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Geight posted:It looks really boring and slow, and the announcer sounds like a speak n' spell. Dude, it's an alpha
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Doom 4 looks like a nice blend of Halo and Quake. Both of these games are a lot of fun, and honestly the video gave me a little bit of hope.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:58
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nexus6 posted:Dude, it's an alpha These days, alpha is just a fancy name for " pre-release demo". 
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Oct 22, 2015 16:58
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nexus6 posted:Dude, it's an alpha Yes, that is my opinion of the alpha.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:59
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RyokoTK posted:Doom 4 looks like a nice blend of Halo and Quake. Both of these games are a lot of fun, and honestly the video gave me a little bit of hope. I'm really hoping that there's at least some sort of switch or change-up from the techno stuff to a really good hell landscape. I mean, they've shown that off a bit, haven't they? Also, I'd love to see at least one redo of an old Doom or Doom 2 map  But I have to face facts... I have no idea when I'll be getting a new video card, so I'll probably play this years and years from now.
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Geight posted:Yes, that is my opinion of the alpha. My opinion is similar to your opinion (on the alpha (of DOOM(4)))
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I am also cautiously optimistic because I'm kind of encouraged by then not aping classic fps conventions. The last time I played a modern doom-style fps was Wrack and that didn't leave a good impression on me.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:28
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Geight posted:It looks really boring and slow, and the announcer sounds like a speak n' spell. Gordon. Freeman. Report. To. Laboratory. Five. For. rear end. Inspection.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:34
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Luigi Thirty posted:Gordon. Freeman. Report. To. Laboratory. Five. For. rear end. Inspection.  WOOP WOOP
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Luigi Thirty posted:Gordon. Freeman. Report. To. Laboratory. Five. For. rear end. Inspection.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:58
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Guillermus posted:Grognards can vomit blood. Doom(4?) is a different game than Doom and Doom 2, If Doom wanted to be a different game from Doom, it shouldn't have been called Doom.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Gordon. Freeman. Report. To. Laboratory. Five. For. rear end. Inspection. DOWN. IN. THE. HOLE. IS. FREEMAN. LET'S. GO. KICK! HIS! rear end! THEN. WE. WILL! KNOW! IF! WE! CAN! TANGO! YEAH!
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Oct 22, 2015 18:21
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Cat Mattress posted:If Doom wanted to be a different game from Doom, it shouldn't have been called Doom. why bother even making sequels at all
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Oct 22, 2015 18:25
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Cat Mattress posted:If Doom wanted to be a different game from Doom, it shouldn't have been called Doom. On the other hand there's only been two related Doom games, just like there's only been two related Quake games (2 and 4). iD isn't really known for things staying the same just because the name is.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:45
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And one of those Doom games was basically an expansion pack, instead of an actual new game.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:56
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RyokoTK posted:why bother even making sequels at all In theory, to signify that the new game will capitalize and expand on what made the prior game so good.
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It just annoys me that it's named Doom, without number or subtitle or anything else to distinguish it from the 1993 title.
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My favorite thing about Doom's legacy is how people have this assumption that the game is a bleeding-fast reflex shooter, when the game was designed such that you were expected to move like a tank and occasionally strafe. Doom is slow.
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Regarding game/sequel names, I feel this way with the Bioshock games. Is it the plasmids/tonics that are really keeping that name there? Like using them, having them change your dna, is a 'shock' to your biology/system? Is there a reason that these games needed to be called 'Bioshock' at all? I understand 'System Shock', but not this. Also, I'm trying to enjoy Infinite, but goddamn, does it feel like a mad-libbed version of Bioshock 1.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Regarding game/sequel names, I feel this way with the Bioshock games. Is it the plasmids/tonics that are really keeping that name there? Like using them, having them change your dna, is a 'shock' to your biology/system? Is there a reason that these games needed to be called 'Bioshock' at all? I understand 'System Shock', but not this. I need to find the troll post about how it's called bioshock because of the common combination of electricity and water, and bio = water. Have this in the meantime. 
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RyokoTK posted:Doom 4 looks like a nice blend of Halo and Quake. Both of these games are a lot of fun, and honestly the video gave me a little bit of hope. Feel the same. I really dig the demon powerup they got going on. Rupert Buttermilk posted:Regarding game/sequel names, I feel this way with the Bioshock games. Is it the plasmids/tonics that are really keeping that name there? Like using them, having them change your dna, is a 'shock' to your biology/system? Is there a reason that these games needed to be called 'Bioshock' at all? I understand 'System Shock', but not this. My advice is to stop. It doesn't really get much better after a point and it slides slowly into madness and frustration. The ghosts.  I'll admit I did enjoy the DLC were you get to play as 
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bioshock infinite is amazingly bad and made me miss bioshock 1 (and 2, which honestly had more improved gameplay in basically every way) having a lot of weapons at my disposal was fun, and taking that away only to replace it with a limited system where even basically every weapon sucked was horrible
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Personally, I'm waiting on the sequels Visual Shock, Speed Shock, Sound Shock and Now is Time to the 68000 Heart on Fire.
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nexus6 posted:Dude, it's an alpha Being discriminating is a good thing when people are trying to sell you something. Segmentation Fault posted:My favorite thing about Doom's legacy is how people have this assumption that the game is a bleeding-fast reflex shooter, when the game was designed such that you were expected to move like a tank and occasionally strafe. Doom is slow. koren fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Korendian Leader posted:while being indicative of what the finished product will be like. Being Alpha, this isn't necessarily true.
