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Rhymenoserous posted:Quoting a post from five days prior like a champ. I feel that if massive iron battering ram heads were a thing, there would be some left around?
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 01:42 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 13:17 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:And that sailor... was Big
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 01:53 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:While we're at it, why on Earth did the British of all people name an AFV after Saladin? It's like the Argentines naming a tank after Hindenburg or something. Saladin and Saracens were actually masively romanticised over here as 'noble enemies' for a long time. With Saladin it was already a thing in contemporary chronicles, what with the reported mutual respect between Richard and Saladin. I'm not sure when it got somewhat extended to the Saracens too but, for example, there's a big Rugby club in London called the Saracens.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 03:31 |
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gently caress, the US had helicopters called Apache and Chinook and I'm not sure you need the mythology of the noble savage to explain that. Sometimes a name is just a name.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 03:35 |
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I'm looking for good personal accounts of Stalingrad, or similar eastern front battles. Not so much for history or tactics, I just want to hear people's subjective experiences of being in a totally hosed place ruled by screaming death machines, or what it was like if it wasn't really like that.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 04:25 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:gently caress, the US had helicopters called Apache and Chinook and I'm not sure you need the mythology of the noble savage to explain that. Sometimes a name is just a name. So it's more grabbing a name out of the nation's history than anything else?
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 04:26 |
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swamp waste posted:I'm looking for good personal accounts of Stalingrad, or similar eastern front battles. Not so much for history or tactics, I just want to hear people's subjective experiences of being in a totally hosed place ruled by screaming death machines, or what it was like if it wasn't really like that. If you want a Soviet view of the Eastern Front that's very readable and taken from a lot of memoirs etc. check out Ivan's War. Someone will surely post that website with all the interviews with soviet soldiers in a bit too.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 04:31 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:If you want a Soviet view of the Eastern Front that's very readable and taken from a lot of memoirs etc. check out Ivan's War. It's not just Soviet soldiers, iremember has an "enemies and allies" sections too. http://iremember.ru/en/
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 04:33 |
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swamp waste posted:I'm looking for good personal accounts of Stalingrad, or similar eastern front battles. Not so much for history or tactics, I just want to hear people's subjective experiences of being in a totally hosed place ruled by screaming death machines, or what it was like if it wasn't really like that. Can you read German? Im Kessel by Carl Schüddekopf tells of personal accounts from the German side of the Battle of Stalingrad. Its pretty horrifying. http://www.amazon.de/Im-Kessel-Erz%C3%A4hlen-von-Stalingrad/dp/3492240321/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1445746486&sr=1-1
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 05:15 |
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:And that sailor... was Big Boss. Uh uh it was The Boss who was active in WWII
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 05:39 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:So it's more grabbing a name out of the nation's history than anything else? Notice that they're never named after nations/peoples who just flipped over and died. The Russians have an MG named Pecheneg, for one. It's always about fierce martial people the military defeated in the past. That's why there's no Alvis Frenchman EDIT: Oh, and the most fun of naming conventions is the C-tanks. Crusader, Churchill, Cromwell, Comet, Centurion, Chieftain, Challenger. Matilda and Valentine stand out!
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 07:44 |
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JcDent posted:Notice that they're never named after nations/peoples who just flipped over and died. The Russians have an MG named Pecheneg, for one. It's always about fierce martial people the military defeated in the past. There is actually a bit of a debate in Germany whether the replacement of the Leopard II should be called Leopard III or Löwe. The issue with naming tanks after big cats is that at some point you run out of names, and no one is going to be intimidated by a tank called a Weasel.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 14:57 |
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100 Years Ago I'm sick of stories about the Serbians being driven back and the Italians bashing their brains out, so I've declared today BEF Storytime Day. So instead, let's have some heart-warming tales of a New Army man having a bang-gently caress on parade (much less fun than it sounds), a cavalryman going up the line at Loos to find that there's still some dead from the battle there, a Cameron Highlander going out into No Man's Land on a listening patrol and finding plenty of, ahem, natural camouflage, and a wet and grumpy quartermaster-sergeant at Ypres. Louis Barthas is still suffering under Captain Cros-Mayrevielle's obsession with rules on a route-match, and a Northumberland Hussar provides us with a pithy sentiment to round things off.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 15:15 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:It's not just Soviet soldiers, iremember has an "enemies and allies" sections too. http://iremember.ru/en/ I can't seem to be shown any of the enemies/ally accounts in English. Have they not been translated, or am I doing something wrong?
