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Were any of the 4th-gen crop (14/15/16/18) of fighters ever nuke-certified?
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Oct 24, 2015 23:54
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Party Plane Jones posted:There is a law (dating from about the late 1950s/early 1960s) that states no nuclear-capable jet aircraft can be sold/transferred to a private party. Sorry, maybe this has been discussed before (I haven't caught up on the entire thread yet!) but this seems a bit weird. What does "nuclear-capable" really mean? I assume you can just remove the box that does the special handshake with the bomb to arm it or whatever and the plane can no longer launch nuclear weapons, but is it still "nuclear-capable" because you can physically mount a nuclear bomb on it?
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Oct 24, 2015 23:55
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Enourmo posted:Were any of the 4th-gen crop (14/15/16/18) of fighters ever nuke-certified? The F-16 certainly is, and I think the F-18 is as well. I would additionally WAG that the F-15E is, too.
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Oct 24, 2015 23:57
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Buttcoin purse posted:Sorry, maybe this has been discussed before (I haven't caught up on the entire thread yet!) but this seems a bit weird. What does "nuclear-capable" really mean? I assume you can just remove the box that does the special handshake with the bomb to arm it or whatever and the plane can no longer launch nuclear weapons, but is it still "nuclear-capable" because you can physically mount a nuclear bomb on it? If you can't do the special handshake with the bomb to arm it, then you're just carrying an expensive brick. That's not "nuclear capable" any more than a pallet jack or a mule is. It's that box and all the associated wiring that makes a US warplane capable of successfully employing a nuclear weapon that makes something "nuclear capable." The bombs themselves use standard hard points, and can be physically carried by anything with hardpoints, pretty much.
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Oct 25, 2015 00:01
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Spaced God posted:Starfighter is the Miata of fighters Huge engine in a tiny body, fast, twitchy, likely to kill its pilots... Starfighter is the Shelby Cobra of fighters.
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Oct 25, 2015 00:21
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vessbot posted:Hey Linedance, I saw the OP today, and in it where you have a link to my post about the Streak Eagle, you forgot there's a Part 2! Updated!
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Oct 25, 2015 00:45
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Wouldn't the Miata of fighter jets be something like the F-5/T-38? It's also probably the most realistic option to owning an actual fighter jet.
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Oct 25, 2015 02:07
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Yeah, I always thought the F-5 was very Miata-like. Previa_fun posted:Huge engine in a tiny body, fast, twitchy, likely to kill its pilots... Or a souped-up motorcycle.
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Oct 25, 2015 02:36
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YF19pilot posted:Wouldn't the Miata of fighter jets be something like the F-5/T-38? It's also probably the most realistic option to owning an actual fighter jet. How recent of a fighter jet? Michael Dorn owned an F-86.
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Oct 25, 2015 03:11
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F-86es, MiG-15s, and the like routinely come up for sale on sites like Courtesy Aircraft, Platinum Fighters, and even Trade-a-Plane
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Oct 25, 2015 03:41
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hobbesmaster posted:How recent of a fighter jet? Michael Dorn owned an F-86. He also owned TWO F-104s. I believe he still owns one.
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Oct 25, 2015 03:49
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Something I never expected to say: I wish I could be Michael Dorn.
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Oct 25, 2015 04:54
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Godholio posted:Something I never expected to say: I wish I could be Michael Dorn. Uhh speak for yourself, I'm pretty sure I wish I could've been given this line in an actual Hollywood movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFxGPI1Uvlg
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Oct 25, 2015 05:22
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Oct 25, 2015 10:57
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Why? In what way is that better than using a non modified vehicle? Why?
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Oct 25, 2015 15:04
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tactlessbastard posted:Why? In what way is that better than using a non modified vehicle? Why? I think its for ease of backing up/turning around with the plane in a tight spot with other planes parked around. I also found a Seaplane taking off from a trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88o4UhSeCx0
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Oct 25, 2015 15:09
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Oct 25, 2015 16:05
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The B-2 is one of those planes that just will never not look like a CGI rendering. Even when I got to see it do a fly-by of my college, it still looks completely and utterly unreal, which is pretty cool. Except from the side, then it looks like a football or rugby ball.
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Oct 25, 2015 16:26
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tactlessbastard posted:Why? In what way is that better than using a non modified vehicle? Why? What non modified vehicles are there for moving seaplanes? Hanging the dolly off the back makes it really hard for moving sea planes that are parked on land as you spend all your time looking out the back, plus it makes it more difficult to line up with the spreaders when picking it out of the water. Putting it out front and leaving the back wheels on means it can't steer.
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Oct 25, 2015 18:06
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Anyone here live in OKC? I just saw a giant four piston engined aircraft fly low near downtown. I thought it was a b-29 at first but it was too stout and there is no way in hell fifi is in town right now. It did look like it had a similar cockpit window though It was silver, but the flaps were some shade of red-orange.
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Oct 25, 2015 18:08
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The B-2 is one of the most surreal-looking airplanes ever. It's one of the few planes that you can reliably describe its appearance as "science fiction incarnated".
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Oct 25, 2015 19:04
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Fred Breakfast posted:Anyone here live in OKC? I just saw a giant four piston engined aircraft fly low near downtown. I thought it was a b-29 at first but it was too stout and there is no way in hell fifi is in town right now. It did look like it had a similar cockpit window though It's Aluminum Overcast, a B-17. Stout is a good adjective. It's at Sundance airport in Yukon yesterday and today.