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Shadow Hog posted:TANGO! OH! YEAH! Is there an online generator for the HL announcer/grunts? I've had occasions in my life where I needed the voices.
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Commander Keenan posted:Is there an online generator for the HL announcer/grunts? I've had occasions in my life where I needed the voices. The goon version of Space Station 13 used to have all the Vox clips but they got re-recorded so they could have more words.
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Commander Keenan posted:Is there an online generator for the HL announcer/grunts? I've had occasions in my life where I needed the voices.
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Nintendo Kid posted:On the other hand there's only been two related Doom games, just like there's only been two related Quake games (2 and 4). Yes and the fact that Doom is a 1993 game and this one passed 22 years (23 if you count 2016 release) so is kind of hard to make it like the first unless you do a straight total conversion. Also, Quake Wars is kinda the precuel to Quake 2 too (Stroggs invading the earth).
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:bioshock infinite is amazingly bad and made me miss bioshock 1 (and 2, which honestly had more improved gameplay in basically every way) And Doom (4) looks very promising, though we haven't seen too much of the single player. What little we've seen seems Doomy enough to be a very respectable sequel. We have Cacodemons floating around, Revenants, run and gun gameplay, no modern cover malarkey etc, I'm pumped. I wouldn't judge it's Doomyness by the multiplayer, which is outsourced and not by id anyway. Though looks fun in it's own right. Also don't forget to get pumped for the Bombshell tie-in FPS shareware made on the Duke 3D engine (eduke32 version). (edit: Speaking of Bioshock and Doom, did you know a level designer from Bioshock recreated an area of the game as a Doom 2 level? Pretty cool http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/arcadia) Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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I can't stop playing System Shock send help. Also high five to any buddie chums buckarinos that like Bioshock 2. That game received undue shade when it imroved upon the original in every way. Like why the gently caress would you not let me use plasmids at the same time as regular weapons? Don't they just turn into other guns at this point? Fire gun. Bee gun. Okay, bee gun sounds cool but y'know what I'm sayin' 2 also took to the Doom school of design and, as you got more powerful, they simply sent larger numbers of guys at you, rather than just turning them into loving damage sponges. Also being a Big Daddy searching for his Little Sister was a much better concept to wrap the game around rather than 1's "System Shock 2 but slightly to the left."
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I can't stop playing System Shock send help.  The only real problem with Bioshock 2 was that it took the worst gimmick part of BS1 and made it a repeated piece of core mechanic. Also, the story wasn't as well-told, but meh.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I can't stop playing System Shock send help. Pretty much. Fatherhood/parenthood as the core strange identity was a refreshing thing. Didn't like the villain when she was going on about her political ideology, but her being "Mum" to your "Dad" and the clashes it made was much more compelling narrative then "Would You Kindly". Big Sisters were also terrifying combatants and a great example of "Boss Encounter As A Test of your Collected Skills/Understanding". Fighting two at once was damned satisfying at that. The hacking mini-game was much improved. The minor characters were fun. The guns were great. The magic powers were also pretty nice in the "offhand" instead of swapping out to them. It also had a pretty good story DLC with a nice twist and handled racism in a better, and much sinister creepy, way then Infinite.
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RyokoTK posted:why bother even making sequels at all Why indeed? Doom II, Final Doom, and /idgames/ already exist, the world does not need a Doom 4. E: I'm serious, Doom 4 should never have existed. Considering how Doom II and Final Doom are more like expansions than separate games, Doom is really a singular entity, a finished work, it stands by itself without need of sequels. There's really something to be said about a game that just stands on its own without having to be part of some big stupid franchise. Why can't Doom just be Doom? Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Honestly, the real issue is that SgtMarkIV already made the Doomiest Doom. id is completely outclassed.
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Shadow Hog posted:http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Ba0UNIryXo: http://www.sounds-resource.com/pc_computer/halflife/sound/1095/ Awesome. Awesome.
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GlitchThief posted:Honestly, the real issue is that SgtMarkIV already made the Doomiest Doom. id is completely outclassed. This is very true. Brutal Doom is pretty much Doom 2015 (or 2014, or whenever it came out). The new official Doom is just "id Shooter 2016... with demons!"
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Yeah I don't even like Brutal Doom and it's still way more creative and interesting than what I have seen of Doom 4
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Geight posted:Yeah I don't even like Brutal Doom and it's still way more creative and interesting than what I have seen of Doom 4 Well, the majority of the time in Brutal Doom you're playing in well designed levels (such as the original Doom levels), and you haven't really seen any of the Doom 4 levels... Woolie Wool posted:Why indeed? Doom II, Final Doom, and /idgames/ already exist, the world does not need a Doom 4. I never get this kind of thing. The two don't conflict with eachother, much like how Doom 3 didn't conflict with Doom 2. Id giving us a new take on Doom, and lots of fans giving us their take on Doom 2 maps, the more the merrier. And this even comes with that SnapMap thingy which could be fun. Though not a replacement for DoomBuilder by any means. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 23, 2015 |
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RyokoTK posted:why bother even making sequels at all "Doom" == "Doom" "Doom II" != "Doom"
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