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Good Citizen posted:For some reason I always think this was Sharon Angle. Mixing up my crazy people that lost winnable elections http://wonkette.com/595220/nevada-wingnut-sharron-angle-threatens-to-lose-another-senate-race Funny you should mention her.
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Three Olives posted:Serious question, the right loves talking about trickle down and tax cuts paying for themselves but wouldn't increased government spending inherently raise tax revenues and grow the economy? e.g. spending yourself out of a recession? I would recommend you read Keynes Hayek for a good background on the origin of two major schools of economic thought. As others have said, it depends how the money is spent, but generally yes.
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Three Olives posted:Serious question, the right loves talking about trickle down and tax cuts paying for themselves but wouldn't increased government spending inherently raise tax revenues and grow the economy? e.g. spending yourself out of a recession? Here's a hint: they are being dishonest.
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Oct 26, 2015 18:58
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evilweasel posted:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-congress-budget-debt-ceiling TPM updated it with a NYTimes link and: quote:The New York Times also has reported on the deal discussions and said "officials briefed on the negotiations said the emerging accord would call for cuts in spending on Medicare and Social Security disability benefits."
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Oct 26, 2015 19:01
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Zeroisanumber posted:I remember reading that story and wondering why she didn't just do what normal people do and order pizza and turn on Adult Swim and hope that she didn't do anything too weird by the next morning. Eating too much edibles can be legit not fun even if you're used to pot. Of course she's an idiot who bought a clearly labeled pot candy and hogged down on the whole bigass bar because she didn't instantly feel high so it's still entirely on her. Like others said it's like trying to say we need to ban booze because if I chortle down a handle of vodka I'm probably gonna have a bad day.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:01
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Mitt Romney posted:TPM updated it with a NYTimes link and: That's going to suck (and it's moderately difficult to believe that they would seriously try and gently caress with Medicare in an election year) but if it's really the only way to avoid a default...
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Oct 26, 2015 19:05
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Mitt Romney posted:TPM updated it with a NYTimes link and: That's about what I expected. Why Obama keeps trying to slather his name over these incredibly poo poo deals is beyond me. Tatum Girlparts posted:Eating too much edibles can be legit not fun even if you're used to pot. I've only ever smoked, but I'll keep that in mind.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:05
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Zeroisanumber posted:I remember reading that story and wondering why she didn't just do what normal people do and order pizza and turn on Adult Swim and hope that she didn't do anything too weird by the next morning. That much pot for someone who has never consumed it before would almost certainly be overwhelming. It can make your entire body go numb, cause hallucinations, etc. If you don't know much about what you're taking, and if you eat 10 doses worth on your first time you certainly don't, then panicking isn't an unexpected response at all.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:07
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:She has a way better campaign team this time. From what I understand she largely has Obama's campaign team this time.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I've only ever smoked, but I'll keep that in mind. I can't count the number of people who've come up to me and said "I'm not feeling anything at all, I'm gonna eat the rest". Only about half of those people can be convinced not to do so, but as a weed guru I assure you it is crucial to set a small dose and stick with it. Many is the time I've gotten way too high, and it's always from edibles.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:08
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Republicans win again!  I look forward to dying in poverty in 50 years.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:09
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Mitt Romney posted:TPM updated it with a NYTimes link and: Ugh, hopefully the details aren't as bad as that sounds.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:10
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Hillary appears to not understand that Congress could vote to cut her pay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8h7V261UQg
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mdemone posted:I can't count the number of people who've come up to me and said "I'm not feeling anything at all, I'm gonna eat the rest". Only about half of those people can be convinced not to do so, but as a weed guru I assure you it is crucial to set a small dose and stick with it. Many is the time I've gotten way too high, and it's always from edibles. my name is maureen dowd and i'm here to tell you all how irresponsible and dangerous it is to not place safety rails at the edges of cliffs *takes running start, leaps off cliff* edibles are tricky because the onset is slow and you can't just stop being high. which is why it is of paramount importance to, you know, dose yourself slowly and be aware of your doses. i would think that this is just basic drug knowledge 101 but i guess you don't have to know such things to write op eds for the new york times e: my state passed a law called "Brad's Law" because some rich dude's son smoked way too much synthetic weed in a hot tub, passed out, and drowned. we really should teach basic drug safety in schools, right after we talk about condoms. don't mix drugs, don't trip alone, remember what you took, do your research and check your doses first, and don't ever dose in a dangerous location such as a body of water boner confessor fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 19:12
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Luigi Thirty posted:Republicans win again! Don't worry, you may not have to wait anywhere near that long.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:12
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With any luck the Tea Party will gently caress over Obama's dumbass bargain again.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:12
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Welp, its been a nice country.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:13
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CommieGIR posted:Welp, its been a nice country. Eh
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Oct 26, 2015 19:14
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The disability thing is not as out of left field as people think. The disability programs are routinely broke and paid for by transferring funds from the rest of SS/Medicare - but Republicans blocked that this year with the plan of trying to cut disability benefits because if nobody does anything the programs go broke. Somehow this hasn't gotten much press but it's not random that's included in a budget deal, though it's not good that there's any cave to that latest hostage.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:16
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Don't worry, you may not have to wait anywhere near that long. What will kill us all first, global warming, Trump presidency, that asteroid?
