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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Are any mats selling for decent $ anymore? GTN prices for everything have plummeted.

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Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Alright, who do I talk to for getting my sith on with you nerds?

Emy
Apr 21, 2009

Magmarashi posted:

Alright, who do I talk to for getting my sith on with you nerds?

Whoever is online when you search for the guild That's No Goon on Jedi Covenant.

wtftastic
Jul 24, 2006

"In private, we will be mercifully free from the opinions of imbeciles and fools."

Medullah posted:

I did Inquisitor and it makes me a bit sad that they didn't do (Inquisitor and KOTFE story spoilers) any references to him having experience with ghosts in his head. I DID love that they called me Darth Imperious though. I chose light side and released the ghosts are the end of his story, I imagine if I'd done dark side and kept them Valykorian might be a bit crowded in my head

drat it, I was so hoping I'd play it on Adonnta and she's be bickering with too loving many Force ghosts. Still gunna do it, I think.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
" They also have a purple display name in your Mission Log. Additional Missions on the critical path will retain the classic gold triangle icon and Mission log text."

So just to clarify that, exploration missions are complete garbage, avoid, gold missions MAY be ok, but are probably poo poo, purple missions are all I need to level up.

Right?

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


ShineDog posted:

" They also have a purple display name in your Mission Log. Additional Missions on the critical path will retain the classic gold triangle icon and Mission log text."

So just to clarify that, exploration missions are complete garbage, avoid, gold missions MAY be ok, but are probably poo poo, purple missions are all I need to level up.

Right?

Purple missions are the ones most pertinent to the capital S storyline, if you do all the missions on a planet you'll still be getting a lot of exp and cash but if you do just the story ones you'll always be at level for the next part of the story

vanbags
Dec 6, 2003

An ape.
As a DPS Juggernaut in PvP, is there any reason to ever equip a Shield over a Focus? Is stance dancing a thing in this game?

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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vanbags posted:

As a DPS Juggernaut in PvP, is there any reason to ever equip a Shield over a Focus? Is stance dancing a thing in this game?

You mean speccing DPS but using tank gear and stance? Don't do that, you'll end up doing lovely damage while also being a lovely damage sponge. You'd lose out on all your passive bonuses while not having any of the tank ones to make you not die.

vanbags
Dec 6, 2003

An ape.

Fuzz posted:

You mean speccing DPS but using tank gear and stance? Don't do that, you'll end up doing lovely damage while also being a lovely damage sponge. You'd lose out on all your passive bonuses while not having any of the tank ones to make you not die.
No, I mean speccing DPS and using DPS gear, but equipping a Shield for swapping to defensive stance when shits get hairy. Or is your shield rating going to be so poo poo from the DPS gear that it won't matter that you're wearing a Focus?

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

vanbags posted:

No, I mean speccing DPS and using DPS gear, but equipping a Shield for swapping to defensive stance when shits get hairy. Or is your shield rating going to be so poo poo from the DPS gear that it won't matter that you're wearing a Focus?

You have enough defensive cool downs as a Juggernaut that it shouldn't matter. If you're copping too much damage in Juyo form, suggest switching spec so that you're in Shii-Cho and doing sick burst damage instead.

PsycheNotFound
Sep 30, 2015

by Lowtax

Spikeguy posted:

Great. I am one of those lowly folks who wants to play the game by themselves. I used to dream of maybe one day when the servers get shutdown, they just convert the game to a singleplayer thing as a farewell. But if they make leveling easier, me able to make every companion a heal bot and enemies less of bullet spunges then it sounds like I'll be playing more.

With the change of companion gear only being about aesthetics rather than stats, and the changes allowing companions to be tank, dps, or healing, it's exactly the way you want it to play out right now. Previous to this, even my healing companions were fairly terrible at keeping my squishy Sentinel/Marauder rear end alive let alone keep themselves alive, but now they're tanky and can keep me topped off at 100% all the time. It's fantastic.

