Working in IT 3.0: xp_cmdshell

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MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

Erwin posted:

IPv6 eliminates the need for NAT, but not firewalls. Just make sure your cybertoilet is behind a quality home firewall. Hopefully one will exist by then.

Apple already supports the minimal protection NAT provides:

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frogbert: Jun 2, 2007

Walked posted:

I explored this briefly, but unless it's hidden in the pbk file somewhere, it doesn't appear the PSK is saved in there? Otherwise this is the simplest option by far. Nowhere inside it do I see a PSK, Secret, or encrypted string of any sort.

But hopefully I'm just missing it...

Yeah I don't think you're able to deploy a PSK that way, given it's probably a glaring security issue.

Do you have the option of just requiring a users windows login credentials? That way they can enter their own details the first time they use the VPN and you don't require a PSK.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 02:45

Walked: Apr 14, 2003

frogbert posted:

Yeah I don't think you're able to deploy a PSK that way, given it's probably a glaring security issue.

Do you have the option of just requiring a users windows login credentials? That way they can enter their own details the first time they use the VPN and you don't require a PSK.

Not an option with Meraki. It looks like I'm going to go the route of using my own application. Kinda frustrating that Meraki has mediocre deployment options for their VPN. Note: it's a PSK plus user/pass auth

# ? Oct 23, 2015 02:49

frogbert: Jun 2, 2007

Walked posted:

Not an option with Meraki. It looks like I'm going to go the route of using my own application. Kinda frustrating that Meraki has mediocre deployment options for their VPN. Note: it's a PSK plus user/pass auth

I've been told you can potentially use the Connection Manager Administration Kit:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753977(v=ws.10).aspx

# ? Oct 23, 2015 04:04

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

MrMoo posted:

Apple already supports the minimal protection NAT provides:

So what you are saying is that my toilet should be running OS X?

Why not linux tho, I can just write up my own lovely protocols.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 04:05

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

RFC2324 posted:

Why not linux tho, I can just write up my own lovely protocols.

The secret is to pipe the poo poo to /dev/null

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Collateral Damage: Jun 13, 2009

A Linux toilet would post your poo poo to github.

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FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Collateral Damage posted:

A Linux toilet would post your poo poo to github.

So the usual?

# ? Oct 23, 2015 13:27

3 Action Economist: May 22, 2002; Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

mewse posted:

What if I find nudes in my CEO's My Pictures folder

More importantly, what do I do if I find my nudes in the CEO's My Pictures folder? :ohdear:

# ? Oct 23, 2015 13:28

GreenNight: Feb 19, 2006; Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I hate our HR department. My boss has been fighting to get me a raise. Now don't get me wrong, I make out OK but I've gotten added responsibilities that I didn't have a few years ago when I was made Network Administrator. HR said "here is the average salary for that position in this state and he is making more than average so no raise". The work responsibility for my title is so loving broad, and they can't find a new title that summarizes what I do. So my boss has been going to all the local consulting companies that we work with and is like "if you hired GreenNight, what would be his starting salary". Now some of these companies would hire me in a second, and they told him about 20k more than I make now, to start. We'll see if HR bites, but what a load of poo poo. I love my job and I rarely ever work more than 40 hours, so it would be extremely difficult to ever leave.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 13:42

Sheep: Jul 24, 2003

Could be worse, the top brass at my company decided my salary by asking what some buddy of the CEO thought I should make based solely upon my (grossly inaccurate) job title, so there wasn't even anyone looking at things like market averages or anything, just what some random person who doesn't even work for us and has no idea what I do thought I should make.

I consider myself lucky though as that's really my only qualm with this job.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 13:57

Erwin: Feb 17, 2006

Sheep posted:

Could be worse, the top brass at my company decided my salary by asking what some buddy of the CEO thought I should make based solely upon my (grossly inaccurate) job title, so there wasn't even anyone looking at things like market averages or anything, just what some random person who doesn't even work for us and has no idea what I do thought I should make.

I consider myself lucky though as that's really my only qualm with this job.

Your only qualm with your career is that you're not paid fairly?

RFC2324 posted:

Why not linux tho, I can just write up my own lovely protocols.

Well, flushing wouldn't make any sound.

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Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Colonial Air Force posted:

More importantly, what do I do if I find my nudes in the CEO's My Pictures folder?

# ? Oct 23, 2015 17:27

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

feedmegin posted:

That was 1919, fellow history degree haver

It was a joke. I'm allowed +-1 year on history jokes. :argh:

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MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

How long do you let a fellow sys admin hit his head against a problem before you tell him where to look?

If you like him?

If you don't?

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Erwin: Feb 17, 2006

You help him immediately either way because you're on a team, not competing against each other.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:20

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

How long do you let a fellow sys admin hit his head against a problem before you tell him where to look?

If you like him?

If you don't?

You ask weird questions about dealing with other humans, man.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:22

captkirk: Feb 5, 2010

Erwin posted:

You help him immediately either way because you're on a team, not competing against each other.

I would say it depends. If you decide to swoop in and help someone every time they hit a road block you've just made yourself the personal bitch of the lowest common denominator of your team.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:25

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

How long do you let a fellow sys admin hit his head against a problem before you tell him where to look?

If you like him?