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Oct 26, 2015 19:17
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Luigi Thirty posted:What will kill us all first, global warming, Trump presidency, that asteroid? Unlimited steak and gulf shrimp buffet at the Golden Corral.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:18
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Popular Thug Drink posted:e: my state passed a law called "Brad's Law" because some rich dude's son smoked way too much synthetic weed in a hot tub, passed out, and drowned. we really should teach basic drug safety in schools, right after we talk about condoms. don't mix drugs, don't trip alone, remember what you took, do your research and check your doses first, and don't ever dose in a dangerous location such as a body of water Just like sex ed, many people would consider that a type of moral hazard because the only thing you should hear about drugs/sex is don't do it! *turns hat backwards, raps about being cool and staying in school*
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Gravel Gravy posted:gulf shrimp Mmmm, dispersants.
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Luigi Thirty posted:What will kill us all first, global warming, Trump presidency, that asteroid? Comically, Putin goes nuclear: the Russians were the real danger all along. More realistically, rising health care costs and increased cuts to public health care spending lead to mass epidemics and hordes of chronically ill homeless elderly indigents. You die in a mass shooting in 2030, when an unmedicated Alzheimer's patient (there's a cure by then) goes on a rampage to demand that Obama get his government hands off of Medicare (which no longer exists).
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Oct 26, 2015 19:22
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Here's what the TPM story actually says about the cuts:quote:The deal is expected to include $70 billion-$75 billion in increased spending for defense and domestic spending, sources said. That new spending would be offset by sales from the strategic petroleum oil reserve, use of public airwaves for telecommunications companies and changes to the crop insurance program — among other measures. Moreover, the deal would spread out increases in Medicare premiums over time so beneficiaries don't feel them acutely. It would also aim to preserve the Social Security disability trust fund, sources said
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Oct 26, 2015 19:24
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Comically, Putin goes nuclear: the Russians were the real danger all along. Meh, Putin will launch a Mars mission that breaks up in mid flight and alerts NORAD tracking stations as a possible incoming first strike, and the world goes to hell this time instead of the computer double checking and dismissing the alert.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:24
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Here's what the TPM story actually says about the cuts: Greg Sargent also has a source confirming the Medicare Part B change, which isn't really "cuts" as described in the NYT.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:26
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Here's what the TPM story actually says about the cuts: How likely is this deal since Ryan isn't part of the negotiations?
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Oct 26, 2015 19:26
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Here's what the TPM story actually says about the cuts: Oh, phew, defense spending increases... I was getting worried for a second there that our poor underfunded military might not be able to purchase the drones they need!
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Oct 26, 2015 19:27
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Three Olives posted:When the government spends money they don't set piles of cash on fire Counterpoint: the GWOT
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BonoMan posted:Oh, phew, defense spending increases... I was getting worried for a second there that our poor underfunded military might not be able to purchase the drones they need! Meh, just pointing out that the "cuts" aren't really cuts and that people are, as per usual, exaggerating. Why yes, I can totes see House Republicans going along with cuts to medicare and ss, in a loving election year.
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Oct 26, 2015 19:29
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Meh, just pointing out that the "cuts" aren't really cuts and that people are, as per usual, exaggerating. Who is running for re-election in 2015?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Meh, just pointing out that the "cuts" aren't really cuts and that people are, as per usual, exaggerating. I wasn't blaming you or anything. Just the ridiculous nature of defense spending increases in our financial climate.
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Maureen Dowd used to date Aaron Sorkin, there's a series of conversations I'm sure were enlightening to everybody
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quote:That new spending would be offset by sales from the strategic petroleum oil reserve, Holy poo poo is this serious? Given the new production online selling off some of the strategic petroleum reserve is probably not a horrible idea except for the fact that the price of oil is already in the shitter even before Iran starts dumping oil into the market and now the US wants to dump even more supply into the market?
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BonoMan posted:Oh, phew, defense spending increases... I was getting worried for a second there that our poor underfunded military might not be able to purchase the drones they need! Defense spending increases is what the Republicans want and are willing to talk about expanding domestic spending for, and what the Democrats were holding back until they got additional domestic spending. Knowing the increase is part of the deal tells you something about what is likely also in it. Also I appreciate the politics of funding this by selling oil - depressing gas prices and other prices for consumers, while loving over gas-producing red states by lowering the price of gas even further. Hilarious!
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Three Olives posted:Holy poo poo is this serious? Given the new production online selling off some of the strategic petroleum reserve is probably not a horrible idea except for the fact that the price of oil is already in the shitter even before Iran starts dumping oil into the market and now the US wants to dump even more supply into the market? Wonder how much that'd hurt Russia.
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SedanChair posted:Maureen Dowd used to date Aaron Sorkin, there's a series of conversations I'm sure were enlightening to everybody Was the Female Republican Strawman in the West Wing supposed to be Maureen Dowd?
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Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.)
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Luigi Thirty posted:Was the Female Republican Strawman in the West Wing supposed to be Maureen Dowd? If the strawman on a Sorkin show isn't a shrill millennial who just needs to shut up and listen to the wisdom of her elders, then it's Maureen Dowd.
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