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A shotgun gives you two choices: Shoot a guy, or don't shoot a guy. There's no option for sub-lethal escalation of force. There is value to that.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:A shotgun gives you two choices: Shoot a guy, or don't shoot a guy. There's no option for sub-lethal escalation of force. There is value to that. Shoot the gun into the air?
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Oct 27, 2015 01:33
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Socket bayonets are a thing?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:A shotgun gives you two choices: Shoot a guy, or don't shoot a guy. There's no option for sub-lethal escalation of force. There is value to that. Shotguns are a bad example because of beanbag shells, but I understand your point.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:47
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Kaal posted:Shotguns are a bad example because of beanbag shells, but I understand your point. Shotguns are a great example because right now my first shell is buck and I really want a beanbag. Oh, now I have a beanbag but I am pretty sure that the situation is escalating and calling for live ammunition. Oh, now I have three rounds left in the mag and man there are a lot of irritable guys with knives nearby.
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Oct 27, 2015 01:52
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Shotguns are a great example because right now my first shell is buck and I really want a beanbag. Oh, now I have a beanbag but I am pretty sure that the situation is escalating and calling for live ammunition. Oh, now I have three rounds left in the mag and man there are a lot of irritable guys with knives nearby. use the gunboat's gun and machine gun
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Oct 27, 2015 02:07
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Shotguns are a great example because right now my first shell is buck and I really want a beanbag. Oh, now I have a beanbag but I am pretty sure that the situation is escalating and calling for live ammunition. Oh, now I have three rounds left in the mag and man there are a lot of irritable guys with knives nearby. Fortunately Uncle Sam in his wisdom equipped your ship with more than one sailor. Though I suppose back in 1894 it would be John Bull being equipped with a lever-action Remington and birdshot. Whatever, 19th century militaries didn't have much use for less-lethal methods in the first place. Kaal fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 02:11
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:A shotgun gives you two choices: Shoot a guy, or don't shoot a guy. There's no option for sub-lethal escalation of force. There is value to that. you can always hit him upside the head with the butt of it
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Oct 27, 2015 02:12
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Kaal posted:Fortunately Uncle Sam in his wisdom equipped your ship with more than one sailor. An aviso had a crew of about 120-160 and it's not like there were more guys right over the hill. I agree that the pike was certainly not an optimal solution for all situations, but it was nice to have around for some specific situations, so it makes sense that people spent time effort and a marginal amount of money on them in the late colonial era. Keep in mind this is the point in time when rifles were issued with magazine cutoffs to prevent the troops from wasting ammunition. Agean90 posted:you can always hit him upside the head with the butt of it Hitting a guy with a pike is even better!
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Oct 27, 2015 02:33
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the only thing a pike can do is stab a dude, wheres as a shotgun with a bayonet can do all that and carry a flashlight your move 
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Oct 27, 2015 02:53
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you could probably find a way to put a flashlight on a pike if you really wanted to
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Oct 27, 2015 02:59
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Koramei posted:you could probably find a way to put a flashlight on a pike if you really wanted to
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Oct 27, 2015 03:02
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Pike with rail system for laser sight and optics. You have to be accurate with the things. I mean a laser sight would actually sort of make sense and tell you where exactly you're aiming your pike in a confused battle.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:21
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HEY GAL posted:yeah you duct tape it to the thing, it's like you're not even trying If we're going to cheat and use duct tape you can just tape the pike to the shotgun that way you stab someone everytime you pump another round in!
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Oct 27, 2015 03:27
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ArchangeI posted:Pike with rail system for laser sight and optics. You have to be accurate with the things. Now imagine a pike formation in which everyone has one. 
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Oct 27, 2015 03:28
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my dad posted:Now imagine a pike formation in which everyone has one. You can always use those laser pointers with a filter that projects a rude image.
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Oct 27, 2015 03:37
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Every once in a while GiP's picture thread delivers.Booblord Zagats posted:
EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Does anybody smell almonds? #GETSOMME
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Ensign Expendable posted:I got in poo poo with the Russian government for writing how old tanks were built, sounds pretty dangerous to me. Forgive me if you've already answered, but can you elaborate on this? Totally cool if not but I have to admit this left me curious.
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Oct 27, 2015 04:05
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a modern pike for a modern war which reminds me, some of the pictures are here http://www.slagomgrolle.nl 1,400 reenactors, and we drilled all together twice. the commands went out in english and german and then the lower officers picked them up in the language each group spoke, so after each one you'd get a delayed chorus in italian, spanish, french, czech, polish, dutch, etc. so i have now stood in the middle of a ~thousand strong battalion of pike and shot edit: i'm not sure if the choice of main languages was because everyone thought that the dutch probably knew english, or if they thought that the english didn't know anything else HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 04:11
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HEY GAL posted:a modern pike for a modern war Given how cosmopolitan your guys are, wouldn't that be about how it went down in reality too?
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ArchangeI posted:Given how cosmopolitan your guys are, wouldn't that be about how it went down in reality too?
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not my real name posted:Forgive me if you've already answered, but can you elaborate on this? Totally cool if not but I have to admit this left me curious. They took issue with some stuff I wrote in my blog, but since neither I nor my content was within Russian jurisdiction, it didn't really amount to much.
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Oct 27, 2015 04:21
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Ensign Expendable posted:They took issue with some stuff I wrote in my blog, but since neither I nor my content was within Russian jurisdiction, it didn't really amount to much. It's okay, you can tell us that you made a blog post about which Russian tank is best for a gay orgy. It's the T-62 isn't it. So roomy.
