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Parahexavoctal posted:You should read the Loony Leo issue of Astro City. How about The Coyote Gospel issue of Animal Man.
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Looney Leo worked a bit better, although both are excellent
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Oct 21, 2015 22:02
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Gavok posted:"BUZZ loving BUNNY, BITCH! IT'S loving EXTREME!!" Excuse me, that's clearly Ace Bunny, he does it all for the kids. All those happy boys...
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Oct 21, 2015 22:03
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    Uthor posted:How about The Coyote Gospel issue of Animal Man. quote:Many theologians see the Holocaust as the beginning of a theological practice called “theodicy.” 
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Oct 21, 2015 22:09
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Parahexavoctal posted:You should read the Loony Leo issue of Astro City. And this was, of course, after the dead, underaged prostitute was found in his hotel room.
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Oct 21, 2015 23:33
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Senior Woodchuck posted:And this was, of course, after the dead, underaged prostitute was found in his hotel room.
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Oct 21, 2015 23:38
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Gavok posted:I really think Kingdom Come Batman is my favorite incarnation of Batman. There's a lot to love about him, mainly in that he's finally embraced what he is and it's made him more upbeat. I also like how the whole "Batman doesn't kill!" thing is played with, not in the sense that he's killed bad guys, but in that he's become disturbingly and realistically complacent with murder happening around him. Someone blew up Arkham? Oh well, what are you going to do? I miss 1996 Mark Waid. Before he got hosed over by his girlfriend and becamse bitter and jaded. Sure he still writes great comics but he used to write magical comics. This is always my go-to for people who say Superman and Batman should kill because gently caress THAT, Superman and Batman do not loving kill. redbackground posted:The Kingdom Come Companion! I've been keeping an eye out for a physical copy for a long time without paying a whole lot for it. DC had the book pulled almost immediately so it's also a rarer find. Anyone even slightly interested in KC should get that. A lot of it was printed in the Absolute KC HC but owning the Comicsology Companion makes the book so much more enjoyable.
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Oct 21, 2015 23:44
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Fwiw he seems to be very happy in his current relationship.
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Gavok posted:I really think Kingdom Come Batman is my favorite incarnation of Batman. There's a lot to love about him, mainly in that he's finally embraced what he is and it's made him more upbeat. I also like how the whole "Batman doesn't kill!" thing is played with, not in the sense that he's killed bad guys, but in that he's become disturbingly and realistically complacent with murder happening around him. Someone blew up Arkham? Oh well, what are you going to do? That panel with J'onn broke my loving heart when I read KC for the first time. And I liked Batman showing some goddamn compassion to him.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:That panel with J'onn broke my loving heart when I read KC for the first time. And I liked Batman showing some goddamn compassion to him. yeah, it's a really neat touch seeing him be gentle with someone who actively needs it.
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Oct 22, 2015 05:30
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i understand the message of KC but i still think that there is literally nothing wrong or immoral about killing people like Joker though i'm not going to throw a tantrum about Batman not doing that it's would be completely against his character
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Oct 22, 2015 06:29
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RottenK posted:i understand the message of KC but i still think that there is literally nothing wrong or immoral about killing people like Joker Superman would have been fine if he was sentenced to death by a court. His problem was taking the law into their own hands.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:34
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Killing Joker to stop him from killing someone else or enacting some kinda evil plan is what law enforcement would do, but murdering a guy in handcuffs is another beast altogether.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:36
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It's kind of hilarious how much the cops in comic books put up with when you consider how murder-happy they are in real life. Wait, no, not hilarious. Really really sad.
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Oct 22, 2015 06:40
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That's why Spider-man cops are the most realistic to me. They just shoot at the hero all the time, no questions asked.
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Lurdiak posted:That's why Spider-man cops are the most realistic to me. They just shoot at the hero all the time, no questions asked. To be fair, who wouldn't shoot at a gigantic red and blue spider?
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Oct 22, 2015 12:32
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He's a menace! That nice moustached man on the news says so!
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FMguru posted:Hey, he was never convicted of anything. Well, no. She OD'd.
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Endless Mike posted:Fwiw he seems to be very happy in his current relationship. Maybe. His attitude doesn't seem very upbeat these days. It's hilarious that he denies the "Can we have the real Superman back" story that Byrne tells but then Man of Steel comes out and he won't shut the gently caress up about "NOT MY SUPERMAN."
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Oct 22, 2015 21:17
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Rhyno posted:Maybe. His attitude doesn't seem very upbeat these days. It's hilarious that he denies the "Can we have the real Superman back" story that Byrne tells but then Man of Steel comes out and he won't shut the gently caress up about "NOT MY SUPERMAN." If I remember correctly it's the killing that pisses him off.
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Oct 22, 2015 21:31
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bobkatt013 posted:If I remember correctly it's the killing that pisses him off. That was his focus yes but as I and many pointed out, Superman has killed in the comics when his hand was forced. And it lead to some amazing storytelling afterwards.
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bobkatt013 posted:If I remember correctly it's the killing that pisses him off. Which is super-upsetting because of all the reasons to dislike MoS the killing is waaaaaaaaaay down the list and acts like a lightning rod for people who want to dismiss any other criticism.