It's the perfect time to give this a go and enjoy the stories. Jump in and revel in the dark side (or passively contemplate the light side, if that's your sort of thing).

Kinger
Sep 30, 2003

I'm sick of my head doing things.

ShineDog posted:

" They also have a purple display name in your Mission Log. Additional Missions on the critical path will retain the classic gold triangle icon and Mission log text."

So just to clarify that, exploration missions are complete garbage, avoid, gold missions MAY be ok, but are probably poo poo, purple missions are all I need to level up.

Right?

From what I've seen, pretty much every mission grants the same amount (or at least, a similar amount) of experience. So exploration missions aren't garbage, it's just that the curve has been adjusted so you don't have to do them.

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

vanbags posted:

No, I mean speccing DPS and using DPS gear, but equipping a Shield for swapping to defensive stance when shits get hairy. Or is your shield rating going to be so poo poo from the DPS gear that it won't matter that you're wearing a Focus?

The main thing about switching to Tank Stance while specced DPS is that it gives you access to Guard. 50% damage reduction is huge and can single-handedly turn the tide of a close battle in a pinch. No need to swap in a shield since redirected damage can't be shielded anyways.

Being specced DPS and swapping out to Tank gear and stance is definitely a strategy in Solo Ranked where matchmaking exists. I used it to great effect last season to become the third highest Ranked player in the world at one point. PT's (what I used) are much better suited for it though since they don't rely on procs the way Sins and Juggs do however.

Speccing Tank while using a shield and otherwise DPS gear is viable in regs as well. Gear is cheap so experimenting is easy enough.


SKY COQ posted:

You have enough defensive cool downs as a Juggernaut that it shouldn't matter. If you're copping too much damage in Juyo form, suggest switching spec so that you're in Shii-Cho and doing sick burst damage instead.

Rage has way less survivability than Vengeance so I'm not sure why this would be a strategy.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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ShineDog posted:

" They also have a purple display name in your Mission Log. Additional Missions on the critical path will retain the classic gold triangle icon and Mission log text."

So just to clarify that, exploration missions are complete garbage, avoid, gold missions MAY be ok, but are probably poo poo, purple missions are all I need to level up.

Right?

They're garbage in the sense that they are mindless generic MMO quests with little to no character interaction, yes.

Beeme
Oct 7, 2013

Eimi posted:

If playing a LS Jedi was anywhere near as engaging as LS war, I'd have never dared try Imp side. (This is before I joined up with TNG) Honestly LS War is the good guy story I wanted in a Star Wars game and it did everything I wanted from a typical Jedi story, better than the Jedi.

Basically sure the Republic might be 'objectively' the good guy, but you don't feel like a good guy playing. Meanwhile being a good guy on the Imperial side is way more rewarding and engaging. :colbert:

The republic storylines seem to expect you to be good, so by going light side you're just doing what's expected of you, while if you go dark side, everyone will be baffled as to why you're being a jerk, including most of your companions, and no one will like you.

While in the empire you're expected to be bad, so if you go light side there's the feeling that you're going against the grain and doing your own thing, while if you go dark side, you're not punished since everyone expects you to be a dick, and there's plenty of companions that root for you as you electrocute dudes.

Hulk Smash!
Jul 14, 2004

Has anyone been able to find what crafting skills each insta-60 class gets?

In the stream BH merc got 500 in Armormech, Scavenging and Underworld Trading.

I'm curious as to which class gets what skill.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Some of the side missions are interestingly written, though like, only a slim handful will ever get referenced after doing them. The good ones will usually provide some insight into what going on in the area while the bad ones are like the one where a sith pulls my LS BH aside and goes, "you! Alien! Help me blow up this hospital full of sick orphans!"

the panacea
May 10, 2008

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Hulk Smash! posted:

Has anyone been able to find what crafting skills each insta-60 class gets?