If you don't?

depends on:
1. how much they want the help
2. how much they need the help

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:37

Proteus Jones: Feb 28, 2013

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

How long do you let a fellow sys admin hit his head against a problem before you tell him where to look?

If you like him?

If you don't?

Leave bread crumbs in the form of Post It notes left in strategic locations like the world's lamest AR game. If you like him.

If you don't, enjoy the meltdown and subsequent enlightenment he will find in the comforting embrace of Google Search.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:42

Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

How long do you let a fellow sys admin hit his head against a problem before you tell him where to look?

If you like him?

If you don't?

It's definitely a balance. If you always help they'll never learn.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 18:47

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

Inspector_666 posted:

You ask weird questions about dealing with other humans, man.

The hell else is this thread about? Hi guys I'd like a job should I do this thing which improves my resume?

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:00

Methanar: Sep 26, 2013; by the sex ghost

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

The hell else is this thread about? Hi guys I'd like a job should I do this thing which improves my resume?

Discussing the toilet-computer-butt relationship of the future.

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CloFan: Nov 6, 2004

send him snarky LMGTFY links

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:16

Gothmog1065: May 14, 2009

Non human question~!

I'm trying to set up some sort of script to set up an incredibly long and boring scanner install. I can't find any configs to copy or any arguments to use on the command line. I'm debating writing a Python script, but before I get into it, does anyone know of an easier way?

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mewse: May 2, 2006

Gothmog1065 posted:

Non human question~!

I'm trying to set up some sort of script to set up an incredibly long and boring scanner install. I can't find any configs to copy or any arguments to use on the command line. I'm debating writing a Python script, but before I get into it, does anyone know of an easier way?

If the installer is non-standard and doesn't accept command line arguments for silent install, use AutoIt

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:25

crunk dork: Jan 15, 2006

Gothmog1065 posted:

Non human question~!

I'm trying to set up some sort of script to set up an incredibly long and boring scanner install. I can't find any configs to copy or any arguments to use on the command line. I'm debating writing a Python script, but before I get into it, does anyone know of an easier way?

Some kind of screen macro recorder? WMIC 'maybe?? :shrug:

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:26

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

The hell else is this thread about? Hi guys I'd like a job should I do this thing which improves my resume?

I mean the way you ask them more than the content. Like, if somebody is struggling with something, help them out with it.

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

Gothmog1065 posted:

Non human question~!

I'm trying to set up some sort of script to set up an incredibly long and boring scanner install. I can't find any configs to copy or any arguments to use on the command line. I'm debating writing a Python script, but before I get into it, does anyone know of an easier way?

Sometimes you can break open an exe with Microsofts Orca tool and get a peek inside to look at install and command arguments. Or there are packaging apps you can use where you start the app, run the installer, and then stop the app. The packaging app then tries to record any steps, dll file changes, etc that were made. These aren't very reliable but sometimes they can work. If you go this route try to do it on a computer thats just been imaged.

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evol262: Nov 30, 2010; #!/usr/bin/perl

Autoit works. Or it's trivial to get HWND then get a handle to buttons (and press them) with any win32 api.

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Gothmog1065: May 14, 2009

Thanks guys. I'll start with AutoIT and go from there.

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AlternateAccount: Apr 25, 2005; FYGM

Ugh, I really don't think I want to work for a company that uses those loving stupid personality surveys.

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chocolateTHUNDER: Jul 19, 2008; GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Are there any other sites that I should be looking at for job openings besides Indeed and DICE?

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Are there any other sites that I should be looking at for job openings besides Indeed and DICE?

usajobs.gov for some government positions. Make sure you have a linkedin so you can get some offers from recruiters as well.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 22:08

chocolateTHUNDER: Jul 19, 2008; GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

BaseballPCHiker posted:

usajobs.gov for some government positions. Make sure you have a linkedin so you can get some offers from recruiters as well.

LinkedIn, I forgot about that. Guess it's time to finally make one...

# ? Oct 23, 2015 22:11

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Inspector_666 posted:

I mean the way you ask them more than the content. Like, if somebody is struggling with something, help them out with it.

There's a balance to strike. You can't spend all day swooping in to help people out because you have your own poo poo to do. If they are making the same mistakes repeatedly after being shown or pointed in the right direction then I think it's quite fair to just leave them to it.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 23:21

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Thanks Ants posted:

There's a balance to strike. You can't spend all day swooping in to help people out because you have your own poo poo to do. If they are making the same mistakes repeatedly after being shown or pointed in the right direction then I think it's quite fair to just leave them to it.

I figure if you even know somebody else is struggling with something it's because they've asked for help or they're actively breaking stuff that you're noticing.

In either case you should probably help them out. I'm not saying you take over the process, but neither was MCFS, he asked if he should point them in the right direction or not.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 23:25

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

sometimes you have to let people figure poo poo out on their own.

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Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

adorai posted:

sometimes you have to let people figure poo poo out on their own.

Seconded. Unless someone is about to make a huge mistake, let the gears turn.

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Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

AlternateAccount posted:

Ugh, I really don't think I want to work for a company that uses those loving stupid personality surveys.

With all the attention that's been paid to the autism spectrum lately, I can't believe these things haven't fallen under more ADA scrutiny.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 00:34

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