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Promethium posted:All companions have some ambient dialogue in RotHC, they won't talk in cutscenes but will say things as you go through the quest areas. All right, thanks! Yeah, I always make sure to dismount when going into new areas. I'll keep Jaesa around through RotHC and then switch over to HK-51. I really don't care enough about Quinn. Now if only I can stop playing dress up for long enough to actually finish the game.  I'm really not feeling the gloves, but I think they'll do for now. I love this mount so much, it makes the best sound when starting up. Beeme fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Ainsley McTree posted:So weird that you got muted from guild chat, I can't figure that one out I don't think it's unreasonable to expect spoilertags for an expansion that isn't even playable yet for the people that didn't subscribe by the deadline, call me crazy. Pretty sure Medullah would agree.
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Fuzz posted:I don't think it's unreasonable to expect spoilertags for an expansion that isn't even playable yet for the people that didn't subscribe by the deadline, call me crazy. Pretty sure Medullah would agree. It's not a spoiler to say that the Zakuul Empire is not something that has already been revealed as another thing. The Sith Empire (you know, the one that people can play as) is the thing that Revan and the Exile went off to fight and we've all known that since before the game came out. You might as well get mad for someone saying Valkorian isn't Luke Skywalker's dad.
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Defiance Industries posted:Valkorian isn't Luke Skywalker's dad. WHAT
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I'm leveling my first character and had seen something that indicated I might need to max companion influence prior to starting the expansion content. Is this true, and if not is there any reason aside from the crafting and crit bonuses mentioned earlier (I'm thinking achievements or the like) to worry about it? Also help I keep eyeballing the hypercrate packs because I can't stop e-gambling.
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Just to weigh in on ongoing discussion of different class stories and how they mesh with KOTFE: (There aren't actual spoilers here but I'm tagging it just in case somebody REALLY doesn't want even a hint of what KOTFE is about.) I think a strong case could be made for any of the playable characters becoming "The Outlander" due to their being all-around badasses with a lot of clout in the galaxy. However, that's just if you take them individually and disregard the existence of the other playable characters. The intensely personal relationship the Emperor has with both the Jedi Knight and the Sith Warrior is such that, if you acknowledge those stories as true and concurrent with the other ones, it would make very little sense for things to unfold such that some other dude becomes the focus of the Emperor's attention and the center of this story, no matter how powerful or important they might be objectively. It's a fairly subjective story. I'm personally going to have trouble taking it all seriously if I play through as one of the other classes, even though the Knight and Warrior are not my favorite characters. It's like if Return of the Jedi had ended with Han Solo confronting Vader in person while Luke was off doing other poo poo. Not that Han wasn't a cool guy and not that he didn't have a reason to be there, but if he's THE guy at that point, it would have left the father-son situation weirdly unresolved. Really it's your prerogative as a player to decide, when you're playing a Smuggler or something, whether or not the Jedi Knight or Sith Warrior character also exists in your universe. I think it's valid to totally ignore the other stories while playing a specific one, but having seen them all, I have trouble quieting that part of my mind. This has honestly been an issue with a lot of the post-50 content for me. Certain characters of mine, when any NPC tells them "you're the galaxy's only hope!" My immediate reaction is "well, the galaxy is hosed." It's worse with KOTFE though because the story is so personal.
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The Knight charged in like a goon and got clapped up. That's why the Smuggler saves the day, he's smart enough to collect allies and not just assume being the Chosen One will pull it off.
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Fifteen of Many posted:I'm leveling my first character and had seen something that indicated I might need to max companion influence prior to starting the expansion content. Is this true, and if not is there any reason aside from the crafting and crit bonuses mentioned earlier (I'm thinking achievements or the like) to worry about it? You don't need to worry about max influence before starting KotFE. If you're going to do the companion storylines, you need to do them before starting KotFE, since they go away once you start. You also get legacy bonuses for each of the main story companions you get, so it's worth doing those quests. The main reason people were maxing influence before the x-pac was to finish the companion storylines before starting KotFE since you can't do the companion storylines after starting the new content. Since they changed the way that companion stories trigger from being affection based to storyline/level based, you don't need to max out influence.
