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I think it's a little interesting that apparently Asgore and Toriel are immortal unless they have a child and pass their soul on to it, so with Asriel gone they'll be around forever and probably have to learn to get along. They'll both outlive Frisk and the rest of their friends, but they're probably used to that what with the rest of their monster subjects - teacher seems like a good job since it'd keep them in contact with every new generation. It's also sad that the last conversation with Asriel implies he'll revert to Flowey at some point. Assuming that Save/Load powers either cease to exist or remain with Frisk, he's not too much of a danger anymore, but he still exists and he's still the hollow shell of Asgore and Toriel's son. I guess the future is left open but I'd like to think there's some way to help him that doesn't result in mad science and amalgamated monsters - maybe Asgore and Toriel can still pass their souls on to him somehow?
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Dolash posted:I think it's a little interesting that apparently Asgore and Toriel are immortal unless they have a child and pass their soul on to it, so with Asriel gone they'll be around forever and probably have to learn to get along. They'll both outlive Frisk and the rest of their friends, but they're probably used to that what with the rest of their monster subjects - teacher seems like a good job since it'd keep them in contact with every new generation. You'd have them both die just to save him?
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Oct 26, 2015 21:41
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Rorahusky posted:Besides, after losing two children and very nearly losing a third, I sort of picture Toriel as someone who would focus exclusively on raising Frisk, and save trying to have a lovelife for until after he's all grown up and moved out of the house. Someone please photoshop Papyrus' and Sans' faces onto this video.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:41
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Valgaav posted:You'd have them both die just to save him? If you're asking if two parents would die to save their one child I think a vast majority of parents would say yes, especially if that exchange were built into their biology.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:42
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Rorahusky posted:As Flowey, Asriel is a complete and utter rear end who inspires seething rage in me. Well, it's kind of cheating since they're basically 2 different characters. It's not "now I accept the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP" but "I had my sociopathy healed from gaining a soul, completely changing my personality, and now I feel bad". Flowey got to see how much everyone cared about Frisk / each other and he just doubled down on being a nihilistic rear end because he was physically incapable of doing anything else. Also going back to pre-ending stuff, I really want to know more Alphys' predecessor, who presumably designed the weird machine in the lab. That seems like something which was conspicuously not mentioned so either it's only supposed to be implied or it's going to be genocide run material.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:42
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Sans and Papyrus should have a huge cousin called Impact. And one called Wingdings who nobody can understand.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:44
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Valgaav posted:alt route talk Stop that.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:48
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Oct 26, 2015 21:52
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McDragon posted:Sans and Papyrus should have a huge cousin called Impact. And one called Wingdings who nobody can understand. I should mention that JN Wiedle is credited as "special inspiration" for Sans and Papyrus, and they have a webcomic starring a skeleton named Helvetica
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Oct 26, 2015 21:53
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GlyphGryph posted:Stop that. ...What? If it's alt route talk, it's a surprise to me too. I did a True Pacifist (So, the stuff we've seen in the LP so far) and ended it there - didn't have the heart to go back. I was just musing.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:55
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I didn't see anything that merits removing, either.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:56
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demota posted:Edit: I like that Asriel's attacks involves stars, rainbows, and lightning. Like, to him, those are the coolest things because they don't exist underground. Valgaav posted:This is an interesting running theme throughout the game, where you never fight things at their full power - you never get to see what they're really capable of... Papyrus is too much of a softie to do anything. Muffet and a lot of core enemies, the ones explicitly hired to kill Frisk, don't seem to be holding back much, though. Valgaav posted:...What? If it's alt route talk, it's a surprise to me too.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:59
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Fish Noise posted:Considering his "totally normal attack" and that we never got to see his actual special attack, I'm gonna go ahead and assume Papyrus going all out is terrifying. I'm fairly sure that Undyne mentions at some point that Papyrus is really strong, he's just too completely and utterly good at heart to feel even remotely like harming somebody.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:00
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ProfessorProf posted:So I've been trying to figure out what a lot of the music samples from. My best guesses: Dogsong uses the bark sound from the Mario Paint composer, possibly other sounds as well. Confession I want to say uses Mother 3? It sounds awfully like it from the piano samples. There's a few more that use various 16bit and 8bit samples, like Showtime and Metal Crusher(gently caress yeah 2A03), but I can't really make out any specific game soundfonts. EDIT: Fixed Youtube link because of related videos, sorry! Paperio fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 22:01
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TheMcD posted:I'm fairly sure that Undyne mentions at some point that Papyrus is really strong, he's just too completely and utterly good at heart to feel even remotely like harming somebody. God, imagine those two doing a team attack. McDragon posted:Sans and Papyrus should have a huge cousin called Impact. And one called Wingdings who nobody can understand. 