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 15:23 |
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ArchangeI posted:There is actually a bit of a debate in Germany whether the replacement of the Leopard II should be called Leopard III or Löwe. The issue with naming tanks after big cats is that at some point you run out of names, and no one is going to be intimidated by a tank called a Weasel. Weasels are scrappy little motherfuckers dude.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 15:46 |
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Also the noun "Weisel" is already in use.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 15:51 |
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ArchangeI posted:There is actually a bit of a debate in Germany whether the replacement of the Leopard II should be called Leopard III or Löwe. The issue with naming tanks after big cats is that at some point you run out of names, and no one is going to be intimidated by a tank called a Weasel. Germans already have armored vehicles named after rodents.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 15:57 |
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Ferdinand is the best German AFV name, no competition.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 16:13 |
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Holy poo poo, everyone read the one about the Borie. A US destroy rammed a Uboat, but a wave came up at the last minute and laid the destroyer on top of the sub. The destroyer can't depress its guns enough to shoot the sub (because it is still sitting on top of it), while the subs deck gun was knocked out. The crews shoot at each other with small arms fire. There needs to be a movie about this. quote:In the extended and bitter fighting that ensued, dozens of German sailors were killed in desperate attempts to keep their machine guns manned. As each man emerged from the hatch and ran toward the guns, he was illuminated by Borie's spotlight and met by a hail of gunfire. Borie's resourceful crew engaged the enemy with whatever was at hand: Tommy guns, rifles, pistols, shotguns intended for riot control, and even a Very pistol. Borie's executive officer and a signalman fired effectively from the bridge with Tommy guns throughout the fight. One German sailor was hit in the chest with a Very flare.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 16:40 |
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Tias posted:I can't seem to be shown any of the enemies/ally accounts in English. Have they not been translated, or am I doing something wrong? Huh, that's weird, I guess there is no English section for those.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 16:59 |
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ArchangeI posted:There is actually a bit of a debate in Germany whether the replacement of the Leopard II should be called Leopard III or Löwe. The issue with naming tanks after big cats is that at some point you run out of names, and no one is going to be intimidated by a tank called a Weasel. But before that happened they'd have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cat species and we'd get tanks called Ozelot and Luchs and the like.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 18:54 |
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Just steal a page from Apple and call it the Snow Leopard or the Clouded Leopard or something.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 18:57 |
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Säbelzahntiger! Edit : Waschbär is also acceptable if we wanna stray from kitties. Really, random woodland creatures is something I'd be fine with : fear the Schtachelschwein. Xiahou Dun fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:But before that happened they'd have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for cat species and we'd get tanks called Ozelot and Luchs and the like. Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:07 |
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Nebelparder has quite the ring to it.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:08 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Edit : Waschbär is also acceptable if we wanna stray from kitties. If you want to abide by precedents then surely all types of bear names should be reserved for heavy bunker buster type vehicles? Speaking of pigs, there needs to be an amphibious APC called Meerschweinchen.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:11 |
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Hogge Wild posted:
Also Spähpanzer Luchs.
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Hogge Wild posted:
Panzer IIs are actually the perfect height for use as a cooking implement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnaHD2xt5sE
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:21 |
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Hogge Wild posted:Germans already have armored vehicles named after rodents. Mustelids mother fucker.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:27 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:Schneider (Tigers in Normandy), Zaloga (Armoured Champion) and Carius himself (Heroes de Guerra interview) all discuss falsification of German kill claims. Also keep in mind that some people are dense fuckers, and the best you can do is damage control when they poo poo on your doorstep. Found something worthwhile about dumbness in history: IbnKhaldun posted:Untruth naturally afflicts historical information. There are various reasonsthat make this unavoidable. One of them is partisanship for opinions and schools. Ifthe soul is impartial in receiving information, it devotes to that information the share of critical investigation the information deserves, and its truth or untruth thus becomes clear. However, if the soul is infected with partisanship for a particular opinion or sect, it accepts without a moment's hesitation the information that is agreeable to it. Prejudice and partisanship obscure the critical faculty and preclude critical investigation. The result is that falsehoods are accepted and transmitted. JcDent posted:It's much worse when you almost catch yourself in the act ('It's Kingdom of Heaven, not God, you silly") and then still somehow do it. I've read precisely one book on the subject but I'll see what I can find.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:28 |
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I was gonna say Jaguar and Puma but after a quick google it turns out that Germany already has military vehicles named after those cats.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:30 |
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Frostwerks posted:Mustelids mother fucker. Maus and Ratte.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:33 |
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Nenonen posted:If you want to abide by precedents then surely all types of bear names should be reserved for heavy bunker buster type vehicles? I thought for sure this would be sea cow.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:36 |
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Frostwerks posted:I thought for sure this would be sea cow. Don't be silly, Gabelschwanzseekühe and Rundschwanzseekühe have nothing to do with this!
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:37 |
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Yeah, I realized I hosed it up I confused schwein for cow.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:40 |
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Build one with the French and UK, name it Caracal/Karakal. Works all three ways. e: Frostwerks posted:Yeah, I realized I hosed it up I confused schwein for cow. I hope you don't work in the halal food industry!
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:41 |
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Falukorv posted:I was gonna say Jaguar and Puma but after a quick google it turns out that Germany already has military vehicles named after those cats. Felix, Gismo and Charlie are the only cats without their own tank.
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 19:43 |
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Frostwerks posted:Yeah, I realized I hosed it up I confused schwein for cow. Eisenschwein is the Landser nick for Tank.
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Nenonen posted:Maus and Ratte. I thought we were talking about stuff that actually got made
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# ? Oct 25, 2015 22:15 |