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So, they made Fabricator Droid a bit easier on Story Mode...
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Bruceski posted:I have Hutt Cartel (it shows up on my account screen on swtor.com) but I can't seem to get the mission for it. My ship's holoterminal just has Ilum. Level 48, act 3 done, am I missing some step or is it bugged? I went through Ilum, and after killing Malgus the breadcrumb pointed me to my holoterminal for Makeb. Is it an unmentioned prerequisite or just something weird?
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Bruceski posted:I went through Ilum, and after killing Malgus the breadcrumb pointed me to my holoterminal for Makeb. Is it an unmentioned prerequisite or just something weird? On the character I leveled recently I got the Makeb quest from my ship without ever going to Ilum. I think I was level 48.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Valkorion is truly a terrible father, yeah. The opening cinematic sold that very effectively, I liked it a lot. He even admits it if you pick the right choices. He also starts showing a disturbingly human side for...Well, whatever he is now if you start badgering him about why the hell he seems so different from his Sith Empire persona. He gave my full DS warrior unsolicited romance advice when I asked him about his past. Which I really did not see coming from a character written as a galaxy devouring lovecraftian monster.  It's one of the reasons why my warrior chose to accept his power all three times. Sure, he might be or have been a galaxy devouring monster. And he's probably going to stab me in the back at some point either as a test of worthiness or because he wants all the power for himself. But in the mean time he's actually being a superb mentor for a dark sider. He's also demonstrating just why it is his kids are hosed up. For all his admissions of making numerous mistakes he really can't change who he is on that front. Pick the right options with Senya and it turns out that he had some really manipulative reasons behind not telling you who she really is. He feels bad about it if you press him on his reasons beyond his initial (literal) cackling about it. But it doesn't stop him from dicking around with his relatives from beyond the grave. Especially if it teaches the Outlander a lesson about trusting people. Plus if you side with him he has these hilariously disconcerting moments when he seems like he's trying to either comfort you or get some sort of insight out of you. Him telling me not to worry when we were being let loose from the carbonite since we were being reborn made that conversation seem like my character was turning into something else as well. Edit: gently caress, just talking about their family has a post look like it was released by the CIA. Dude's basically more Kreia than Kreia was at this point. All i'm going say on that front I guess. Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Bruceski posted:I went through Ilum, and after killing Malgus the breadcrumb pointed me to my holoterminal for Makeb. Is it an unmentioned prerequisite or just something weird? You get both Makeb breadcrump at 47 or 48 and Ilum breadcrumb after 50
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Berke Negri posted:You get both Makeb breadcrump at 47 or 48 and Ilum breadcrumb after 50 Well the terminal gave me Ilum at 47 and wouldn't let me get Makeb until I was done, so let's put it down to "something weird".
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Archonex posted:He even admits it if you pick the right choices. He also starts showing a disturbingly human side for...Well, whatever he is now if you start badgering him about why the hell he seems so different from his Sith Empire persona. He gave my full DS warrior unsolicited romance advice when I asked him about his past. Which I really did not see coming from a character written as a galaxy devouring lovecraftian monster. At least this post confirms that basically by being confrontational and never giving into him, it feels like I missed a lot. It led to a lot of cool moments, my favorite being in the dream sequence when you're broken and beaten, but you just recite the Sith code and get back up, but that really lends some new perspective on him. Also it sounds like it lowers the chance that he is the Light side version of Vitiate, which is a VERY good thing. Still I think this highlights a major fault of the storyline, in that you or Lana never sit Koth and Senya down for Imperial History 101 and show just what a loving rear end in a top hat Vitiate was, even if he was a good guy at the start. (Saving your people from genocide understandably nabs you some good guy points.) Also thinking about it, Koth really isn't as good of a guy as he seems. He just wants an Eternal Emperor on the throne and things back to good for Zakuul. A society based around using a droid fleet to crush everyone in front of them, who has never lost except once. But he's really personable so the fact that he wants this is kinda obscured. Eimi fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Archonex posted:It's one of the reasons why my warrior chose to accept his power all three times. Sure, he might be or have been a galaxy devouring monster. And he's probably going to stab me in the back at some point either as a test of worthiness or because he wants all the power for himself. But in the mean time he's actually being a superb mentor for a dark sider Ultimately, of course you can't lose. You're always going to be able to advance the story later because it's an MMO. It makes those choices easier, because you know the difference between you accepting the power every time and someone else rejecting it every time is that the cutscene when you get rid of him is slightly different. I don't mean this as a negative, I always think "well I'll try that in a replay" in other games with the more evil choices but I never actually replay them.
