to see it before I'll believe it. He is fine to have on your bench in case he supplants Randle but he should be dropped without hesitation if you need to cover for the bye weeks of players who have actually scored fantasy points this year or need room to pick up an actual breakout player. I am starting Randle this week in my flex over Kendall Wright because just like with CMike, I will believe Randle is not the #1 back when I see it.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:53
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Pops Mgee posted:PPR league and I was just offered TY Hilton for Doug Martin or Todd Gurley. Are either of these worth it? Nope, Gurley is better than Lacy at this point.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:55
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dphi posted:I mean, he's only been in the league 2 1/2 seasons, as a backup to one of the top RBs for two of them. I don't think it's safe to say either way. He was the backup to the backup
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Franks Happy Place posted:My impression is that the Cowboys are looking for a back who will get them at least two or three yards each carry no matter what, so that they're positioned at 3rd and 4 (or whatever), instead of having Randle trying to hit home runs all of the time and often getting one yard or less. "If you need one yard, I'll get you three yards. If you need five yards, I'll get you three yards."
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Oct 22, 2015 21:19
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Spoeank posted:He was the backup to the backup From the way my Seahawk-fan friends talked about it, Turbin was 2nd on the depth chart but it'd be RBBC if Lynch went down (like the Asiata/McKinnon situation.) I didn't pay attention to it much since I didn't own Lynch the past two years but that was my understanding - I could definitely be wrong.
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Oct 22, 2015 21:23
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LmaoTheKid posted:Nope, Gurley is better than Lacy at this point. I'm also pretty thin at wodeout though. Other than A.J Green and Amari Cooper, my wideouts are Golden Tate, Sammy Watkins, and Davante Adams. League is set up with 3 wr spots 2 rb and no flex. I feel like Martin won't come close to that ridiculous performance he had the other week.
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Pops Mgee posted:I'm also pretty thin at wodeout though. Other than A.J Green and Amari Cooper, my wideouts are Golden Tate, Sammy Watkins, and Davante Adams. League is set up with 3 wr spots 2 rb and no flex. I feel like Martin won't come close to that ridiculous performance he had the other week. Whatever you do, don't trade Gurley, I'll leave the rest up to you. the kid is for real.
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Asked this earlier but it got missed - going forward and in weeks 15 - 17 especially, would you rather have: Eli and Demaryius Or Luck and Maclin I have Julio, Allen Robinson and John Brown too so can afford to downgrade WR slightly. Eli and Demaryius have been good but Demaryius has Peyton throwing to him who is bad now and always gets worse as it gets colder. Luck and Maclin have better playoff schedules. But is it worth it?
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Oct 22, 2015 21:38
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Spoeank posted:How many years in a row does CMike have to be a garbage man player before we give up on him Considering he has sat behind lynch, and never started a game, then one game should tell us a lot.
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Oct 22, 2015 21:42
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Career third stringer traded for nothing, hangs out on practice squad, thrust into another backup role/RBBC due to injury. Blow all your FAAB!
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Oct 22, 2015 21:46
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I just traded CJ Anderson for Eli Manning. I think I won this trade!
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Spoeank posted:Career third stringer traded for nothing, hangs out on practice squad, thrust into another backup role/RBBC due to injury. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy5rz1cft5w
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Oct 22, 2015 21:57
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dphi posted:From the way my Seahawk-fan friends talked about it, Turbin was 2nd on the depth chart but it'd be RBBC if Lynch went down (like the Asiata/McKinnon situation.) I didn't pay attention to it much since I didn't own Lynch the past two years but that was my understanding - I could definitely be wrong. That was the early thinking but when Lynch missed time, Turbin handled the workload
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Oct 22, 2015 21:58
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Oct 22, 2015 22:08
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MacheteZombie posted:How many points is Cassel going to score this week? Giants d is not good. Neither is Matt Cassel
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Oct 22, 2015 22:16
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Matt Cassel has me seein' double!
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Oh I don't plan to start him. On my 29 man roster I would like to hold EJ, Cassel, or Cousins, preference for the best of the lost, so my opponent will have no good qb options. I'm heartless.
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MacheteZombie posted:Oh I don't plan to start him. On my 29 man roster I would like to hold EJ, Cassel, or Cousins, preference for the best of the lost, so my opponent will have no good qb options. It looks like Tyrod is playing? So EJ would be the one to drop I guess.
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BigFactory posted:It looks like Tyrod is playing? So EJ would be the one to drop I guess. Rex Ryan said Tyrod Taylor (knee) and Sammy Watkins (ankle) will not play Week 7 against the Jaguars. Advice: E.J. Manuel will start at quarterback with Robert Woods and Chris Hogan as his primary receivers. Ryan said Taylor felt soreness in his knee after ramping up activity at practice Wednesday. With a bye week to rest, Taylor has a good shot to play Week 9 against the Dolphins.
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MacheteZombie posted:Rex Ryan said Tyrod Taylor (knee) and Sammy Watkins (ankle) will not play Week 7 against the Jaguars. Really putting on a show in London there, NFL.