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Oct 25, 2015 19:23
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Fred Breakfast posted:Anyone here live in OKC? I just saw a giant four piston engined aircraft fly low near downtown. I thought it was a b-29 at first but it was too stout and there is no way in hell fifi is in town right now. It did look like it had a similar cockpit window though it was the B-17 that was flying over Denver all last week, I bet. I didn't get a tail number.
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Oct 25, 2015 19:27
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I'll never stop getting cheered up when I remember that Jack Northrop got to see it coming to life before he died.
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Oct 26, 2015 04:24
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I love how well the phenomenon of "black triangular UFOs" in the southwest lines up with the development of the B-2 and the F-117.
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Oct 26, 2015 05:08
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Godholio posted:I'll never stop getting cheered up when I remember that Jack Northrop got to see it coming to life before he died.  inside.Wingnut Ninja posted:I love how well the phenomenon of "black triangular UFOs" in the southwest lines up with the development of the B-2 and the F-117.
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Oct 26, 2015 05:13
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YF19pilot posted:The B-2 is one of those planes that just will never not look like a CGI rendering. Even when I got to see it do a fly-by of my college, it still looks completely and utterly unreal, which is pretty cool. Except from the side, then it looks like a football or rugby ball. We had a B-2 filyover a few years ago before a game and it was probably the creepiest thing I've ever experienced. Two billion dollars flying over your head and it doesn't even make a sound until after it's gone way past you. e: nope nevermind Frinkahedron fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 05:36
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slidebite posted:I saw a magazine article and remember feeling the same shortly after the B2 was publicly announced. Something about AF officers coming to his house asking him to sign and NDA and showing him all the poo poo. Made me Did he live long enough to see it fly?
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Oct 26, 2015 05:52
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I don't know. I don't think so, it was more of a vindication article and he was literally a foot in the grave at that point. Still pretty honorable of the AF do it though.
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Oct 26, 2015 05:58
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Preoptopus posted:I think its for ease of backing up/turning around with the plane in a tight spot with other planes parked around. Pfft. Show me a seaplane taking off from a treadmill and I'll be impressed.
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Oct 26, 2015 06:09
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The Locator posted:Did he live long enough to see it fly? No. He got to see some diagrams and concept art and a scale model, after the design was basically locked. So he knew what it was going to look like, at least. The story goes that he wrote (he was unable to speak at that point) something like "So this is why God has kept me alive for the past 25 years." He died a few months later.
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Oct 26, 2015 06:24
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Godholio posted:No. He got to see some diagrams and concept art and a scale model, after the design was basically locked. So he knew what it was going to look like, at least. The story goes that he wrote (he was unable to speak at that point) something like "So this is why God has kept me alive for the past 25 years." He died a few months later. Bummer, but it's pretty cool that they brought him in to see what they had going before he died.
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Oct 26, 2015 06:50
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Earlier this year 737s had LED lighting for cargo, wheel well, and landing lights as standard for delivery. Been starting to see some flying through the Seattle fog and they're quite bright! It's a different look than what I'm used to seeing, so I'm kind of excited to see the new "UFO Sighting" videos appear.
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Oct 26, 2015 08:35
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Orville Wright managed to live long enough to see the sound barrier broken. Imagine watching aviation progress from rickety cotton-and-plywood contraptions that try to spin themselves out of the sky with their engine's own centrifugal force to glimmering, screaming, aluminum cigars with wings that /go faster than SOUND/ in less than 40 years.
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Oct 26, 2015 08:42
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Plinkey posted:Cozy. Old quote, but these are awesome.
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Oct 26, 2015 14:59
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Fredrick posted:Orville Wright managed to live long enough to see the sound barrier broken. Imagine watching aviation progress from rickety cotton-and-plywood contraptions that try to spin themselves out of the sky with their engine's own centrifugal force to glimmering, screaming, aluminum cigars with wings that /go faster than SOUND/ in less than 40 years. Another 14 and he'd have seen John Glenn go into orbit. 
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Oct 26, 2015 15:39
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ehnus posted:Hanging the dolly off the back makes it really hard for moving sea planes that are parked on land as you spend all your time looking out the back, plus it makes it more difficult to line up with the spreaders when picking it out of the water. The Olds Toronado was sometimes used for this, as it was body-on-frame V8 FWD. 
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Oct 26, 2015 16:35
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Cool/rare Nazi plane pictures Messerschmitt Me 262V-1 Nowarra collection by SDASM Archives, on Flickr Messerschmitt Me 262 R-7 Weimar, Germany 12 May 1945 Peter Boisseau collection by SDASM Archives, on Flickr Messerschmitt Me 309V-1 Nowarra collection by SDASM Archives, on Flickr Early test flight of Messerschmitt Me 163V-1 Nowarra collection by SDASM Archives, on Flickr Messerschmitt P.1101 Nowarra collection by SDASM Archives, on FlickrDidn't know that there were at least two 1101 mockups, the pictured one and one without a cockpit.
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Oct 26, 2015 17:13
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rocket_350 posted:The Olds Toronado was sometimes used for this, as it was body-on-frame V8 FWD. That looks so wrong.
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But feels so right
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