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Bruceski posted:Well the terminal gave me Ilum at 47 and wouldn't let me get Makeb until I was done, so let's put it down to "something weird". I just read that as of 4.0a, Ilum is required to be completed prior to Makeb. Rumor has it there was a way to launch KOTFE without early access and that's why the change was made. Don't know if that's a permanent change or not - without the Makeb bolster and with level syncing, there are a billion other ways to level now so I'd say no big loss. Ilum is better story anyways. 
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Bruceski posted:Well the terminal gave me Ilum at 47 and wouldn't let me get Makeb until I was done, so let's put it down to "something weird". Sorry that's my wrong, you get ilum after chapter 3 is done, regardless of level. edit: you kind of want to do ilum first anyways if you're interested in the story, now if you want to level you can just grind out heroics or whatever. Ilum is also like, four "story" missions long and two solo fps anyhow, its not bad and kind of wraps up the ~origin~ classline after chapter 3.
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Uhhhhhh what? I just started a new character last night just to screw around and check out the new leveling experience in between doing real stuff. I decided since I hit level 15 after leaving Tython, I'd run a bounty mission. By the time I was done hunting the bounty, I was 17. drat, pretty good XP right? Then I went to the fleet to turn in it and hit LEVEL 20. Plus like 1/3 of another level. I gained 5 levels from one short quest, 3 of them in one turn-in. I kiiiiinda feel like that was not intended. But uh, OK.
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Nerd Of Prey posted:Uhhhhhh what? Yeah XP is stupid at whatever level. I read on Reddit that you can actually hit level 15 within 10 minutes by (very minor spoiler) using the Niko summon token, then travelling to Odessan to talk to him, and while you're there talking to the ship droids and getting their quests
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Oct 25, 2015 06:26
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How I feel leveling up my Operative through Chapter 2 and doing the Kaliyo side quests.. "Kaliyo, you are loving rear end in a top hat, you are a real piece of poo poo to these people. Keyword: onomatofuckyourself!" **blaster shot to the head**
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Bruceski posted:Well the terminal gave me Ilum at 47 and wouldn't let me get Makeb until I was done, so let's put it down to "something weird".
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Oct 25, 2015 07:21
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I kinda like, though, that level syncing means being overlevelled doesn't really mean anything - no matter how overlevelled you might be, you won't be too OP for any given content (well, you will, because companions are insane, but still) or quit getting XP from doing missions or whatever, at least till you hit level cap.
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Medullah posted:Yeah XP is stupid at whatever level. I read on Reddit that you can actually hit level 15 within 10 minutes by (very minor spoiler) using the Niko summon token, then travelling to Odessan to talk to him, and while you're there talking to the ship droids and getting their quests I tried this just now on my same now-level-20 dude and got a little over one full level... I was wondering if it would put me at like 30, but no such luck! You can only talk to the opposite faction's droid, but you do get the same rewards as a level 65 character would.
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I'll happily take this over launch-era having to go back and grind mobs so as not to be underleveled for the next planet.
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Moon Slayer posted:I'll happily take this over launch-era having to go back and grind mobs so as not to be underleveled for the next planet. Or waiting until the next day to do the heroic quests again. Or the same flashpoint a 3rd time.
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I'm a fan of the new xp/levelling system. Its almost as friendly as the old City of Heroes system. I got to 65 before I reached Alderaan, without really meaning to. The heroics dropping level appropriate gear, rather than planet appropriate gear, means you dont even need to waste the copious data crystals keeping yourself geared appropriately. I'll probably wrap up my last two outstanding stories - Knight and Consular (ugh) - before heading into KotFE with either Glabus or Jehane. Seems like it isnt really necessary for group content, raids et al. So thats another good thing.