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Please let's not derail this thread with MoS Anyway, let's have a glimpse into Spider-Man's psyche. Spider-Man and the X-men #4     It is so, so, so good. It's made me willing to pick up Spidey comics again. It's like Sister Act in Spandex. And it also sends up the X-men for being terrible as a school (which they are). It's really uplifting and fun. Comics rock. You should read these comics. (e:Just realised it's probably a homage to #1 of Morrison's run on JLA)
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Oct 22, 2015 22:23
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Just when you thought Glob Herman couldn't get any better!
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Spidey's webs seem to have held up just as well as Glob...Milotic posted:It's made me willing to pick up Spidey comics again. Resist the urge...
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Uthor posted:Resist the urge... I've dipped my toe into one where he seems to be running a startup, with a Black Cat backup storyline. And it seems he was dating a really, really short woman, and I can't work out if it's art, or she's a dwarf. It's pretty fun though.   Amazing Spider-Man #17 2014. It kind of has this Saturday morning cartoon vibe to it, where there's a not-quite-evil coworker who wants to sabotage Peter's ideas.
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Oct 22, 2015 22:49
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Maybe it's just more editing, but the new Amazing volume is actually pretty good.
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wiegieman posted:Maybe it's just more editing, but the new Amazing volume is actually pretty good. Maybe Slott is back on whatever meds he was on when he wrote the Spider-man Human Torch mini-series.
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Oct 22, 2015 22:56
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Did the Kingdom Come conversation continue anywhere else? I was really enjoying that.
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Milotic posted:I've dipped my toe into one where he seems to be running a startup, with a Black Cat backup storyline. And it seems he was dating a really, really short woman, and I can't work out if it's art, or she's a dwarf. It's pretty fun though. She's a dwarf. And they're not dating. She was dating "Peter" when it was really Doc Ock in Peter's body. When Peter got his body back, they, obviously, broke up. But they are still working together and, last I read, trying to making it seem like a normal breakup to others (and not a "my fiance was really a super villain is Spider-Man's body and now Spider-Man is back and a different person" breakup). Peter also needs her because she's one of the few people who know what happened, so she can fill him in on things like, oh, why he owns a company now and who all his employees are and what they actually do there.
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Unmature posted:Did the Kingdom Come conversation continue anywhere else? I was really enjoying that. Just continue it here, I have the Absolute and that companion book here on my desk so I'm prepared.
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Uthor posted:She's a dwarf. And they're not dating. She was dating "Peter" when it was really Doc Ock in Peter's body. When Peter got his body back, they, obviously, broke up. But they are still working together and, last I read, trying to making it seem like a normal breakup to others (and not a "my fiance was really a super villain is Spider-Man's body and now Spider-Man is back and a different person" breakup). Peter also needs her because she's one of the few people who know what happened, so she can fill him in on things like, oh, why he owns a company now and who all his employees are and what they actually do there.
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Uthor posted:Peter also needs her because she's one of the few people who know what happened, so she can fill him in on things like, oh, why he owns a company now and who all his employees are and what they actually do there. You know, I love how they wrote this big, convoluted storyline in order to retcon away Peter and MJ's marriage so that Spider-Man would be "more relateable to the reader" and then within ten years of that, he's the head of a multinational corporation.
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Fuego Fish posted:You know, I love how they wrote this big, convoluted storyline in order to retcon away Peter and MJ's marriage so that Spider-Man would be "more relateable to the reader" and then within ten years of that, he's the head of a multinational corporation. Judging by the panels above (I haven't read the comics) there was also a period of time where his body was taken over by the mind of one of his enemies and that is why he can't date that woman. I can totally relate.
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Fuego Fish posted:You know, I love how they wrote this big, convoluted storyline in order to retcon away Peter and MJ's marriage so that Spider-Man would be "more relateable to the reader" and then within ten years of that, he's the head of a multinational corporation. I think after the MCU really started to take off and BND/ASM failed to set the world on fire Quesada's attention went elsewhere and signed off on whatever. Expect huge rubberbanding by the time the MCU Spidey is underway.
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drrockso20 posted:Kingdom Come is still one of my favorite comics, although over the years I've come to loathe how they resolved the plot by just killing off 99% of the metahuman population, just feels lazy to me, not to mention makes the whole "Resolving The Tensions Between Metahuman and Normal Humans" aspect of the ending feel really hollow, cause that becomes pretty easy to resolve when there's only about a dozen of them left I may be misremembering but I think the way Kingdom Come ended was a compromise between Waid's intended ending and Alex Ross's intended ending, which were completely incompatible with one another, so we got neither.
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do you remember what those endings were? I'd be interested.
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Madkal posted:Judging by the panels above (I haven't read the comics) there was also a period of time where his body was taken over by the mind of one of his enemies and that is why he can't date that woman. I can totally relate. It gets even better when you see pictures of Dan Slott alongside panels of Doc Ock. Totally not a self insert there Dan!
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Fuego Fish posted:You know, I love how they wrote this big, convoluted storyline in order to retcon away Peter and MJ's marriage so that Spider-Man would be "more relateable to the reader" and then within ten years of that, he's the head of a multinational corporation. I want to dunk Joe Quesada's head into a toilet.
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Rhyno posted:It gets even better when you see pictures of Dan Slott alongside panels of Doc Ock. Totally not a self insert there Dan! Tbf literally any fat, white, brown-haired dude can make a good Doc Ock. 
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