In the stream BH merc got 500 in Armormech, Scavenging and Underworld Trading.

I'm curious as to which class gets what skill.

Inquisitor gets synthweave.

vanbags
Dec 6, 2003

An ape.
Are companions just as insane at max level as they are while leveling? I haven't used a defensive cooldown since Tuesday. I just faceroll through all leveling content and I'm wondering if it balances out at 65 or did they actually just intend for you to be invincible with a companion?

parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

Hulk Smash! posted:

Has anyone been able to find what crafting skills each insta-60 class gets?

In the stream BH merc got 500 in Armormech, Scavenging and Underworld Trading.

I'm curious as to which class gets what skill.

Per the SWTOR help, force classes get Synthweaving, Archaeology, and Underworld Trading. Tech classes get Armormech, Scavenging, and Underworld Trading.

Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


Is Temple of sacrifice easier than when it was released?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Beeme posted:

The republic storylines seem to expect you to be good, so by going light side you're just doing what's expected of you, while if you go dark side, everyone will be baffled as to why you're being a jerk, including most of your companions, and no one will like you.

While in the empire you're expected to be bad, so if you go light side there's the feeling that you're going against the grain and doing your own thing, while if you go dark side, you're not punished since everyone expects you to be a dick, and there's plenty of companions that root for you as you electrocute dudes.

Yeah but hell take Mass Effect. You are expected to be a good guy there too, and when you are its engaging as well. BW can totally make just general good guy fun and engaging, poo poo that's their formula so far. It's so odd to me how they dropped the ball pub side.

As for JK vs SW that's more specific in how the stories are set up. JK you are the chosen one super fast and you just go run around doing chosen one things. You are never a padawan, you never even really know your master. You never learn about the Force, the most interesting part of Star Wars. Hell SW Tatooine is all about learning about the Force and meeting a master Yoda type Jedi. If you're DS you just kill him, but if you're LS you learn from him some too. It's great. There's none of that earning your power JK side, its just crisis after crisis, showing how the Republic is really dumb because all their poo poo keeps getting used against them.

Also personally the fem JK voice does not work at all until SoR content where she sort of gets a handle on the character.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I think I made a mistake by kneeling on a non-evil character. Valkorian acted like I agreed to some sort of lofty ambition by doing so for most of the game when really it was just to save my own rear end, although I did use his power when it was offered in order to even the odds...hm.

Hulk Smash!
Jul 14, 2004

parasyte posted:

Per the SWTOR help, force classes get Synthweaving, Archaeology, and Underworld Trading. Tech classes get Armormech, Scavenging, and Underworld Trading.

Huh. drat, I was hoping to maybe use my insta 60 to get Cybertech at 500 on an imperial character. I have it on an alt that I never play pub side.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Eimi posted:

Also personally the fem JK voice does not work at all until SoR content where she sort of gets a handle on the character.

The female JK voice is solid if you play her as kind of an impatient jerk. The goody-two-shoes lines don't work well but everything else is entertaining.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Dick Trauma posted:

The female JK voice is solid if you play her as kind of an impatient jerk. The goody-two-shoes lines don't work well but everything else is entertaining.

For me its more just how young she sounds. Bothers me for some reason. I mean I guess the SW is supposed to be young too, but I prefer how commanding and experienced she sounds.

Beeme
Oct 7, 2013

Eimi posted:

Yeah but hell take Mass Effect. You are expected to be a good guy there too, and when you are its engaging as well. BW can totally make just general good guy fun and engaging, poo poo that's their formula so far. It's so odd to me how they dropped the ball pub side.

As for JK vs SW that's more specific in how the stories are set up. JK you are the chosen one super fast and you just go run around doing chosen one things. You are never a padawan, you never even really know your master. You never learn about the Force, the most interesting part of Star Wars. Hell SW Tatooine is all about learning about the Force and meeting a master Yoda type Jedi. If you're DS you just kill him, but if you're LS you learn from him some too. It's great. There's none of that earning your power JK side, its just crisis after crisis, showing how the Republic is really dumb because all their poo poo keeps getting used against them.