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I thought healer companions were nasty, I just set mine to DPS. 25 influence (or whatever it's called), does at least as much damage as I do and golds 3 levels above me die so quick we don't *need* heals. Also even if I'm sick of the Ilum flashpoints (they're just altogether too long for my tastes, and even if solo is EZMode I have panic attacks from things like the Battle for Ilum boss that stuns everyone and summons adds who promptly eat the healer while everyone's still stunned) I'm glad I ran them. The level 52 quest reward was... a little bit of an upgrade.  No such thing as overkill.
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Just getting back into the game, how do you quick travel to the heroic missions? edit: Nevermind, i see the icon. I thought it was loot objective icons. CheeseSpawn fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Oct 25, 2015 10:20
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Err isn't Zenith supposed to join a Jedi Consular's crew after Balmorra? He's not in my list. Just finished Quesh too.
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Yes he is but they seem to have really hosed up companions with 4.0 for some people. The patch on Tuesday might fix it I guess seeing as it's meant to fix the FE comp terminal.
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Cool. Also wow some of these tactical flashpoints are grossly overtuned. Czerka in particular.
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Czerka's always been a bit tricky. I am enjoying that comps can now adequately heal HM Flashpoints. No more must we suffer under the tyranny of the Healer Cartel! Now we can roll HMs with... pubbies. Oh god. Anyone know if running flashpoints solo will still allow the flashpoint specific gear to drop? Or group only?
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So just a thought I was having in regards to story specific companions (KoFE ones) and grinding influences and going forward. Basically it might not be the best idea to do it on them, especially for the sake of crafting stuff. Basically HK-55 died without any warning, and while I'm not sure that you could feed them gifts before the story ended, it throws into question whether or not all your story friends will stick around forever. I would say that Lana, Theran, and Koth are pretty safe bets, being romances, but it kinda leaves the others in a grey area. I could see Senya dying dueling her children or sacrificing herself another way. Just a thought that it might be better to spend your gifts on non story companions in FE.
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Does anyone have to double-click the crew skills icons to get level-appropriate missions to show up? It's nothing more than a nuisance, but I am wondering if there is something I can do to fix it.
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Hey when getting contracts for kinpin bounties should I do it on different characters or is it okay to put them all on one?
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StashAugustine posted:Hey when getting contracts for kinpin bounties should I do it on different characters or is it okay to put them all on one? A character can only do one Kingpin per week so it's better to spread them around if you want to do more than one a week.
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StashAugustine posted:Hey when getting contracts for kinpin bounties should I do it on different characters or is it okay to put them all on one? I was considering to come back to this and play it in a very casual way. But I saw some spoilers about Knights and was wondering what happens to my old companions and the HK droid, after all that quest was a pain in the rear end to do the first time, scanning for pieces and all.. I don't care about spoilers and would love some info so I can make a decision. I would like to keep playing with my old crew.
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Hammerstein posted:I was considering to come back to this and play it in a very casual way. But I saw some spoilers about Knights and was wondering what happens to my old companions and the HK droid, after all that quest was a pain in the rear end to do the first time, scanning for pieces and all.. I don't care about spoilers and would love some info so I can make a decision. I would like to keep playing with my old crew. Your old companions are all gone, but you can recruit certain ones from any class at the end of the current story. More will be added in future updates looks like. Also apparently there's a terminal to get all your original companions back but it's not currently working. You keep Treek and HK-51 if you have them.
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So I was interested in the new expansion and liked some of the changes they made with XP from story missions so I decided to try it out. I did a solo flashpoint with the cheat mode robot and all I got for drops the entire time was common data crystals. Do flashpoints not drop items anymore or is this a solo mode thing? Also what the gently caress do I do with data crystals, I can't find any use for them besides level 65 gear and companion gifts. I feel like I'm missing something obvious because this is all so incomprehensible. 
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