Guavanaut posted:

Here's one in the background.

Paladinus posted:

He's already said that exact racist thing. There are no winks to anyone.
Don't know what's wrong with the 'chinaman' in this one. Please, don't say slitty eyes. I don't know who other people are, but Xi Jinping and his wife are bang on.

baka kaba posted:

The wink is that it's an excuse for Mac to explicitly write that racist thing, in the cartoon. Heavens, don't use THIS SLUR about THESE CHINESE PEOPLE prince philip! That would be awful! We're not allowed to say THIS SLUR in this PC society anymore!

And yeah Chinese people do actually open their eyes now and again. It's almost like... Mac's saying... that the slur is perfectly accurate! PC SOCIETY

goatface posted:

Paladinus posted:

I guess Mac thinks Farage is Chinese, too.

Or maybe that's just how people look when they smile.

Here's a Chinese cartoon with two smiling non-Chinese people.

Paladinus posted:

I guess Mac thinks Farage is Chinese, too.

Or maybe that's just how people look when they smile.

Here's a Chinese cartoon with two smiling non-Chinese people.

baka kaba posted:

Oh wow, I guess drawing Chinese people with slits for eyes isn't an established stereotype in cartoons, especially in one that literally says "REMEMBER DON'T SAY SLITTY EYES" above them, because noted non-stereotyper Mac drew someone else smiling with their eyes closed once

goatface posted:

Cloud Potato posted:

Mail:
Mac on... the Chinese President's state visit to the UK

'Honestly. Directions to the gents would have been enough, Mr Cameron.'

Paladinus posted:

How strange. Now that this exotic 'chinaman' is not smiling he no longer possesses 'slitty eyes'. Bizarre.

Cloud Potato posted:

Also this week's Guardian Sport cartoon is a tribute to Howard Kendall.

Guardian commenter SidFishes posted:

I’ve written to two sports ‘celebrities’ in my life. The first was to Richie Benaud after he’d announced his retirement. I wrote to him to thank him for being the calm rational voice of my cricket summers and with good grace he responded. The second letter I wrote was to Howard Kendall when I was a 23 year old. That wasn’t such a nice letter.

I first watched Howard Kendall when him Harvey and Ball formed the classiest Everton midfield I was to ever experience (and probably ever will). I was 11 in 1970, when Everton won the league and in those days troops of 11 year olds (and younger!) would still go the game in numbers and unsupervised without it becoming a child neglect issue. (In fact the only dilemma I’d ever face match days was whether to spend my bus fare home on a bag of chips and a walk back to Huyton or risk a clip around the head by the conductor for bunking on the bus) I still remember the brilliance of that midfield, though through the haze of 50 years.

1981 Kendall rejoined Everton as manager and at first the signs were not promising by 1982/3 tempers were frayed and the ‘Kendall Out!’ chants became a small but significant presence at home games. After one particularly disappointing game I reached for the Basildon Bond and fountain pen (blue ink not green) and poured out all of my frustrations to the manager.

I cant remember the wording of the letter, but the gist was that I wasn’t happy with his management, he wasn’t motivating the players, they were lazy and I was particularly scathing of our young Welsh Left Back, who was the most useless defender I ever had the misfortune to watch. I ended the letter that if I was ever given the chance to play for Everton you’d need the trainer to carry me off the field as I’d have used every last drop of energy during the game.

He responded. He offered me a trial.

I took the opportunity and as a not very good alehouse player was so far out of my depth it was embarrassing. After it, he treated me to lunch, a tour of the facilities and the chance to meet the players - he offered me tickets for the next Everton home game, which I declined as I was a season ticket holder already, so he arranged for me to have two tickets sent to my address for Everton’s next away game (Arsenal). He never mentioned the letter I’d written once except to say as we parted - ‘you see (Sid), we are trying our best’

The manager I roundly castigated went on not only to win my respect but became the most successful manager in Everton’s history. The Welsh Left Back I was scathing about was Kevin Ratcliffe playing out of position who became Everton’s most successful captain and certainly the quickest central defender I ever watched.

So thanks Howard wherever you are for the best 10 footballing years of my life both watching you as a player and your first spell as a manager. Most of all from a very personal note - thanks for teaching me the value of humility.

Cloud Potato posted:

Telegraph:

Guavanaut posted:

Here's one in the background.

Coohoolin posted:

Cloud Potato posted:

Guardian:

Cloud Potato posted:

Telegraph:

Cloud Potato posted:

Mail:

Coohoolin posted:

Guavanaut posted:

I'm guessing from the last few front pages that I've seen in store that sugar is the Mail's new 'ban this sick filth'?

Mr. Squishy posted:

Probably, but this particular cartoon is referencing a Ministry of Health report on obesity that recommended a vice-tax on sugar as a good start, which Cameron rejected without reading.

Cloud Potato posted:

Observer:

"How David Cameron counts his toes... - Chris Riddell on the prime minister’s week"

Cliff Racer posted:

Its almost like most of the people who complain about over-labelling just do it because they see other people doing it, not because the labels are actually talking down to the audience or ruining the cartoon.

Puntification posted:

Yeah the rhyme is the theme that ties the cartoon together and isn't an intrusive use of labeling. Removing it was a mistake.

Coohoolin posted:

Lord of the Llamas posted:

+ 1


As someone who recently moved from Edinburgh to the east of England this cartoon is way off the mark. EVEL is going to go down very well with with most of England, i.e. the Tory base. EVEL is flawed in so many ways but the basic premise behind it is fairly sound and most people don't look beyond that. Nats like you obviously won't agree but I think we need to stop portraying issues as Scotland vs England because it distracts from the fact that these issues affect much of England as well. Regional devolution is an important issue that should be discussed (I think one of the best New Labour policies that never got off the ground was regional assemblies) and, for example, the "West Lothian" question can also be levied against London MPs given the extent of devolution to the London mayor and Assembly - it's not just a Scotland vs England thing and it does a disservice to the country to continue to portray it as such. The only people who benefit from that are the Tories and the SNP.

The Supreme Court posted:

It depends how you interpret it; if the author meant it as unionism vs. Scottish nationalists (or the independence movement as a whole), I think it illustrates your point. EVEL in this is only going to hurt the union, even without SNP involvement.