Also personally the fem JK voice does not work at all until SoR content where she sort of gets a handle on the character.

Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't manage to get very far with JK. I tried being evil and being good and enjoyed neither. I think I may have been too hung up on the choice of alignment to notice the issues with the storyline. I'm nearing the end with a mostly DS fem SW, and enjoying it very much.

I'll probably start a Consular after I'm done with the SW and see how that goes.

Eimi posted:

For me its more just how young she sounds. Bothers me for some reason. I mean I guess the SW is supposed to be young too, but I prefer how commanding and experienced she sounds.

It's the vocal fry. I really like it too.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Ahhhahahaha

If you use Valkorian's power twice before Chapter 8 in your fight with Arcann, if you refuse he says "Too bad" and takes control of you anyway.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also I queued for a tactical flashpoint, wondering what sort of updated group experience I would get. Would I get Directive 7? Maybe the False Emperor?

Kuat loving Drive Yards

Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

Also I queued for a tactical flashpoint, wondering what sort of updated group experience I would get. Would I get Directive 7? Maybe the False Emperor?

Kuat loving Drive Yards

I take 9 months off, and people are even worse at Kuat. I had to explain the trooper mechanics to a bunch of scruffy nerf-herders :( Also loads of "Why would they put 4 dps together?" :doh:

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
What happens if you kneel? The streams only showed refusing, and I'm certainly not going to kneel on my character since I'm always a goody two-shoes in this game.

EDIT: Like in the immediate aftermath in chapters 1-3, not long-term.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Empress Theonora posted:

What happens if you kneel? The streams only showed refusing, and I'm certainly not going to kneel on my character since I'm always a goody two-shoes in this game.

EDIT: Like in the immediate aftermath in chapters 1-3, not long-term.

I haven't done this myself but my understanding is he is very happy with you, bringing you into his plan and giving you his power. You seem to be being groomed to be the next Zakuul Emperor. I don't know any specifics beyond that however. I didn't kneel, and I refused his power at every chance, so no idea what happens if you give in either.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Empress Theonora posted:

What happens if you kneel? The streams only showed refusing, and I'm certainly not going to kneel on my character since I'm always a goody two-shoes in this game.

EDIT: Like in the immediate aftermath in chapters 1-3, not long-term.

The only real effect from kneeling alone is you get some more cooperative dialogue options with him.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

The only real effect from kneeling alone is you get some more cooperative dialogue options with him.

How is he killed if you kneel?

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009
So, uh, I went into a Solo Flashpoint (Taral V) at just into 56.. came out just shy of 58.

Seems.. interesting.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Aphrodite posted:

How is he killed if you kneel?

He starts to use his "plant myself in your body :spergin:" spell on you and Arcann sabers him in the back while he's distracted.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Long term I suspect that when he inevitably takes over your body he's gonna tell everyone "lol your hero willingly kneeled to me :smuggo:"

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
So, for anyone leveling up a new character, a warning: If a quest sends you back to an earlier location, the instanced stuff will also be downleveled to the current planet; I just did Qyzen's companion quests, and the instanced area for the last one on Taris had all the mobs at level 22.

...This may imply hilarious results when you have to go back to Korriban for a fight as a sith.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Baron Porkface posted:

Is Temple of sacrifice easier than when it was released?

I just cleared it with eight pugs, having never done a raid before and three other people who hadn't played that one. We wiped like four times to the commanders but other than that it was pretty smooth sailing.

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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

StashAugustine posted:

I just cleared it with eight pugs, having never done a raid before and three other people who hadn't played that one. We wiped like four times to the commanders but other than that it was pretty smooth sailing.

...you got past Underlurker but wiped on Commanders?

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