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Marshmallow Blue posted:What's that have to do with the Chrcandick hype train? Knile Davis train sure. Coaches seemed to favor West over Davis the past few weeks and Davis hasn't looked as good with his (limited) touches in JC's absence. So last year Davis truly became the One Great Handcuff who would still give you near RB1 output and had RB1 opportunities/touches. Folks thought that was the same going into this year. A few weeks in and the coaches are raving over West, putting West ahead of Davis on unofficial depth charts, etc. In the few games JC's been gone, West has been getting more touches and better YPC (3.9 versus a dismal 2.5), but it's essentially turned into an RBBC until one of them does something decent and takes the job. Now that Maclin's gone for a bit, the only weapons out there are Kelce and... a bunch of young bucks in Conley and Wilson for WR and West and Davis for RB. And with Alex Smith at the helm the idea is the WR upside is limited. I mean at this point the only highlights IMHO on that team are Kelce and some IDP folks (Marcus Peters  ).
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Started this season with 3 NFL starting quarterbacks in a 16 team league, none of them shared a bye. Week 7: I no longer have a quarterback. Top waiver option is like Chase Daniel.
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Ok so here's a trade question. A team that I really want to win this week to take out a team ahead of me has McManus on bye. I'd trade him Josh Brown for McManus, but then I'd be out a kicker. So I'd want to do a 2 for 1, but I can't justify trading 2 guys for a kicker, can I? This is starting to get crazy but here's one option: C. West and J. Brown for McManus. OR J. Randle, S. Diggs and J. Brown for McManus and D Martin. This is all too stupid to think about right?
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BigFactory posted:Ok so here's a trade question. A team that I really want to win this week to take out a team ahead of me has McManus on bye. I'd trade him Josh Brown for McManus, but then I'd be out a kicker. So I'd want to do a 2 for 1, but I can't justify trading 2 guys for a kicker, can I? You're better off praying he wins without a kicker tbh. VietCampo fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Flipped John Brown and Stefon Diggs for Lamar Miller.  My RBs are now Miller, Shady, Hillman/Anderson, and my WRs are AB, TY, Martavis, Dez. You'd think one combination of those would have to work out okay.
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VietCampo posted:You're better off praying he wins without a kicker tbh. I'd love to help him this week but hurt him long term.
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BigFactory posted:I'd love to help him this week but hurt him long term. Making a trade that is disadvantageous to yourself specifically to help another team is the definition of collusion.
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Leperflesh posted:Making a trade that is disadvantageous to yourself specifically to help another team is the definition of collusion. But it wouldn't be disadvantageous to him if it helps him get better playoff seeding! It would be no different than trading for players on bye this week or for lesser players with better playoff match ups or whatever: hurt your team this week to improve it later.
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Leperflesh posted:Making a trade that is disadvantageous to yourself specifically to help another team is the definition of collusion. Every trade I've made this year has been disadvantageous almost immediately. See: freeman for hill week 2. But 1) no, that's not what collusion is. And 2) that's not what I'm even talking about. Read my post again maybe. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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Anyone hedging their bets on Landry Jones having an amazing full-game debut with Pittsburgh? I'm leaning toward Kaepernick tonight...but the thought of going with Landry Jones is there.
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BigFactory posted:Ok so here's a trade question. A team that I really want to win this week to take out a team ahead of me has McManus on bye. I'd trade him Josh Brown for McManus, but then I'd be out a kicker. So I'd want to do a 2 for 1, but I can't justify trading 2 guys for a kicker, can I? The second option gives you more of a smokescreen
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RVProfootballer posted:But it wouldn't be disadvantageous to him if it helps him get better playoff seeding! It would be no different than trading for players on bye this week or for lesser players with better playoff match ups or whatever: hurt your team this week to improve it later. BigFactory posted:Every trade I've made this year has been disadvantageous almost immediately. See: freeman for hill week 2. ESPN defines collusion: ESPN posted:B: Collusive transactions If you trade with another team intending to benefit that team without trying to improve your own position, that's collusion. NFL.com is even more specific: NFL.com posted:Collusion and Illegal Roster Moves You can't make a transaction intended to benefit one other team (the one you want to win that matchup) over a second other team (the one you want to lose that matchup). This article basically describes the scenario being discussed: fantasysportshero.com posted:Types of Fantasy Football Collusion I understand this isn't the most common form of collusion - where you directly help another team out, perhaps because the team owner is your friend or your boss - in order to help that team win. Instead, you're helping another team win in order to beat someone leading in the division, which you hope will improve your own chances of making the playoffs. It's still collusion, though. The default assumption in fantasy football is that every trade you make is intended to improve your own team, so that you will win more games. Helping a second party to beat a third party isn't allowed, even if that third party is a divisional or league rival. For the record, this is the only objectionable part: BigFactory posted:A team that I really want to win this week to take out a team ahead of me has McManus on bye. If you make a trade with the intention of grabbing a good kicker, fine; your trade decisions should be focused on that. Deliberately trying to benefit the other party in order to beat the team ahead of you isn't kosher, though. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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The trade would absolutely be improving my team long term. All that other stuff is foolish.
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