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Oct 27, 2015 04:25
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ArchangeI posted:It's okay, you can tell us that you made a blog post about which Russian tank is best for a gay orgy. It's the IS-2 I think.  Look at that turret, there's standing room there.
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Oct 27, 2015 04:27
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Slavvy posted:It's the IS-2 I think. I want to say that's the KV-2 unless there was a secret IS-2 with that fuckoff howitzer, but you aren't too far off since the IS line is what became of the KV line once Mr. Voroshilov fell out of favor and everyone realized tanks worked best when capable of outrunning infantry.
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Slavvy posted:It's the KV-2 I think. Off to the mines with you
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Koramei posted:you could probably find a way to put a flashlight on a pike if you really wanted to The only thing I know for certain is that someone at some point used it to pantomime a cock
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FAUXTON posted:I want to say that's the KV-2 unless there was a secret IS-2 with that fuckoff howitzer, but you aren't too far off since the IS line is what became of the KV line once Mr. Voroshilov fell out of favor and everyone realized tanks worked best when capable of outrunning infantry. You're in luck!  It's a movie prop As for best orgy tank, I have documental evidence of 16 men in an M3 Lee working the cannons if you know what I mean.
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Frostwerks posted:The only thing I know for certain is that someone at some point used it to pantomime a cock Honestly I strongly suspect this, when the first piece of sharpened flint was attached to the first whittled stick at the dawn of man, the 3rd or 4th person to get their hand on it did such a thing.
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Well, as long as we're talking about crazy British stuff. Here's what happened when a bored aristocrat got his friends to dress in blackface to help him pretend to be the emperor of Abyssinia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnought_hoax Virginia Woolf posted:In those days the young officers had a gay time. They were always up to some lark; and one of their chief occupations it seemed was to play jokes on each other. There were a great many rivalries and intrigues in the navy. The officers like scoring off each other. And the officers of the Hawke and the Dreadnought had a feud. ... And Cole's friend who was on the Hawke had come to Cole, and said to him, 'You're a great hand at hoaxing people; couldn't you do something to pull the leg of the Dreadnought?  quote:This involved Cole and five friends—writer Virginia Stephen (later Virginia Woolf), her brother Adrian Stephen, Guy Ridley, Anthony Buxton and artist Duncan Grant—who had themselves disguised by the theatrical costumier Willy Clarkson[5] with skin darkeners and turbans to resemble members of the Abyssinian royal family. The main limitation of the disguises was that the "royals" could not eat anything or their make-up would be ruined. Adrian Stephen took the role of "interpreter". quote:....In Weymouth, the navy welcomed the princes with an honour guard. An Abyssinian flag was not found, so the navy proceeded to use that of Zanzibar and to play Zanzibar's national anthem. quote:During the visit to Dreadnought, the visitors had repeatedly shown amazement or appreciation by exclaiming "Bunga Bunga!". In 1915 during the First World War, HMS Dreadnought rammed and sank a German submarine—the only battleship ever to do so. Among the telegrams of congratulation was one that read "BUNGA BUNGA" Also, Virginia Woolf is the person on the far left of both photo's. 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I agree that the pike was certainly not an optimal solution for all situations, but it was nice to have around for some specific situations, so it makes sense that people spent time effort and a marginal amount of money on them in the late colonial era. it probably didn't require that much time/effort considering that a boat hook is basically a half-pike with a different head so every ship would have a lot of dudes with at least a basic familiarity with polearm handling.
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Oct 27, 2015 05:29
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It's always funny when people forget that Ethiopians are Christians and don't use prayer mats.
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Phobophilia posted:It's always funny when people forget that Ethiopians are Christians and don't use prayer mats. Ethiopians are Christian as all hell, no less. Like, old-school eschatological Christians from before the Roman Empire went Christian. You don't get more Christian than that.
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Phobophilia posted:It's always funny when people forget that Ethiopians are Christians and don't use prayer mats. What's really funny is when Coptic christians nearly get lynched protesting the ground zero islamic centre because they are brown and from egypt.
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Ensign Expendable posted:They took issue with some stuff I wrote in my blog, but since neither I nor my content was within Russian jurisdiction, it didn't really amount to much. Enjoy your cup of Polonium tea.
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lots of cav out there http://live.slagomgrolle.nl/fotos-slag-om-grolle-25-oktober-2015/ the guys in buff coats with the bright blue sashes caracoled at us on saturday: the first one in line tried to fire at me and failed, the second one in line tried to fire at me and failed, and then the third one's pistol went off eat poo poo, cav havers
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HEY GAL posted:lots of cav out there Have your guys discovered volley fire yet, or do they just shoot at random?
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JcDent posted:Have your guys discovered volley fire yet, or do they just shoot at random? the "salvee," "salva" or "salvo" is the new hotness, but I wonder if its impact is more psychological than physical. more photos http://live.slagomgrolle.nl/fotos-slag-om-grolle-24-oktober-2015/ these dudes owned 
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Firing all at once in a mass volley/salvo/whatever is absolutely psychological, which is why it's so much more effective than everybody just taking potshots.
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Endman posted:Firing all at once in a mass volley/salvo/whatever is absolutely psychological, which is why it's so much more effective than everybody just taking potshots. Before smokeless powder it is significantly more accurate than letting guys do their own thing.
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