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Oct 26, 2015 22:12
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Fish Noise posted:"actually really freaking tough" I think her exact words. What, Undyne turns the player green while Papyrus sends out unavoidable bones? ...That'd be completely unfair, but it'd be neat.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:16
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McDragon posted:And one called Wingdings who nobody can understand.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:27
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Ephraim225 posted:What, Undyne turns the player green while Papyrus sends out unavoidable bones? Well, you get that four-directional shield thing when you're Green, at least.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:27
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The other option is Papyrus turns you blue, and now you have to jump to avoid spears.  (My one Undertale Regret: Undyne's attacks did not sync up DDR-style with her battle theme.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:30
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Ephraim225 posted:What, Undyne turns the player green while Papyrus sends out unavoidable bones? Alternatively, being allowed to move, but it's a combination of Undyne's spear volley and Papyrus' blue attack.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:31
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Ephraim225 posted:What, Undyne turns the player green while Papyrus sends out unavoidable bones? Undyne turns the player green, Papyrus sends out a load of blue bones... Undyne smacks him for being a doofus.
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Oct 26, 2015 22:35
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All of the bosses combine their attacks at the same time to kill you, but it just ends up being Bit Trip Runner 3
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Oct 26, 2015 22:35
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Captain Bravo posted:Undyne turns the player green, Papyrus sends out a load of blue bones... Undyne smacks him for being a doofus. 
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Oct 26, 2015 22:39
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Valgaav posted:Ahahaha oh boy. Toby actually gets frustrated at ZUN and Touhou because they share a musical aesthetic, so his music keeps coming out like Touhou music. It's not intentional, and he actually made a tumblr post about how easy it is to make 'touhou-sounding' music with his usual soundfont. This is funnier than it has any right to be, especially his commentary. I don't know if it's a testament to how good of a composer he is or how formulaic the usual Touhou game is, but it's amazing that something he slapped together in five seconds sounds like it could have come from one of those games.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:01
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ProfessorProf posted:So I've been trying to figure out what a lot of the music samples from. My best guesses: Dating Start is basically Turnabout Sisters so that's probably the right guess. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the reactions to the genocide run. This is one of the few games where content is so different but still essentially equal for both sides of the coin.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:05
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Valgaav posted:Ahahaha oh boy. Toby actually gets frustrated at ZUN and Touhou because they share a musical aesthetic, so his music keeps coming out like Touhou music. It's not intentional, and he actually made a tumblr post about how easy it is to make 'touhou-sounding' music with his usual soundfont. There are no trumpets here.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:09
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That was a great run, Prof. As to the Fallen Human/Prof being, at the very least, antisocial, and at worst sociopathic, it makes a lot of sense considering what we know. I guess the real question is whether he came to love his new Monster Family and wanted them to be free, no matter the cost or was manipulating Asriel to try and fulfill some misguided need to strike back at humans. Also, its subtle, but if you go back through the updates you will notice that Sans ALWAYS goes out through the wrong/opposite direction of where he claims to be going. Dude has a teleport spell somewhere. e: One theory I've indeed seen claims that Napstablook was all that saved Frisk from dying, since he was the only (known) soul that didn't become part of ASRIEL.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:14
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PassingPie posted:This is funnier than it has any right to be, especially his commentary. I don't know if it's a testament to how good of a composer he is or how formulaic the usual Touhou game is, but it's amazing that something he slapped together in five seconds sounds like it could have come from one of those games. I know basically nothing about Touhou except bullet hell girls with funny hats and apparently Cirno is cool (  ) But I still thought that was a fun listen.
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Oct 26, 2015 23:15
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S-since... if we did... How would I ever know?
Well, I'll keep my tentacles out for you! Y'hear!
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Oct 26, 2015 23:18
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Ciaphas posted:What is it with that onion anyway. It's an Undyne chase fakeout. You walk upward toward the obviously long bridge, and a HUGE tentacle pops out. Turns out, it's just OnyanSan, who is here to say hi and chat. 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:21
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Conot posted:One theory I've indeed seen claims that Napstablook was all that saved Frisk from dying, since he was the only (known) soul that didn't become part of ASRIEL. 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:22
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So, Prof, if you have two playthroughs to go... ...oh, dear. It can only get worse from here, can't it? 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:31
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Hah, his "hands" are tears that hes controlling. Pangurban posted:So, Prof, if you have two playthroughs to go... Without getting spoilery: 
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Oct 26, 2015 23:38
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Pangurban posted:So, Prof, if you have two playthroughs to go... No, you fool! The spoiler posts! THEY COME
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Oct 26, 2015 23:38
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Pangurban posted:So, Prof, if you have two playthroughs to go... Allow me to answer your question with a question: What better could it possibly get?
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Oct 26, 2015 23:41
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death .cab for qt posted:It's an Undyne chase fakeout. You walk upward toward the obviously long bridge, and a HUGE tentacle pops out. Turns out, it's just OnyanSan, who is here to say hi and chat.
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Rangpur posted:Weren't a couple of the NPCs/enemies designed by Kickstarter backers? Or do I have that confused with some other game? Whenever I ran into something like Onion-san, I assumed that's what I was looking at. Yes. Most of them are brought up in the Credits. Muffet, surprisingly, is also one.
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Rangpur posted:Weren't a couple of the NPCs/enemies designed by Kickstarter backers? Or do I have that confused with some other game? Whenever I ran into something like Onion-san, I assumed that's what I was looking at.
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Conot posted:Without getting spoilery: Yes! I don't really know what to expect, but I take pleasure in this thread's suffering. Let this 'genocide run' commence! 
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